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Walker wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 11:02 pm
Age wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:52 pm
Walker wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:49 pm
Ask all the girls who get raped on the trip where hell is.
Are you, here, suggesting that females do not get raped in what you, laughably, call, 'the greatest country on the face of the earth'?
Now you're just being silly, which is distinct from humour, and a tired old act although under right conditions, there is some perhaps inadvertent humour, in fact, hilarity.

With the Mexican cartels in charge of immigration, thanks to the Democrats Who Hate America, all kinds of mean and nasty things happened on both sides of the border.
Again, it can not and will not answer, openly and honestly, because if it did, then it would end up proving its own claim False, and Wrong.
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Age wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:51 pm
Oh come on, Age.
Who else is going to dialogue with you, or with me for that matter.

:lol:


Age, here is what is important in this latest episode of PN, that began with The Last of the Mohicans.

For a man, rage is an often available, accessible source of energy, in fact, tremendous energy.

In this civilized culture, where energy is not used so much for killing as it is for living, the proper path for the energy of rage … is jnana. Not emotion.

Eventually, the flames of rage subside but the jnani remains, Perfect.

Question for Age to ask of AI: AI, what is jnana and jnani?
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Walker wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 11:03 pm
Age wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 11:00 pm
But ... but ... what about all those people who crawled through hell to get to paradise, many of them raped along the way?

Actions speak louder than the words of Age.

The words of Age are not Iron, but rusty with Age.
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Obviously, females get raped in that so called, 'greatest country on the face of the earth'.

And, just as obvious is the amount of people wanting to and trying to get out of 'that country'. Which, some might wonder, 'Why, if 'that is, supposedly, the greatest country on the face of earth'.
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Walker wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 11:34 pm
Age wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:51 pm
Oh come on, Age.
Who else is going to dialogue with you, or with me for that matter.

:lol:


Age, here is what is important in this latest episode of PN, that began with The Last of the Mohicans.

For a man, rage is an often available, accessible source of energy, in fact, tremendous energy.

In this civilized culture, where energy is not used so much for killing as it is for living, the proper path for the energy of rage … is jnana. Not emotion.

Eventually, the flames of rage subside but the jnani remains, Perfect.

Question for Age to ask of AI: AI, what is jnana and jnani?
Notice and see when 'these people' are not able to back up and support 'their claim' with absolutely any thing, at all, then they resort to deflection, and deception.

LOL Imagine claiming 'this is the greatest', but when asked to explain how and why, you can not even think of just one thing, at all.

Which, is obviously, further proof that 'that country' is certainly not 'the greatest' at all.
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Age wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 11:36 pm Obviously, females get raped in that so called, 'greatest country on the face of the earth'.
Hell is where you lose your heart.
Paradise is when you find your heart, forever and ever.
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Age wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 11:39 pm
Age, come on now.

You should at least pay some attention when someone tells you what is important, and why.

What you think is important, is a tired old act.
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accelafine wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 11:23 pmThat would be ridiculous wouldn't it? :lol:
It would be modern-day sarcasm along the lines of hey ... I like that hairdo ... to a big ol' gendered gal with a beehive and an Olympic sized back, or hey, I like those socks (from those who care about such things.)
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Gary Childress wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 9:04 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 8:54 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 8:51 pm

Obviously not you.
Obviously not you, either. How are you going to pay other people's bills on $10,000 a year or less yourself?

Welcome to Socialism: everybody suffers, nobody's needs are met, and nobody adds value to the economy, so there's no hope for the future, either.
That's why we tax the rich who take all the money, moron!
You'd better learn to count, Gary. If Socialism were instituted $10,000 is all you'd have! :shock: :shock: :shock:

There's no more to tax. It's all gone. Nobody is rich from then on. Or ever again.
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There would be some way to blame Trump, because that is what's important for the Left.

