Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:48 pm
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:41 pm
Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:34 pm
Umm I think Nick_A was a Christian gnostic nondualist or something like that, and Walker was his sidekick. But Christian gnostic nondualism and Eastern "pure" nondualism have very little in common.
Well, Walker was incredibly deferrential to the real life in India head of ashram Guru that trolled here for a year or so. Praising his wisdom. So, perhaps he doesn't know the difference.
From what I've seen, many gurus from India also don't know the difference between "pure" nondualism and their God-oneness-illusion-sex cult BS.
To say I am this, or I am that, convinces oneself of illusory, conceptual boundaries that bleed over into apprehension of reality.
This affects action by limiting the possibility for understanding. For example, you two lovebirds strike me as
someones who has dabbled in this and that, and in this although you may not have the depth of knowledge and experience to inspect, that’s not going to stop you from inspecting. You must be from the government. (You may chuckle, because that was funny).
Although we are talking about what can elevate consciousness by the subtraction process of emptying the cup of old preconceptions that often get randomly picked up in a hodge podges of places, fortunately we are not talking about your capacity as an elevator inspector
per se, where lives depend upon your verified and empowered deep knowledge of elevation mechanics.
Also, freedom is found in not being bound to the limitations of what you think a posting, or what causes a posting, should be.
As a personal preference of mine, which is by way of saying this should not be interpreted as a universal principle that applies to all folks, I have found that when shallow interpretations are assigned to me in the third person while I’m within earshot of the gossip, then I am witnessing a chickenshit invitation to dialogue in the form of stepping into another’s world of ignorance and into defending this or that assumption assigned to me that is borne in that world.
Hopefully, since I felt compelled to take a few precious minutes to dwell in this realm, for reasons irrelevant to actionless action, I’m figuring that even though you may follow the limitations of a well-worn path, you still have some surviving remnants of the capacity to both follow the narrative of communication and grasp the truth it expresses, and in doing so apprehend the objective clarity and truth of the observations.
"If you can do that, if you can do that and polish that spot …" then you could go forth and transmorgrify the energy used for shallow inspections, and instead likewise as demonstrated transcend the limitations of the well-worn path that has brought you to this moment while keeping in mind the dangers of what would be an ego-shattering experience for a heavy ego attachment, which is a good thing if the alternative to making you stronger doesn’t kick in.
‘Tis not narcissism that causes a roll in the infinite potentiality of a word wallow, but rather, ‘tis the perpetual bliss of consciousness that choicelessly holds the still axis of the world in place around which chaos effortlessly organizes, which could have something to do with spiritual centrifical force, or an excentrifical force that Zappa observed.
Don’t be too confused in trying to understand because that may force you to project confusion as a call to action in others, don’t you know.
don't ever stop making me laugh. 
