The Existential Crisis

[Atla]

You usually spend the whole day on me when I stick around for some reason, although I'm not particularly interested what kind of implications that has about your bathroom use.

10 minutes is a "whole day" where you live ? Which planet are you from? Same one as Age or a different one?

Sometimes it can go on all day. For example you are almost incapable of not replying to this comment.

Here is your reply:

[Skepdick]

It's like I am a fortune-teller or something!

Man, that's a long-worded way of not shutting up.

Sometimes it can go on all day. For example you are almost incapable of not replying to this comment.

[Atla]

It's like I am a fortune-teller or something!

Man, that's a long-worded way of not shutting up.

Sometimes it can go on all day. For example you are almost incapable of not replying to this comment.

And your next reply:

[Skepdick]

Skepdick was right. I just can't shut up.

[Atla]

Skepdick was right. I just can't shut up.

One more please:

[uwot]

Seeing a range of colors has absolutely NOTHING whatsoever to do with what is meaningful, logical,, reasonable, and sensible.

I disagree. Colours are just one sort of sensation. Throw in taste, touch, smell, sound and any emotional or intellectual state; any personal experience you care to consider. If it is not those that you are trying to make meaningful, logical, reasonable and sensible, what are you talking about?

Seeing the WHOLE picture of Life comes from the Mind's Eye...

What evidence is there that the Mind's Eye is more reliable than the optic eye? Bear in mind the optic eye of me and the Himba register exactly the same thing. It is our minds that makes particular colours invisible to us.

Besides that how I can KNOW I am SEEING the WHOLE picture is because I ALREADY KNOW what ALL can agree with, and accept.

Well yep, I think you could get a broad consensus with this:

...we ALL, individually, have different views, and perspectives..

Beyond that, nothing else you have said has elicited much agreement among the contributors.

And, OBVIOUSLY if ALL are agreeing and accepting of some 'thing', then that 'thing', which is being agreed upon and accept by ALL, is thee actual Truth of things.

That's an argumentum ad populum; it's a fallacy unless you want to go all conventionalist and insist that what people agree is the truth, is the truth.

[Sculptor]

Seeing a range of colors has absolutely NOTHING whatsoever to do with what is meaningful, logical,, reasonable, and sensible.

I disagree. Colours are just one sort of sensation. Throw in taste, touch, smell, sound and any emotional or intellectual state; any personal experience you care to consider. If it is not those that you are trying to make meaningful, logical, reasonable and sensible, what are you talking about?

Seeing the WHOLE picture of Life comes from the Mind's Eye...

What evidence is there that the Mind's Eye is more reliable than the optic eye? Bear in mind the optic eye of me and the Himba register exactly the same thing. It is our minds that makes particular colours invisible to us.

Besides that how I can KNOW I am SEEING the WHOLE picture is because I ALREADY KNOW what ALL can agree with, and accept.

Well yep, I think you could get a broad consensus with this:

...we ALL, individually, have different views, and perspectives..

Beyond that, nothing else you have said has elicited much agreement among the contributors.

And, OBVIOUSLY if ALL are agreeing and accepting of some 'thing', then that 'thing', which is being agreed upon and accept by ALL, is thee actual Truth of things.

That's an argumentum ad populum; it's a fallacy unless you want to go all conventionalist and insist that what people agree is the truth, is the truth.

I'm not sure he's worth the time.
According to science sound is vibration, principally in air, light is photons, colour is differing wavelength of those photons. What we "perceive" is not the same as those things but experiential representations of those things. Were we bats, then we could "see" the sounds as 3D objects. Were we dogs then we would see colours differently. Its pretty clear that humans see colours differently anyway. There are people who can see sounds and hear colours. All that experience is internal, but stimulated by outside factors. The "things" in themselves are not what we see.
I just do not think you can get Age to think that far.

[Age]

Many of your posts try to ridicule and humiliate, so that's another lie from you.

