The Existential Crisis

[Atla]

And you didn't volunteer?

It's cute that you don't see yourself as a test subject.

Lol no one here can read my actual personality.

I would NOT be so sure of this.

I KNOW of some who can read your type of personality very well.

No, you don't.

[Age]

There is ONLY One actual Truth but there is at least as many perceived truths as there are old enough perceiving human beings

I think one actual truth is that everything is in a constant state of motion as nothing is ever the same at any two points in space or time

Take out the words 'space' and 'time' and I agree with you here. I would also love to see an argument against constant-change. Until one is given, then I would say ALL agree that 'Everything is in constant-change'.

This is not the only actual truth I know as another is that no two perspectives are ever exactly the same so there is more than one truth

But if there is an actual Truth, then it would be One Truth, which ALL could agree with, and, if more than two are agreeing on the exact same thing, then there are more than two perspectives which are the EXACTLY same perspective. Therefore, there ARE two perspectives, from at least two different people, which are EXACTLY the SAME. So, there can be two perspectives, which are EXACTLY the SAME.

But from your perspective what is the one actual truth and how do you know there is only one ?

One actual Truth IS there are many actual Truths, which ALL could agree with. How many of them there are is NOT up to 'me' to decide, but obviously up to EVERY one to decide.

I think you may have misinterpreted or misconstrued my, There is ONLY One actual Truth, ....', statement. I did NOT mean that there is One Truth ONLY, but rather there can NOT logically be many different truths on the one same issue. Therefore, there is ONLY One actual Truth in regards to each one of many separate and different issues.

How I KNOW this is because whenever there is some 'thing', which ALL are in agreement upon, and accept, then that is 'what' VERIFIES this One actual Truth, for me.

And also could all of the perceived truths not simply be approximations of the one actual truth ?

Yes they all could be just 'approximations' of the One actual Truth. But, as long as we KNOW there is One actual Truth, then the rest are just that 'approximations', or, in other words, just individual's views and perspectives.

[Age]

You supposedly will not read this from a "mentally ill fucktard" but you read all of the other posts of the "mentally ill fucktard" and which you have spend some time communicating with.
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Keep it short retard

Do NOT ever tell me 'what to do', and think or expect that I am going to do it. I, purposely, wrote a longer reply than I would have, last time, solely because you told me to; "Keep it short", last time.

Also, if you had any actual insight, then you would realize that the MORE I give 'you', then the MORE 'you' have to do your, so called, "psychologically testing", me on.

And, Some find it Truly amazing that you will repeat and quote some of what I say, AND respond to that, although you made the claim that you will NOT read "the blathering from a "mentally ill fucktard", but anyway as clearly evidenced you will quote some of what I write and respond to it, but, as soon as when I write things asking you to clarify what you actually mean, provide evidence for what you say, and/or back up and support your claims with at least SOME thing, you leave ALL OF THAT out, and just make the absurd claim that you will not read what I write.

To be able to SEE straight through 'you' is like looking through crystal CLEAR air. 'You' are as transparent as empty space IS.

[Age]

Is this REALLY what the purpose of this 'philosophy' forum is?
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Yes. It's a cesspool of insanity, all the retards that ended up being banned from other sites ended up here.

And you KNOW this how?

Through experience?

Also, how has your response here got anything at all to do with your claim that "The main purpose of this "philosophy" "forum" is to, so call, "psychologically test" the retards that ended up here."?

1. I asked you; 'Is this REALLY what the purpose of this 'philosophy' forum is?'

You answer this, but then quickly went down some other completely different line of thinking, which had absolutely nothing at all to do with my question, and ended up completely adrift from what the question asked of you. It was like that 'you' were asking your 'self' some further question, and then replying to your own 'self', all by 'your' 'self'.

2. I also did ask you seven other clarifying questions as well.

But, you have totally REFUSED to answer any of them at all.

3. Do NOT forget the very reason WHY you ended up here.

4. You are here now, and you ended up here AFTER this 'philosophy forum' was formed, unless you can prove otherwise. So, if this forum was formed for the very reason, which you claim it was, then do NOT forget that you are now just ANOTHER 'one' of the now, so called, "insane retards", who are actually being "psychologically tested" on, RIGHT NOW, in fact.

