Is it "stealing" for the government to tax people for social services?

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Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 8:56 pm
promethean75 wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 8:28 pm Socialism-from-above, the shit the Dems impose on the working class, is not what we want. We want the working classes themselves to change their circumstances. Socialism-from-below.
Okay, describe your plan: how does that happen? What are the steps to get there?
I reckon the only way that'll happen (in Ermerica) is if there are major ammendments to the Constitution and I don't see that happenin'. Revolution ain't gonna happen unless the militaries of the world commit to helping the worker's revolution instead of squashing it under the order of the bourgeoisie. I don't see that happenin' neither, mm-hmm.
Right. So now you've said two ways it AIN'T gonna happen. Let's hear about how it IS going to happen.

Because if there's no IS, then it's a vain fantasy, and no more.
LOL 'This' coming from 'the one' who has been continually claiming what does 'not work', but as not produced absolutely any thing that could nor would actually work.

All 'this one' has really 'tried to' do, here, is just say and claim that 'tax payers money' is better spent on what helps in the creation and cause of more wars and of more killings.
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promethean75 wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 7:15 pm Walker's the last of the Mohicans, Mannie. Nobody else is listening anymore. Maybe Dr. Jakobi, but only because his investments are doing well, and he wouldn't want that to change because some german economist gave the proles of the world a dangerous idea.
Awesome scene. A lot of fierce old men see themselves in this last scene of an old, avenging father, all focus and calculating rage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD82Psv64Uw

I heard that the scene was filmed in North Carolina. It looks like the Blue Ridge Parkway, great views and a good, slow ridge road to haul in the cameras to the heights. One of the most scenic roads in the country, from the SW corner of NC not far from the Biltmore Estate, all the way up into Virginia, if anyone is planning a tour of the greatest country on the face of the earth that would be an easy drive, 'specially in the autumn, when the whole world there turns shades of gold. It's the path of the Appalachian Trail, one of the greatest hikes in the world, that parallels the road.

The scene was likely not financed through the government, although they got their taste for allowing it to be created.
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Walker wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:31 pm One of the most scenic roads in the country, from the SW corner of NC all the way up into Virginia, if anyone is planning a tour of the greatest country on the face of the earth that would be easy drive, 'specially in the autumn.
Why is that little place what you call 'the greatest country on the face of the earth', exactly?
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Age wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:35 pm
Walker wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:31 pm One of the most scenic roads in the country, from the SW corner of NC all the way up into Virginia, if anyone is planning a tour of the greatest country on the face of the earth that would be easy drive, 'specially in the autumn.
Why is that little place what you call 'the greatest country on the face of the earth', exactly?
Just ask all the folks who go through hell to get here.
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Walker wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:38 pm
Age wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:35 pm
Walker wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:31 pm One of the most scenic roads in the country, from the SW corner of NC all the way up into Virginia, if anyone is planning a tour of the greatest country on the face of the earth that would be easy drive, 'specially in the autumn.
Why is that little place what you call 'the greatest country on the face of the earth', exactly?
Just ask all the folks who go through hell to get here.
That's not a nice way to describe Mexico.
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accelafine wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:43 pm
Walker wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:38 pm
Age wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:35 pm

Why is that little place what you call 'the greatest country on the face of the earth', exactly?
Just ask all the folks who go through hell to get here.
That's not a nice way to describe Mexico.
Ask all the girls who get raped on the trip where hell is.
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Walker wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:38 pm
Age wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:35 pm
Walker wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:31 pm One of the most scenic roads in the country, from the SW corner of NC all the way up into Virginia, if anyone is planning a tour of the greatest country on the face of the earth that would be easy drive, 'specially in the autumn.
Why is that little place what you call 'the greatest country on the face of the earth', exactly?
Just ask all the folks who go through hell to get here.
So, what 'we' have, here, is another example of one who comes into a philosophy forum and who makes 'a claim', but when asked a clarifying question in regards to its claim, provides absolutely no clarification nor clarity at all.

Imagine believing and claiming some thing like, 'this 'p' is the best in the whole world', but when asked, 'Why is that 'p' the best in the whole world?' you can not even think of one reason.

Which is, obviously, a sure sign that that 'p' is actually not the best in the whole world' at all.

If you can not even think of and present just one reason, only, then you have absolutely nothing at all for 'your claim'.

So, again, I will suggest that people have the actual proof, first, for 'their claims', before they even begin to think about presenting 'any claim' at all.
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Age wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:51 pm
Age, it's a tired old act. No one's buying it.

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Walker wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:49 pm
accelafine wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:43 pm
Walker wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:38 pm
Just ask all the folks who go through hell to get here.
That's not a nice way to describe Mexico.
Ask all the girls who get raped on the trip where hell is.
Are you, here, suggesting that females do not get raped in what you, laughably, call, 'the greatest country on the face of the earth'?
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Walker wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:52 pm
Age wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:51 pm
Age, it's a tired old act. No one's buying it.

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What is, supposedly, a 'tired old act', exactly?

So, what is 'it', exactly, which, supposedly, no one is buying?

What is absolutely obvious is you made a claim, and when questioned over 'your claim' you failed, absolutely, and absolutely obviously, to back it up and support it absolutely any way at all.
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Is there absolutely any one, on the whole world, who claims that could back up and support 'the claim' that 'that country is the greatest country on the face of earth'?

If yes, then please present "your" 'self', here.

Until then 'that claim' that 'that country is the greatest country on the face of earth' will remain absolutely and completely unsubstantiated.
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Walker wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:52 pm
Age wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:51 pm
Age, it's a tired old act. No one's buying it.

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The only act, here, which absolutely no one on the face of the earth is buying is 'the act' that 'that country is the greatest country on the face of earth'. Except, of course, 'you' "walker".

But, because you can not even think of just one thing, which could back up and support your belief and claim, here, you are realizing that even 'you' , 'now', can not 'buy' that False claim of yours.
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Age wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:52 pm
Walker wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:49 pm
accelafine wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:43 pm

That's not a nice way to describe Mexico.
Ask all the girls who get raped on the trip where hell is.
Are you, here, suggesting that females do not get raped in what you, laughably, call, 'the greatest country on the face of the earth'?
Now you're just being silly, which is distinct from humour, and a tired old act although under right conditions, there is some perhaps inadvertent humour, in fact, hilarity.

With the Mexican cartels in charge of immigration, thanks to the Democrats Who Hate America, all kinds of mean and nasty things happened on both sides of the border.
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Age wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 11:00 pm
But ... but ... what about all those people who crawled through hell to get to paradise, many of them raped along the way?

Actions speak louder than the words of Age.

The words of Age are not Iron, but rusty with Age.
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It's ONLY Americans who ever make that claim. I've never heard anyone from anywhere else describe the place they live as 'the greatest country on the face of the earth' (I didn't know other planets had countries :? ).
It's like some man going around telling everyone he meets that he's 'the handsomest man in the world'. That would be ridiculous wouldn't it? People would laugh at him and think he needed medical intervention :lol:
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