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Re: Stock market

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accelafine wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:10 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:58 pm
accelafine wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:45 pm

Ooh, someone's been busy on google and AI :lol: I'm sure you, as a man on a different part of the planet, knows far more about where I live and what happens there than I do, so feel free to give me the benefit of your great male wisdom and mansplanations :D
I go by what's going on, not what bloated 'experts' say when they drival on about GDP and 'growth'. Why does an economy have to be permanently in 'growth mode' anyway? That's just political bullshit-speak. A low unemployment rate does not scream to me 'imploding economy', great depression number 2, devastatiion and mass starvation blah blah blah. It's the same when they rant about mass homelessness. I've never seen one single homeless person ANYWHERE. Now the US really does have mass homelessness. The homeless are everywhere. It's not as if the homeless can just make themselves invisible.
Uh huh. So you are referring to a local house price slump that was accompanied by the obvious recession, and as usual you are trying to convert the issue into an ad hominem assault on me because the facts don't agree with your story and your pride won't let you address that in the way a sane person would.
Talk about projecting. People stopped buying on the same scale because it became cheaper to rent after the interest rate hike, landlords were given all kinds of tax breaks.
When and where, exactly?

Asking 'general questions', while only 'speaking about' very, very particular situations, is never ever going to provide you with 'the answer/s' that you are wanting and looking for, here.
accelafine wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:10 pm It was multi-faceted. 'Recession' is political bullshit-speak. Obviously an 'economy' can't just be permanently growing.
1. It could, but the chance of a permanently growing economy happening is obviously very remote.

2. An economy just not permanently growing is also not automatically a recession. Other things are needed as well.
accelafine wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:10 pm It's more like a wave, with gentle crests and troughs for the most part. Nothing to even comment on.
So, why are you commenting on it, here, for exactly?
accelafine wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:10 pm That's the way it's supposed to be. Very occasionally something happens to disturb that balance--eg the Great Depression. That's not something that can just go unnoticed, and which we need bloated economic 'experts' to tell us is happening. Same with the housing market. It can't just be permanently in a state of frenzied growth. 'Buyers' and 'sellers' markets ebb and flow.
Which probably explains, in of itself, exactly, why it is not considered a 'bad thing', when 'house prices' so-call 'plummet'.

See, what is 'a plummet' to one is not to another, and this is just because absolutely every thing is 'relative', to, 'the observer'.

So, if people already know that so-called 'buyers' and 'sellers' markets 'ebb' and 'flow', then there is nothing really to be talking about nor concerned about, here.
accelafine wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:10 pm If there were really any 'experts' in these things then we would all be rich.
Obviously the 'logic' and 'reasoning', here, is absolutely faulty, once again.

Obviously so-called "experts" would not reveal what they 'know' about getting 'monetary richer' to everyone else, for not every one can become so-called 'rich'. 'Being rich' can and does only exist because 'some are poor'.
accelafine wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:10 pm Their 'predictions' are ALWAYS wrong :lol:
Once again, 'always'.

It is just about always 'one' OR 'the other' with you. There is hardly ever 'any middle ground' with you, as some would say.
accelafine wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:10 pm 'GDP' is more bullshit political-speak. Mass immigration can artificially raise it, hence the keenness of politicians to promote it. What does the term even mean to ordinary people?
I am not sure. Are 'you' an 'ordinary person', "accelafine"?

If yes, then what 'the term' even mean, to 'you', exactly?
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Re: Stock market

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accelafine wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:58 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 11:46 pm Whatever that means, I don't care, I am not the story here...
accelafine wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 11:28 pm Why is it considered such a bad thing when the stock market goes down but not when house prices plummet?
That doesn't happen. You are making up this problem.
Did I say it was a 'problem'? Are there ever world headlines when the housing market plummets? Think about it, genius. When the US stockmarket drops everyone shits their pants.
Again, 'every one ...'.

Are you even able to think not in what is called and referred to as 'black and white thinking'?
accelafine wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:58 am I wouldn't have a clue what the US housing market is doing and don't care.
Okay.

Were you under some sort of illusion that anyone else cared if you had a clue, or not, about what the "united states of america" housing market is doing, or not?

If no, then why are 'you' telling 'us' this?

but, if yes, then why, exactly?
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accelafine wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 3:50 am I don't recall any headlines EVER about US house prices going down.
Did you ever see, or hear, any headlines, from the "united states of america", or anywhere else, during what was called the 'global financial crisis'?

For some there was quite about house prices going down in that one very small and insignificant country. But, why are 'you' even informing 'us' that you do not recall any headlines, at all?
accelafine wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 3:50 am Yet when the stockmarket goes down the whole world starts wetting itself.
Why is the 'whole' world so-called 'wetting itself'?

And, are you not sure that it is only just some of you adult human beings who might be what you call 'wetting' "yourselves". I am pretty sure absolutely any one else, who is not 'monetary motivated', does not care one iota.
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Walker wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 4:33 am Trump waves his magic wand, suspends tariffs while negotiating trade deals, and all that stock market money that vanished, reappears. How ‘bout that.
Straight out most adult human beings 'retirement funds' and straight into the 'accounts' of the already over excessively 'monetary rich'.

And, to find out just 'how much' of that alleged 'vanished money' appears 'back into' the 'retirement funds' of most adult human beings is to be 'seen'.
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Re: Stock market

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FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 6:23 am
accelafine wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 3:50 am I don't recall any headlines EVER about US house prices going down. Yet when the stockmarket goes down the whole world starts wetting itself.
And you therefore assume that means that American house prices must have collapsed at some time without anybody mentioning it?

The last time US house prices fell, it caused the event that defined the next decade, and you were told all about it every day for years.
Again, it all depends on what one is already believing, and presuming, which affects just how much that that one can see, and hear, and if any thing at all.
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