5. From the way you are NOT able to just remain on one line of thinking, NOR are you at all able to clarify or back up and support absolutely any of your thoughts, then who the one IS, which is actually 'insane', is becoming far MORE CLEARER here NOW, all of the time, to those who are actually doing the 'psychological testing', that is; the readers.

Now, how does your 'new' claim that; "This forum is a cesspool of insanity, all the retards that ended up being banned from other sites ended up here." have absolutely any thing at all to do with your claim that; "The purpose of this 'philosophy' forum was created to "psychologically test" people"?

What actually evidence and/or proof have you actually got to back up and support 'your claim' that the very reason WHY this forum was set up and created is to "psychologically test" human beings?

Have you actually got absolutely ANY thing to support this claim? Or, is this claim just coming from some sort of paranoia, or from some thing else?

Oh, and by the way, I Truly HOPE, and would LOVE, that 'your claim' here is ABSOLUTELY True, Right, AND Correct.

[Age]

Lol no one here can read my actual personality.

I would NOT be so sure of this.

I KNOW of some who can read your type of personality very well.

No, you don't.

If this is what you BELIEVE, then this MUST BE absolutely TRUE and RIGHT, correct?

[Atla]

You supposedly will not read this from a "mentally ill fucktard" but you read all of the other posts of the "mentally ill fucktard" and which you have spend some time communicating with.
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Keep it short retard

Do NOT ever tell me 'what to do', and think or expect that I am going to do it. I, purposely, wrote a longer reply than I would have, last time, solely because you told me to; "Keep it short", last time.

Also, if you had any actual insight, then you would realize that the MORE I give 'you', then the MORE 'you' have to do your, so called, "psychologically testing", me on.

And, Some find it Truly amazing that you will repeat and quote some of what I say, AND respond to that, although you made the claim that you will NOT read "the blathering from a "mentally ill fucktard", but anyway as clearly evidenced you will quote some of what I write and respond to it, but, as soon as when I write things asking you to clarify what you actually mean, provide evidence for what you say, and/or back up and support your claims with at least SOME thing, you leave ALL OF THAT out, and just make the absurd claim that you will not read what I write.

To be able to SEE straight through 'you' is like looking through crystal CLEAR air. 'You' are as transparent as empty space IS.

Do you have a job?

[Age]

Keep it short retard

Do NOT ever tell me 'what to do', and think or expect that I am going to do it. I, purposely, wrote a longer reply than I would have, last time, solely because you told me to; "Keep it short", last time.

Also, if you had any actual insight, then you would realize that the MORE I give 'you', then the MORE 'you' have to do your, so called, "psychologically testing", me on.

And, Some find it Truly amazing that you will repeat and quote some of what I say, AND respond to that, although you made the claim that you will NOT read "the blathering from a "mentally ill fucktard", but anyway as clearly evidenced you will quote some of what I write and respond to it, but, as soon as when I write things asking you to clarify what you actually mean, provide evidence for what you say, and/or back up and support your claims with at least SOME thing, you leave ALL OF THAT out, and just make the absurd claim that you will not read what I write.

To be able to SEE straight through 'you' is like looking through crystal CLEAR air. 'You' are as transparent as empty space IS.

Do you have a job?

Do you REALLY 'expect' me to answer your clarifying question here, especially when you RARELY EVER answer mine?

Also, WHY do you appear to enjoy discussing with what you acknowledge and BELIEVE are the "mentally ill insanely idiot fucktards", like 'me'.

You appear to enjoy this so much that you are now wanting to get to KNOW 'me' EVEN MORE, and on a far more personal or deeper level.

Why do you ask this question? Would you be surprised if a, so called, "mentally ill insane fucktard" had a job, or because you are wondering how a "mentally ill fucktard" has the time to NOT "keep replies short" if they have a job, or is there some other reason WHY you want to know the answer to this question?

Considering this is a 'philosophy forum', which, despite your BELIEF, usually do center around the views ONLY of those who engage, what a human being does or does not DO actually usually has absolutely NO bearing NOR is of any interest nor concern in what the discussion is centered around. However, you seem to have a completely DIFFERENT view regarding what happens in discussions, in philosophy forums.

So, until you explain WHY you want to KNOW if 'I' have a 'job' or not I will NOT be answering this, once again, completely drifted off line of thinking.

