Free will, freedom from what?

[Skepdick]

Apparently, the medical forum can help with this.

But what about freedom from medicine?

[Fairy]

Yeah. I am.

If that's true, then why would you need to ask a question in the first place?

Because it's a question for you. And you are not me.

The sense of 'you' and 'me' is an illusion. It's a secondary reality upon what's already being one without a second. Questions can only arise within the dream of artificial separation, when there is a sense of 'me' and 'you' ...But this is a phenomena of the one love action dreaming difference where there is none. In other words, you can only ask questions to yourself, to the imagined character who lives inside your mind that you then project externally as another separate from you.

[Immanuel Can]

If that's true, then why would you need to ask a question in the first place?

Because it's a question for you. And you are not me.

The sense of 'you' and 'me' is an illusion.

Hmmm...nope. I'm pretty clear about that.

[Fairy]

"Even the wet is the dry." "Even the short is the tall." "Even the dead is the alive." "Even the sensible is the nonsensical."

Ok then, lets get back to talking about eternal life for you.

Mine's settled. I was only concerned about yours.

So if you are living an eternal life. So am I ...because I am a creation of you there. No need to be concerned about an imagined other.

[Fairy]

Because it's a question for you. And you are not me.

The sense of 'you' and 'me' is an illusion.

Hmmm...nope. I'm pretty clear about that.

Hmm, yes, I'm pretty clear about this.

[Fairy]

"Even the wet is the dry." "Even the short is the tall." "Even the dead is the alive." "Even the sensible is the nonsensical."

Ok then, lets get back to talking about eternal life for you.

Mine's settled. I was only concerned about yours.

Not settled if it's only an if. It's an idea only, and what is an idea, I've no idea, have you?

[Immanuel Can]

Ok then, lets get back to talking about eternal life for you.

Mine's settled. I was only concerned about yours.

So if you are living an eternal life. So am I...

Well, we'll see, I guess.

[Fairy]

Mine's settled. I was only concerned about yours.

So if you are living an eternal life. So am I...

Well, we'll see, I guess.

Only if you know you exist. But since you are already settled on life eternal existing for you, you already know it to be the case, so no need to see for yourself or others, for others will have settled too, because others only exist inside your head, as your own creation. By announcing you are not me implies other, and that other is your own creation assumed to be separate from you. But how can a thought of other be separate from the one thinking that thought? namely you.

[Janoah]

Apparently, the medical forum can help with this.

But what about freedom from medicine?

Let's not talk about sad things.

[Immanuel Can]

So if you are living an eternal life. So am I...

Well, we'll see, I guess.

Only if you know you exist.

Okay, well...have a nice day.

[Fairy]

Well, we'll see, I guess.

Only if you know you exist.

Okay, well...have a nice day.

Thanks, I will try to have a nice eternity, one day at a time. It's not always nice though, but heck, eternity is what you, me, I, them, us, make it I guess.

[Fairy]

Strictly speaking, it's not a "measurement" at all. Just as ∏ (pi) isn't a "measurement," neither is eternity. "Measuring" is always finite. ∏ and eternity are infinite and unspecifiable. Moreover, eternity is not "time," which is also finite. It's better described as a "relation beyond time."

Ok forget about measurements or quantifiables.

When you talk about ''eternity'' it's as though you have some knowledge of what 'eternity' means...you seem to think 'eternity' can be someone's actual life lived, as though you know it's real and true, as you yourself have claimed to be the case.

Do you understand that to make such a claim that 'eternity' is a life lived by a 'someone'... you then have to make sense of why is it that there are people dying and only living finite lives?

Why don't you ever explain what you mean by 'eternal life for a someone' ? for example: If you know you are alive, surely you would also know you are going to one day not be alive...right? ..and that knowing means a finite life, ok?

My theory is that if 'eternity for a someone' is actually a thing, then eternity must already be this immediate NOW ..because now is all that can be known to exist...isn't that just obvious? because the past and present do not exist now do they? past is known to be what's gone and future is known to be what hasn't happened...and NOW is immediate isn't it, it's all that's really happening, now is this full on aliveness already present herenow, now here. And not in some past or future right?

Make it make sense IC ... If you are going to talk about eternal life for a 'someone' then make it make sense. Don't just say it as though you know what you are talking about, explain what you are saying so that it makes sense, and is heard as rational logical thought.

[Immanuel Can]

When you talk about ''eternity'' it's as though you have some knowledge of what 'eternity' means...

And when you talk about it, you seem to think you have no idea what it is, or what "you" and "me" mean, or that reality itself exists. So I guess we're doomed to perplex each other.

[Walker]

There is no freedom from the regularity of nature, everything that happens obeys the regularity of nature, including human behavior, so what is freedom from?

It should be noted that "everything is predetermined" is also absurd.
For actual, simultaneous infinity is an absurdity, in light of the theory of relativity, it is clear that simultaneity itself is relative.

It’s much simpler than that.

The freedom from, is freedom from attachment. This is because sooner or later you’re going to lose everything anyway, no matter what bargains you make, and this perpetual awareness generates the freedom perspective from within.

Everyone has attachments, even to delusions. To experience them fully without attachment requires a perpetual sense of knowing the transitory from the what doesn't change, which is why a non-immortal human birth is advantageous. The awareness of one's own mortality is a constant reminder for folks without Cling-Ons.

[Fairy]

When you talk about ''eternity'' it's as though you have some knowledge of what 'eternity' means...

And when you talk about it, you seem to think you have no idea what it is, or what "you" and "me" mean, or that reality itself exists. So I guess we're doomed to perplex each other.

Ok then, so be it, your claim eternity can be a life lived by a 'someone' is what it is for you, it is true for you, and good for you.

Have a great life living your eternal life. I genuinely wish all the best to you, from me here in finite life or should I close the gap between the in and finite word and write infinite life.