(Couldn't resist)
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accelafine wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 11:23 pm It's ONLY Americans who ever make that claim.
Oh. So no "rule Britannia" and "God save the king," "I Vow to Thee, My Country," and "Jerusalem" for you, I guess. :?
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Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:45 am
accelafine wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 11:23 pm It's ONLY Americans who ever make that claim.
Oh. So no "rule Britannia" and "God save the king," "I Vow to Thee, My Country," and "Jerusalem" for you, I guess. :?
What does any of that have to do with the price of haddock?
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accelafine wrote: Tue Nov 18, 2025 3:19 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:45 am
accelafine wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 11:23 pm It's ONLY Americans who ever make that claim.
Oh. So no "rule Britannia" and "God save the king," "I Vow to Thee, My Country," and "Jerusalem" for you, I guess. :?
What does any of that have to do with the price of haddock?
The price of haddock is the same, whether in US dollars or British pounds.

The English, whom I know very well indeed, are less ostentatious than the Americans, but every bit as prone to nationalism, not less xenophobic, and in their "stiff upper lip" way, every bit as convinced of the superiority of English culture. Hence, their fondness for shows of state, for the Union Jack or the Cross of St. George, and their nostalgia about the days of the British Empire.

They just don't say it the way the Americans do. However, even their sense of superiority to the Americans is born of the same grudgy nationalism that England has always had.

Anybody who knows the English knows that, at least. And I like the English...and participate in their history myself.

However, this I will say for the Americans: they're much more open-hearted, ingenuous, unselfish and enthusiastic about other people's success than the Brits are. The English resent anybody who tries to improve his station in life, or who fails to hold his place. In America, if you move up in life, the Americans' attitude is, "Yay for you, pal: go for it." The English attitude is, "He's a fellow who doesn't know his place."

America may be brash, but England is still heirarchical and snobby. America's not. So that's a point for the Americans.
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Walker wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 11:39 pm
Age wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 11:36 pm Obviously, females get raped in that so called, 'greatest country on the face of the earth'.
Hell is where you lose your heart.
Paradise is when you find your heart, forever and ever.
But, finding out that the thing that is called "your" 'heart', pumps blood, has absolutely nothing at all to do with 'your claim'.

you, obviously, have absolutely nothing, here, and all 'we' have, really, learned, here, is you refusing to acknowledge the irrefutable Truth, and Fact, that females are getting raped in that 'one little insignificant country'.
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Walker wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 11:46 pm
Age wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 11:39 pm
Age, come on now.

You should at least pay some attention when someone tells you what is important, and why.

What you think is important, is a tired old act.
you are the 'only one' telling 'others' only what you think and believe is important. However, there is absolutely no one, here, who thinks nor believes what you obviously delusionally do.

LOL you could not even say one important thing, here.

What you wish for is not important.

The only 'act', here, is you 'acting' like the country you are in is, LOL, great. LOL you could not even provide just one thing that could back up and support such an obvious ridiculous belief.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 18, 2025 12:07 am
Gary Childress wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 9:04 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 8:54 pm
Obviously not you, either. How are you going to pay other people's bills on $10,000 a year or less yourself?

Welcome to Socialism: everybody suffers, nobody's needs are met, and nobody adds value to the economy, so there's no hope for the future, either.
That's why we tax the rich who take all the money, moron!
You'd better learn to count, Gary. If Socialism were instituted $10,000 is all you'd have! :shock: :shock: :shock:
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'This one' is like "veritas aequitas", in that they pick a figure, 'out of the air', as some call it, and then, laughably, claim that 'that figure' is the one and only true and right figure.
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 18, 2025 12:07 am There's no more to tax. It's all gone. Nobody is rich from then on. Or ever again.
One could not get any more closed and stupid. But, this is 'the result' of belief, itself.

Imagine believing that the figure that you just dreamed up and imagined is the one and only figure. Which is in one's own one and only dreamed up and imagined situation, as well.

'This one' just keeps on 'trying' and 'trying' to deflect away from the Fact that it, actually, believes, absolutely, that taxed money used to help the so-called 'less fortunate' is 'stealing'. But, taxed money used to buy more and more weapons, to protect "itself", is, laughably, 'not stealing'.

The one known as "immanuel can" could not come across any more greedy, nor any more selfish, here.
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