The Case Against Suicide

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Atla wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:04 pm
Darkneos wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:42 pm
Atla wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:24 pm No reason to live is no reason to die.
I beg to differ, if there is no reason to live then death is the natural follow up.
Why?
Why go on if there is no reason to? Sounds illogical:
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Gary Childress wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:13 pm However, the closest homeless shelter where I can volunteer is about 45 minutes away and I don't see the value in burning through a quarter tank of fossil fuel every other day.
Catch a bus. The bus is going to burn the fuel whether you are on it or not. Stop making excuses.

Gary Childress wrote:I go to free church support groups once in a while, though. Just wish I were a Christian, like everyone else in those groups.
Holy crap Gazza, those mindless sheep would put anyone off of comprehending Je_SUS Christ.
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Darkneos wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:14 pm Why go on if there is no reason to?
Does nothing about the future intrigue you? Do you not wonder where you might be around now, next year?
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attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:17 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:13 pm However, the closest homeless shelter where I can volunteer is about 45 minutes away and I don't see the value in burning through a quarter tank of fossil fuel every other day.
Catch a bus. The bus is going to burn the fuel whether you are on it or not. Stop making excuses.
That's a good idea. Thanks.
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Gary Childress wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:21 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:17 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:13 pm However, the closest homeless shelter where I can volunteer is about 45 minutes away and I don't see the value in burning through a quarter tank of fossil fuel every other day.
Catch a bus. The bus is going to burn the fuel whether you are on it or not. Stop making excuses.
That's a good idea. Thanks.
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attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:18 pm
Darkneos wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:14 pm Why go on if there is no reason to?
Does nothing about the future intrigue you? Do you not wonder where you might be around now, next year?
Obviously not otherwise I wouldn’t ask the question. When you’re dead such questions mean nothing.
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Darkneos wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:14 pm
Atla wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:04 pm
Darkneos wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:42 pm

I beg to differ, if there is no reason to live then death is the natural follow up.
Why?
Why go on if there is no reason to? Sounds illogical:
It's not illogical, it just has no ultimate reason.
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attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:27 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:21 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:17 pm

Catch a bus. The bus is going to burn the fuel whether you are on it or not. Stop making excuses.
That's a good idea. Thanks.
Hakuna Matata.

Y <-- don't U have some faith in that symbol, honestly, I don't under_stand U people.
Is it OK if I don't want to volunteer at a homeless shelter? Or does it make me a worthless parasite or something because I really don't want to?
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Darkneos wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:30 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:18 pm
Darkneos wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:14 pm Why go on if there is no reason to?
Does nothing about the future intrigue you? Do you not wonder where you might be around now, next year?
Obviously not otherwise I wouldn’t ask the question. When you’re dead such questions mean nothing.
Are you suffering from depression? ..everything seems pointless to me when that cloud is there - rarely I get it, usually if i've had a booze bender for 3 days or more.

My uncle hung himself from depression (i had no idea of his condition)

It's worse than when GOD is f****** wiv me, in a 3mth HELL mode - there I try and fight for my life, but depression - no thanks.
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Gary Childress wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:35 pm Is it OK if I don't want to volunteer at a homeless shelter?
Yes, I am grappling with whether I bother this Christmas myself!

Gary Childress wrote:Or does it make me a worthless parasite or something because I really don't want to?
Nah..it just makes you Gary Childress, a dude that could probably find something more fun to do than waste his time on wot are likely a bunch of karmic affected degenerates.. :roll:
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attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:39 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:35 pm Is it OK if I don't want to volunteer at a homeless shelter?
Yes, I am grappling with whether I bother this Christmas myself!

Gary Childress wrote:Or does it make me a worthless parasite or something because I really don't want to?
Nah..it just makes you Gary Childress, a dude that could probably find something more fun to do than waste his time on wot are likely a bunch of karmic affected degenerates.. :roll:
There are only three types of people in the world. Karmic affected degenerates, karmic unaffected degenerates, and non-degenerates. And if we think we're not degenerates, then that makes us degenerates.

See how that works?
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Re: The Case Against Suicide

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Atla wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:30 pm
Darkneos wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:14 pm
Atla wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:04 pm
Why?
Why go on if there is no reason to? Sounds illogical:
It's not illogical, it just has no ultimate reason.
It is illogical, one needs a reason to live. Death happens eventually
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Gary Childress wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:45 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:39 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:35 pm Is it OK if I don't want to volunteer at a homeless shelter?
Yes, I am grappling with whether I bother this Christmas myself!

Gary Childress wrote:Or does it make me a worthless parasite or something because I really don't want to?
Nah..it just makes you Gary Childress, a dude that could probably find something more fun to do than waste his time on wot are likely a bunch of karmic affected degenerates.. :roll:
There are only three types of people in the world. Karmic affected degenerates, karmic unaffected degenerates, and non-degenerates. And if we think we're not degenerates, then that makes us degenerates.

See how that works?
..yes, yes i do...it makes you miserable and incapable of making your own decisions...especially ones where you could improve your circumstances.
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Re: The Case Against Suicide

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attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:36 pm
Darkneos wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:30 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:18 pm

Does nothing about the future intrigue you? Do you not wonder where you might be around now, next year?
Obviously not otherwise I wouldn’t ask the question. When you’re dead such questions mean nothing.
Are you suffering from depression? ..everything seems pointless to me when that cloud is there - rarely I get it, usually if i've had a booze bender for 3 days or more.

My uncle hung himself from depression (i had no idea of his condition)

It's worse than when GOD is f****** wiv me, in a 3mth HELL mode - there I try and fight for my life, but depression - no thanks.
Why do people assume depression when people question the worth of life? Sounds like people are scared of the answers.

Seems like it’s easier to just label people sick.
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Re: The Case Against Suicide

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Darkneos wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:45 pm
Atla wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:30 pm
Darkneos wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:14 pm

Why go on if there is no reason to? Sounds illogical:
It's not illogical, it just has no ultimate reason.
It is illogical, one needs a reason to live. Death happens eventually
True. Death requires the least effort of anything. It's like gravity. And when a person loses all reason to want to put effort into life, we need to receive death threats from someone else just to scare us into putting more effort into life. However, receiving death threats from others is extremely depressing and undermines a person's will to live.
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