And, once again, you NEVER added any thing of any substance. Where is the actual time I have supposedly 'tried to' ridicule and humiliate just ONCE, let alone "many" times?

You are so sure of yourself, but look at the actual words you use. Now, prove that your claim here has any actual basis to it all. SHOW where I have done this just ONCE, and then provide the actual words I used that you see as being "ridiculing" and "humiliating". If you do NOT do this, then some will be SEEING straight through 'you'.

How many times are you going to claim that I lie but NEVER back it up with any thing else?

I didn't just give hints, I explained quite well why your bullshit beliefs are wrong, and are pretty standard mentally ill nonsense actually.

LOL you are getting beyond a joke now. How could you actually explain why my beliefs are wrong IF I have absolutely NO beliefs at all?

Also, just if you say you have, "explained quite well what I have said is wrong", then this is absolutely NO evidence that you have actually done this at all. If you do NOT provide any evidence, then you are NOT able to prove that it is NOT you who is the one who is actually lying here, now.

People like you do more harm than good,

What are people "like me", actually?

How do people, "like me", do more harm?

Who and/or what do people, "like me", supposedly do more harm to, exactly?

And, what "good" do you actually do?

so don't be surpired that when you bring your malignant subhuman bullshit to an online forum and try to one-up everyone, some people will treat you the way you deserve. But I explained this as well already.

If you really did, then when?

And, how do I deserve to be treated?

And, what I have actually said or done that means that I "deserve to be treated" the way you think and/or believe I deserve?

We live in an age where people like you aren't simply killed off, so I might just take the opportunity and conduct some psychological experiments on you hehe.

Again, what is with the "people like you" in reference to exactly?

If you NEVER finish off explaining what it is that you are REALLY thinking, then we will NEVER know what it is, which you are thinking and believing.

And, how are these so called "psychological experiments" supposedly, "on me", working out, for 'you', exactly?

What conclusion have you arrived at so far, other than, "I DESERVE to be treated in some particular way that only you are aware of", that "I am an insane idiot" and all the other degrading terms , which you have used, and that "people like me should be killed off" because we have different views than you do?

You really can NOT stand that I have gained what you Truly sought out and STILL DESIRE, correct?

I won't read all that blathering from a mentally ill fucktard. Take your meds and keep it short.

You supposedly will not read this from a "mentally ill fucktard" but you read all of the other posts of the "mentally ill fucktard" and which you have spend some time communicating with. Do you usually spend so much of your time communicating with "mentally ill fucktards" as you have with this one?

You also supposedly will not read this post because it asks you to back up and support your claims, but because it is absolutely impossible for you to provide absolutely any evidence at all you will just lie and pretend that you will not read it.

As can be CLEARLY EVIDENCED here, some people CLEARLY NOTICE that when you are asked to explain further what you allege, asked to clarify how you define some of the words you use, and asked to provide actual evidence to back up and support your claims that you will NOT do this because you can NOT do this.

What 'you' actually do, who 'you' are, and what 'you' are completely and utterly INCAPABLE of doing is completely transparent here. Some wonder what it is that you are 'trying to' achieve here?

Obviously when people, like 'me', bring completely 'new' information and knowledge to a WHOLE generation of human beings, like 'you', there will always be people, like 'you', who can do NOTHING but 'try to' ridicule " people like 'me' ". Even you noted that " people like 'me' " used to get killed for REVEALING thee Truth of things to " people like 'you' ", but now you can NOT do this and ALL that you have left is to just HATE, degrade, and humiliate.

So, I suggest just keep doing 'this' what you are ONLY capable of doing, as the more STUPID and INSANE you call 'me' and 'try' to make me look, the MORE you are PROVING, with PRIME EXAMPLES, my discovery about how the brain actually works and about what it is ONLY capable of doing.

Your PRIME EXAMPLES of ONLY being able to express what you BELIEVE is true but NEVER actually being able to back up and support these ill gotten BELIEFS also provides the EXACT ACTUAL EVIDENCE I NEED as PROOF in regards to my claim, again, about how the brain actually works, in comparison with how the Mind actually works.

