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Iwannaplato
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Re: Theism, Philosophical Realism, P AntiRealism

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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 6:24 am LOL.
There is no way with your ignorance you will ever win over any of my argument even with the help of AI where get rely on strawman and bias prompt.
So far, there is not once you have won over any of the contentious philosophical issues. If so, where?
It's telling that you think in terms of winning.

Further you conflate your utter inability to acknowledge any but the most minor mistakes or contradictions or fallacies in your posts with other people not have made solid arguments.
Here is where ChatGpt admit yours is a strawman:
I have highlighted this before, but you did not get it due to intellectual blindness.
What you requoted, I placed in your Muhammad device - Chatgpt - I challenged its position given Kants epistemology - we cannot know anything about noumena, which includes other minds - and his assumption that all minds are alike. The AI gave the response I posted.

Yes, my prompt included pointing something out the AI, your deity. The AI acknowledged my point.

If you want to appeal the authority of AIs you don't get to cherry pick and ignore what you don't like.
The critique, as stated, does seem to build a strawman by assuming Kant required a kind of unverifiable noumenal proof of intersubjectivity.
In reality, Kant viewed the structure of intersubjectivity as necessary to support empirical, shared knowledge. He would likely consider this assumption not an epistemic vulnerability, but a practically valid foundation, bolstered by empirical science.
But this is clearly false. It CANNOT be bolstered by empirical science because noumena are not empirical. Other minds are not empirical. We cannot know the structures of other minds, according to Kant, just as we cannot know anything about anything except phenomena. This is basic Kant stuff.

The AI will give you what you want, and actually make mistakes and gloss over contraditions.
It will do the same for others.

I'm happy to not use Chatgpt, but you depend on it and it is obvious to everyone here but you why you depend on Chatgpt.


The term 'boundary marker' is significant and critical with reference to the 'noumenal'.
yeah, don't explain why, ya lazy ass AI addicted tool.
To avoid further embarrassment, I suggest you do a thorough reading and research into Kantianism [at least to understand not necessarily agree].
To avoid further embarrassment on your part:
1) actually take a course in philosophy with a professor so that you can get feedback from someone you can't simply insult and dismiss
2) learn how to interact with the arguments other people present
3) avoid your ever increasing dependence on AI, since this will lead to atrophy of your already problematic criticial thinking skills.

It will not be a waste of time because Kant is one of the greatest philosopher of all times, thus his stuff of the highest finesse is credible even if you do not agree with them.
I agree that Kant is useful, but this posturing where you tell other people to study Kant more is just another sign that you really don't understand how to interact with people or texts or ideas.
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Re: Theism, Philosophical Realism, P AntiRealism

Post by Veritas Aequitas »

Iwannaplato wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:46 am
It will not be a waste of time because Kant is one of the greatest philosopher of all times, thus his stuff of the highest finesse is credible even if you do not agree with them.
I agree that Kant is useful, but this posturing where you tell other people to study Kant more is just another sign that you really don't understand how to interact with people or texts or ideas.
In this hostile environment full of poison arrows there is no room for me to be considerate, so, the tit-for-tat.

Before I ventured into mastering Kantianism [read Russell, Schoppenhauer, and other critiques of Kant] I was just like you simply posturing views about Kant out of ignorance. I was bashed left and right by those who were very familiar with Kant.

I happened to chance upon more details of Kant and found his philosophy resonated with Buddhism [my forte then] so I dug into it zealously, persisted through the grind [like climbing Mt. Everest of philosophy] and have never stopped since then. It had paid very good dividends continually so far. This is why I always recommend to others to do the same.
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