[Atla]

Do NOT ever tell me 'what to do', and think or expect that I am going to do it. I, purposely, wrote a longer reply than I would have, last time, solely because you told me to; "Keep it short", last time.

Also, if you had any actual insight, then you would realize that the MORE I give 'you', then the MORE 'you' have to do your, so called, "psychologically testing", me on.

And, Some find it Truly amazing that you will repeat and quote some of what I say, AND respond to that, although you made the claim that you will NOT read "the blathering from a "mentally ill fucktard", but anyway as clearly evidenced you will quote some of what I write and respond to it, but, as soon as when I write things asking you to clarify what you actually mean, provide evidence for what you say, and/or back up and support your claims with at least SOME thing, you leave ALL OF THAT out, and just make the absurd claim that you will not read what I write.

To be able to SEE straight through 'you' is like looking through crystal CLEAR air. 'You' are as transparent as empty space IS.

Do you have a job?

Do you REALLY 'expect' me to answer your clarifying question here, especially when you RARELY EVER answer mine?

Also, WHY do you appear to enjoy discussing with what you acknowledge and BELIEVE are the "mentally ill insanely idiot fucktards", like 'me'.

You appear to enjoy this so much that you are now wanting to get to KNOW 'me' EVEN MORE, and on a far more personal or deeper level.

Why do you ask this question? Would you be surprised if a, so called, "mentally ill insane fucktard" had a job, or because you are wondering how a "mentally ill fucktard" has the time to NOT "keep replies short" if they have a job, or is there some other reason WHY you want to know the answer to this question?

Considering this is a 'philosophy forum', which, despite your BELIEF, usually do center around the views ONLY of those who engage, what a human being does or does not DO actually usually has absolutely NO bearing NOR is of any interest nor concern in what the discussion is centered around. However, you seem to have a completely DIFFERENT view regarding what happens in discussions, in philosophy forums.

So, until you explain WHY you want to KNOW if 'I' have a 'job' or not I will NOT be answering this, once again, completely drifted off line of thinking.

You just spent another 10 minutes not answering. And you said you would stop commenting and let me have the final word or whatever like 20 comments ago, many of them half a page long.

I'm not really interested in you. You are just confirming my sad conclusion that there is no hope for humanity and it's mainly your fault.

[Age]

Do you have a job?

Do you REALLY 'expect' me to answer your clarifying question here, especially when you RARELY EVER answer mine?

Also, WHY do you appear to enjoy discussing with what you acknowledge and BELIEVE are the "mentally ill insanely idiot fucktards", like 'me'.

You appear to enjoy this so much that you are now wanting to get to KNOW 'me' EVEN MORE, and on a far more personal or deeper level.

Why do you ask this question? Would you be surprised if a, so called, "mentally ill insane fucktard" had a job, or because you are wondering how a "mentally ill fucktard" has the time to NOT "keep replies short" if they have a job, or is there some other reason WHY you want to know the answer to this question?

Considering this is a 'philosophy forum', which, despite your BELIEF, usually do center around the views ONLY of those who engage, what a human being does or does not DO actually usually has absolutely NO bearing NOR is of any interest nor concern in what the discussion is centered around. However, you seem to have a completely DIFFERENT view regarding what happens in discussions, in philosophy forums.

So, until you explain WHY you want to KNOW if 'I' have a 'job' or not I will NOT be answering this, once again, completely drifted off line of thinking.

You just spent another 10 minutes not answering.

As I said, I make my posts longer now because you told me to, "keep them short".

And you said you would stop commenting and let me have the final word or whatever like 20 comments ago, many of them half a page long.

Two things here;

1. I NEVER said I would do that. Instead I asked you a clarifying question about IF I did that, then would that make you happy? And, as usual you NEVER answered this question.

And,

2. Although you NEVER answered that question, I still let you have the final word, which was; "More bullshit". And, I left you with that, and hopefully happy in 'that'.

I ALSO did actually leave you with those last words, in relation to that conversation. It was not until you decided to join in later, to a conversation that I was having with someone else, that 'you' and 'I' then began ANOTHER discussion, about SOMETHING ELSE.

In fact, it was about 27 posts between when I let you have the 'last word' and before I started replying to you, AFTER it was YOU who STARTED again by commenting about me and "another", in a completely different discussion, which you were NOT originally involved in anyway.