So, thank you VERY MUCH. Keep up the GREAT WORK.

[Age]

I won't read all that blathering from a mentally ill fucktard. Take your meds and keep it short.

Man, that's a long-worded way of not shutting up.

The main purpose of this "philosophy" "forum" is to psychologically test the weird creatures that ended up here.

Is this REALLY what the purpose of this 'philosophy' forum is? And, what are you basing your claim here on exactly?

Did you have some input into creating this forum? Or, have you just turned 'philosophy' into some other thing, of your own making?

Also, and by the way, what are you basing YOUR OWN "psychological testing" on exactly? I wonder what the tests will REVEAL if these tests are based on 'YOU' alone?

And, do you have any actual intention of releasing 'your' concluded "results"? If so, then WHERE?

Like you and Age for example, you guys volunteered for this, maybe we can figure out some interesting new things.

If you still have NOT "figured out some interesting new things" from us two YET, then what is HOLDING you back?

Also, from your replies, to me at least anyway, you appear to have ALREADY made your so called "psychologically" results. To 'you', 'I' am just a "mentally ill FUCKTARD", which by the way is NOT a well-known medically recognized diagnosis. So, will you, THIS TIME, provide any actual further explanation and/or clarity about what your medical diagnosis actually MEANS?

For example, What is it actually like to be a, so called, "fucktard"?

What is it EXACTLY one does and/or says that "enlightens" 'you' to 'them' being a, supposedly, "pyschologically tested", so called, 'FUCKTARD"?

[Age]

The main purpose of this "philosophy" "forum" is to psychologically test the weird creatures that ended up here. Like you and Age for example, you guys volunteered for this, maybe we can figure out some interesting new things.

And you didn't volunteer?

It's cute that you don't see yourself as a test subject.

Lol no one here can read my actual personality.

I would NOT be so sure of this.

I KNOW of some who can read your type of personality very well.

[Age]

Seeing a range of colors has absolutely NOTHING whatsoever to do with what is meaningful, logical,, reasonable, and sensible.

I disagree. Colours are just one sort of sensation. Throw in taste, touch, smell, sound and any emotional or intellectual state; any personal experience you care to consider.

I disagree. To me, 'color', itself, is NOT a 'sensation' like taste, touch, smell, sound, et cetera are. 'Color' is just only one part of the sensation of 'seeing'. 'Seeing' is one sort of sensation like taste, touch, smell, et cetera.

To me, colors are seen. Colors are NOT a sensation, like the five generally known sensations ARE.

If it is not those that you are trying to make meaningful, logical, reasonable and sensible, what are you talking about?

I do not even know what this question is asking?

What is 'it' exactly that you think or believe I am supposedly 'trying to' make meaningful, logical, reasonable, and sensible?

I am NOT aware of ANY thing, which I am supposedly 'trying to' make meaningful, logical, reasonable, and sensible.

Seeing the WHOLE picture of Life comes from the Mind's Eye...

What evidence is there that the Mind's Eye is more reliable than the optic eye?

None that I am ready to FULLY share at this moment here, in this forum. But, basically, the actual WAY the Mind and the brain work is the actual evidence that the Mind's Eye can actually be 100% more reliable than the optic eye.

But, obviously, one will have to first learn HOW the Mind and the brain actually work, before they can FULLY understand this.

Bear in mind the optic eye of me and the Himba register exactly the same thing. It is our minds that makes particular colours invisible to us.

You will OBVIOUSLY have to FIRST understand what my definition of what the 'Mind' actually IS BEFORE you will be READY to start to understand what EVIDENCE I have and WILL provide.

By the way, what is the 'our' word, which you use here, in relation to exactly?

And then, what is this 'mind' thing, exactly, to you?

Besides that how I can KNOW I am SEEING the WHOLE picture is because I ALREADY KNOW what ALL can agree with, and accept.

Well yep, I think you could get a broad consensus with this:

...we ALL, individually, have different views, and perspectives..

