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Age wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:27 am

Cerveny wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2024 6:02 pm Just as a moving elementary particle can appear as a wave, so too can moving (macro) matter appear as dark. In both cases it is a matter of pulling, of dragging the viscous structure of space, of aether I think :)

And how does one pull, or drag, the viscous structure of space, or of aether, exactly?

Also, what even is 'aether', and, 'space', exactly?

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:46 am

Age wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:29 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:03 am Could it be argued that dark energy is strictly nothing,

Yes.

I would be interested to see how nothing can be proven....

Cerveny wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 9:43 am

Age wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:27 am

Cerveny wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2024 6:02 pm Just as a moving elementary particle can appear as a wave, so too can moving (macro) matter appear as dark. In both cases it is a matter of pulling, of dragging the viscous structure of space, of aether I think

And how does one pull, or drag, the viscous structure of space, or of aether, exactly?

Also, what even is 'aether', and, 'space', exactly?

Aether is the substrate from which space / Universe is made. The Universe is a growing crystal of aether. It grows from the Future. Interface between Future and Past is Presence - quantum world, quantum “fire”. I think:)

Age wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:34 am ….
Space is not made from something else, but anyway I asked you what is 'aether', and, 'space', exactly.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:03 am Could it be argued that dark energy is strictly nothing, and this nothingness is the raw potentiality that allows a thing to move for movement is strictly the occurence and dissolution of a distinction?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 1:51 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:03 am Could it be argued that dark energy is strictly nothing, and this nothingness is the raw potentiality that allows a thing to move for movement is strictly the occurence and dissolution of a distinction?

Personally I think the 'dark energy' is what operates below the Planck scale and provides our perceivable REAL IT Y...in fact, I believe it could be GOD.

Cerveny wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 12:58 pm

Age wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:34 am ….
Space is not made from something else, but anyway I asked you what is 'aether', and, 'space', exactly.

I asked you what is 'space' exactly How can you claim something about the Space if you don't know what it is?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 1:51 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:03 am Could it be argued that dark energy is strictly nothing, and this nothingness is the raw potentiality that allows a thing to move for movement is strictly the occurence and dissolution of a distinction?

Personally I think the 'dark energy' is what operates below the Planck scale and provides our perceivable REAL IT Y...in fact, I believe it could be GOD.

Cerveny wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2024 6:02 pm Just as a moving elementary particle can appear as a wave, so too can moving (macro) matter appear as dark. In both cases it is a matter of pulling, of dragging the viscous structure of space, of aether I think

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:36 pm It could be synonymous with the eastern concept of Tao.

Age wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:29 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:03 am Could it be argued that dark energy is strictly nothing,

Yes.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 1:51 pm Personally I think the 'dark energy' is what operates below the Planck scale and provides our perceivable REAL IT Y...in fact, I believe it could be GOD.

Noax wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:44 pm

attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 1:51 pm Personally I think the 'dark energy' is what operates below the Planck scale and provides our perceivable REAL IT Y...in fact, I believe it could be GOD.

Take a random effect that one doesn't understand and just slap the 'god' label on it? I quite assure you that dark energy is in no way responsible for most of the effects normally attributed to gods.

Noax wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:44 pm

Cerveny wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2024 6:02 pm Just as a moving elementary particle can appear as a wave, so too can moving (macro) matter appear as dark. In both cases it is a matter of pulling, of dragging the viscous structure of space, of aether I think

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:36 pm It could be synonymous with the eastern concept of Tao.

Age wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:29 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:03 am Could it be argued that dark energy is strictly nothing,

Yes.

OK, all this I sort of expect from these respective posters. The next one not quite as expected.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 1:51 pm Personally I think the 'dark energy' is what operates below the Planck scale and provides our perceivable REAL IT Y...in fact, I believe it could be GOD.

Take a random effect that one doesn't understand and just slap the 'god' label on it? I quite assure you that dark energy is in no way responsible for most of the effects normally attributed to gods.

Noax wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:44 pm

Cerveny wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2024 6:02 pm Just as a moving elementary particle can appear as a wave, so too can moving (macro) matter appear as dark. In both cases it is a matter of pulling, of dragging the viscous structure of space, of aether I think

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:36 pm It could be synonymous with the eastern concept of Tao.

Age wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:29 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:03 am Could it be argued that dark energy is strictly nothing,

Yes.

OK, all this I sort of expect from these respective posters.

Noax wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:44 pm The next one not quite as expected.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 1:51 pm Personally I think the 'dark energy' is what operates below the Planck scale and provides our perceivable REAL IT Y...in fact, I believe it could be GOD.

Take a random effect that one doesn't understand and just slap the 'god' label on it? I quite assure you that dark energy is in no way responsible for most of the effects normally attributed to gods.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:04 pm

Noax wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:44 pm

attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 1:51 pm Personally I think the 'dark energy' is what operates below the Planck scale and provides our perceivable REAL IT Y...in fact, I believe it could be GOD.

Take a random effect that one doesn't understand and just slap the 'god' label on it? I quite assure you that dark energy is in no way responsible for most of the effects normally attributed to gods.

I wonder if you had direct empirical observations of what this GOD entity is capable of for the past 27 years, permitting you to comprehend many of its attributes,

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:04 pm whether you would permit yourself to theorise about from whence it operates?

Cerveny wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2024 12:32 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:25 am …
ONCE MORE, ADDRESSED TO ABSOLUTELY NO one.

Now, the QUESTION of THIS THREAD IS:

What is 'dark energy'?

Would ANY one else like to PROVIDE an ANSWER?

What we see in galaxies is not "dark matter", but a vortex of viscous (imperfect) solution of matter in the aether -> towards the future:), I think... BTW, infinitely large or infinitely lasting things do not exist, that would be against, let's say..., nature :)), I think... @Age, please, sorry, you don't have to answer

Cerveny wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:23 pm

Cerveny wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2024 12:32 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:25 am …
ONCE MORE, ADDRESSED TO ABSOLUTELY NO one.

Now, the QUESTION of THIS THREAD IS:

What is 'dark energy'?

Would ANY one else like to PROVIDE an ANSWER?

What we see in galaxies is not "dark matter", but a vortex of viscous (imperfect) solution of matter in the aether -> towards the future:), I think... BTW, infinitely large or infinitely lasting things do not exist, that would be against, let's say..., nature ), I think... @Age, please, sorry, you don't have to answer

PS: Space without aether is not physics but mathematics