I'm not really interested in you.

Okay, then how about PROVING IT, by NOT corresponding with me and NOR asking questions about what 'I' do. You can NOT even clarify WHY you ask such meaningless questions, so that implies that you have NO real reason nor purpose for doing so.

You are just confirming my sad conclusion that there is no hope for humanity and it's mainly your fault.

When thee actual Truth is discovered, then it will be KNOWN HOW ALL-OF-THIS is all of my fault.

If you SEE 'no hope', then that, sadly, is literally exactly what you have, and will get.

And, if it is mainly my fault that you have jumped to the conclusion that have here, then that means I have far more CONTROL over 'you', then some would have first thought, and which you probably do detest. If I can make you conclude that, then there are other things that can make 'you' do and have control over, in regards to, 'you'.

[Atla]

As I said, I make my posts longer now because you told me to, "keep them short".
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Unbelievable. You even think that you wasting your own time is bad for me.

[Dontaskme]

So, what is 'consciousness'?

The only knowing of what is consciousness is..is that it is a word, and also any attempt to describe consciousness would also be words.

What is it made up of?

It's made up of the same IT as in ''IT's'' raining.

How does it exist?

It exists the same way a word exists.

Who and/or what is it exactly?

it's a word.

How did it come to be, and where did it come from exactly?

It comes from the word.

So, the one known as "dontaskme" purports to KNOW what the actual Truth IS,

No man, you are not listening to what I've said are you..I said the character ''dontaskme'' is known, and so that which is known cannot know anything....

but will NOT clarify if that one is the One Consciousness or not.

But oh yes I did clarify that for you..I clearly stated that ALL knowing is known by the only there is which is CONSCIOUSNESS.

Also, if the character, known as "dontaskme", cannot know anything, then how did it know what the facts are,

But why are you now saying this when it is obvious the character ''dontaskme'' knows nothing? why do you then assume the character could know the facts? here you are still assuming that it is the character that knows, when in fact I have repeatedly informed you that no character is NOT able to know anything. It's not a ''someone'' that knows - the ''someone'' is the KNOWN that cannot be known. Knowing is ONE...IT'S A VERB.

and that I have not yet got the fact so called "straight" already?

This is just banter, it's a communication of consciousness with itself.

But Consciousness, Itself, has ALREADY been conceived, and conceived in a Truly logical, Truly sensible, AND Truly reasonable way.

Yes, but only conceived as and through the word, in this conception. Prior to which it is not known to exist.

That is HOW and WHY Consciousness can ask you a serious of questions, which you leave completely baffled to answer and explain. This is because 'you' still have a lot more to learn, and understand.

I've already been over this with you several times explaining and answering and giving clarification to you, but if you are too dumb to see what has been said to you, then there is nothing I can do about that...and is why WE will both continue to go through the same old endless wash cycle, as though we are both trapped inside a washing machine and cannot get out...it seems that for you and I there is NO HOPE of our discussion ever coming out in the WASH.

But hey ho, it is what it is...I've got nothing better to do with my time, so here I am yet again, stuck with you, again!!

So, to 'you', HERE in this Universe there is absolutely NO 'thing', including NO 'Universe', until some 'thing' known as a 'Knower' creates some known 'thing', which actually creates the 'Knower' in the EXACT SAME moment, as the conception, itself.

Well of course, knower and known have to exist in the exact same instantaneous moment..that knowing is who you are, you are right here now...as this one knowing. This oneness is everywhere at once. ONCE means one, and one means everything and nothing simultaneously.

Just out of curiosity, are 'you' at all able to explain HOW if there is absolutely NO thing at all, then HOW does a Knower, or a known, just appear in order to create each other?

No thing at all can only exist in relation to every thing. This knowing Oneness does not require an explanation as to how it can be, for that would be like the contents of consciousness trying to explain consciousness...it's an absurd idea.

I thought this was SO OBVIOUS a fact that it just goes 'without saying', except of course the KNOWN, Knower can and does KNOW EVERY 'thing' anyway.

Why do you think and/or feel that 'you' would 'need' to keep telling 'us', or 'you', this same thing repeatedly, which I do NOT see how any one would even disagree with, let alone would 'try' to dispute and refute?

Because discussion involves language which is knowledge on repeat, which arises on demand when that knowledge is in flow, being shared within the knowing consciousness...it's just what appears to happen, it's no big deal.