Beyond that, nothing else you have said has elicited much agreement among the contributors.

Great.

I am NOT here to elicit ANY agreement among the contributors here.

In fact, if I can elicit as much disagreement and separation as I can among the contributors here, then I will have GREATER EVIDENCE of HOW ALL human beings have different views, and perspective, and what 'it' is EXACTLY that ALL human beings agree, and which actually UNITES them together as One. After all it is this latter one that is needed in order for me to SHOW HOW, very soon, ALL of 'you' human beings will be living in peace and harmony together as One.

And, OBVIOUSLY if ALL are agreeing and accepting of some 'thing', then that 'thing', which is being agreed upon and accept by ALL, is thee actual Truth of things.

That's an argumentum ad populum; it's a fallacy unless you want to go all conventionalist and insist that what people agree is the truth, is the truth.

I have ALREADY EXPLAINED WHY this is NOT "argumentum ad populum" at all. I also am NOT going to 'insist' any thing at all. What I say can just either be refuted or it can not. If it can NOT, then obviously NO 'insisting' is needed at all.

By the way, I noticed you did NOT take on any of my explanation AND proof of WHY color, itself, has absolutely NOTHING whatsoever to do with what is Truly meaningful, et cetera, in Life.

[Age]

Seeing a range of colors has absolutely NOTHING whatsoever to do with what is meaningful, logical,, reasonable, and sensible.

I disagree. Colours are just one sort of sensation. Throw in taste, touch, smell, sound and any emotional or intellectual state; any personal experience you care to consider. If it is not those that you are trying to make meaningful, logical, reasonable and sensible, what are you talking about?

Seeing the WHOLE picture of Life comes from the Mind's Eye...

What evidence is there that the Mind's Eye is more reliable than the optic eye? Bear in mind the optic eye of me and the Himba register exactly the same thing. It is our minds that makes particular colours invisible to us.

Besides that how I can KNOW I am SEEING the WHOLE picture is because I ALREADY KNOW what ALL can agree with, and accept.

Well yep, I think you could get a broad consensus with this:

...we ALL, individually, have different views, and perspectives..

Beyond that, nothing else you have said has elicited much agreement among the contributors.

And, OBVIOUSLY if ALL are agreeing and accepting of some 'thing', then that 'thing', which is being agreed upon and accept by ALL, is thee actual Truth of things.

That's an argumentum ad populum; it's a fallacy unless you want to go all conventionalist and insist that what people agree is the truth, is the truth.

I'm not sure he's worth the time.
According to science sound is vibration, principally in air, light is photons, colour is differing wavelength of those photons. What we "perceive" is not the same as those things but experiential representations of those things. Were we bats, then we could "see" the sounds as 3D objects. Were we dogs then we would see colours differently. Its pretty clear that humans see colours differently anyway. There are people who can see sounds and hear colours. All that experience is internal, but stimulated by outside factors. The "things" in themselves are not what we see.
I just do not think you can get Age to think that far.

From what 'you' have said here you are still a far way behind from understanding what I am essentially, only alluding to.

By the way, what is it exactly do you think I am saying, which does NOT fit in with what you are just saying here?

[surreptitious57]

There is ONLY One actual Truth but there is at least as many perceived truths as there are old enough perceiving human beings

I think one actual truth is that everything is in a constant state of motion as nothing is ever the same at any two points in space or time
This is not the only actual truth I know as another is that no two perspectives are ever exactly the same so there is more than one truth

But from your perspective what is the one actual truth and how do you know there is only one ?
And also could all of the perceived truths not simply be approximations of the one actual truth ?

[Atla]

You supposedly will not read this from a "mentally ill fucktard" but you read all of the other posts of the "mentally ill fucktard" and which you have spend some time communicating with.
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[Atla]

Is this REALLY what the purpose of this 'philosophy' forum is?
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Yes. It's a cesspool of insanity, all the retards that ended up being banned from other sites ended up here.