But 'that', which ALREADY KNOWS the known, can be KNOWN, by Its Self, OBVIOUSLY.

Yep, it's the only knowing there is, like I keep repeating to you.

How do 'I' KNOW this? Because 'I' am thee Knower, Consciousness, Itself, OBVIOUSLY.

Yep, that's right.

Or, maybe 'I' actually do KNOW more in regards to 'your' comments, and even 'you', that 'self', and the very reason WHY I continue to question you regards this, and other things, is just because I WANT TO?

Yep, the questions keep arising and demanding clarification because that's just what happens, because it can.

Is that with the "someone else", which 'you' continually state does NOT even exist?

Yep, the ''someone else'' is just a figment within the mind of consciousness, it's only ever self talking to itself. It can only communicate to itself as and through the conceptual word...which manifests as and through the human mind brain organism, the only instrument available.

Also, just maybe I am hoping to engage with "another" in the hope of finding "another" who will question me in the same way I question them, and then together these two, so called, "sages" will discover a way to SHOW and REVEAL the underlying True message, which is within us ALL, and which is wanting to be SHARED among ALL.

If that is what is arising at the time, the energetic movement to want to express itself better with itself, aka others, then there is nothing wrong with that, but for this one here, from the perspective of the consciousness here, it has no desire to better express itself, for it has no such desire to do so, as it couldn't careless about such activity.

I am looking for those who think that they could be able to get me to contradict what I have previously said, by questioning and/or challenging me, like I do to them. Or, I am looking for those that think they can get me to NOT be able to soundly and valid explain my views in argument form, or get me to NOT be able to back up and support my views and claims.

Well good luck with that then, whatever floats your boat. I'm personally not interested in that desire, I'm just here talking to you for entertainment value only, something to do so to speak. It's kind of a fun thing to do to be honest. But I do not care about how what I write or post is perceived or reacted to, I'm just here to entertain myself only, even if that means I am negatively attacked for being misunderstood, it makes no difference to me, for I always know what I am talking about 100% of the time anyway...so I don't really care about what others think of me or what I write about.

Another True 'sage' would have been able to recognize and SEE this ALREADY. See, the more that I am questioned, specifically, then the more I am able to Truly explain things, specifically.

Except that no one on this forum seems to be in harmony with you, so you can't be doing a good job of explaining what you seem to think needs explaining...but I do not care about that either.

Have a nice day...bye for now, until the next thrilling installment.

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[Dontaskme]

To me, colors are seen.

Nope, colours are NOT seen.

Colours are KNOWN...and that which is KNOWN cannot see or know anything. Colours are KNOWN by the only knowing there is which is consciousness. Consciousness is NOT SEEN/KNOWN...CONSCIOUSNESS is the seeing/knowing..

Reality is a VERB...there is here only verb world that manifests as ''seeing'' and ''knowing'' ..two concepts that basically means the same ONE mysterious NOT-KNOWING known phenomena that is this immediate presence...aka awareness.

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[surreptitious57]

Reality is a VERB ... there is here only verb world that manifests as seeing and knowing ... two concepts that basically
means the same ONE mysterious NOT KNOWING known phenomena that is this immediate presence ... aka awareness

Thats a bit confusing because if Reality is a phenomena then it must be a noun rather than a verb
Because it is not something that does anything but merely exists because it is literally ALL THERE IS
Things inside Reality do things but Reality itself which is the totality of everything does nothing at all

[Age]

As I said, I make my posts longer now because you told me to, "keep them short".
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BLABLABLABLA

Unbelievable. You even think that you wasting your own time is bad for me.

No. I do NOT think any such thing AT ALL.

I am just SHOWING how 'I' am NOT controlled by 'you' AT ALL, while 'I' am REVEALING how 'I' am actually controlling 'you'.

[surreptitious57]

Reality is a VERB ... there is here only verb world that manifests as seeing and knowing ... two concepts that basically
means the same ONE mysterious NOT KNOWING known phenomena that is this immediate presence ... aka awareness

Thats a bit confusing because if Reality is a phenomena then it must be a noun rather than a verb
Because it is not something that does anything but merely exists because it is literally ALL THERE IS
Things inside Reality do things but Reality itself which is the totality of everything does nothing at all