Sorry to hear you are in a bad place. I can definitely relate. Sometimes I wish there were a good reason for me to live, however, even if there isn't, death is pretty fucking scary.Darkneos wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:02 pm I guess this is a good a place as any.
I’ve struggled to find a good argument against suicide that doesn’t involve either nonsense or special pleading to life or hindsight bias.
The way I see it if there is no greater reason to meaning to life then there isn’t really a reason to keep going. Not reason to really struggle and fight for a place in the world. No reason to really pursue anything. One can just end their life and be done with the pursuit and struggle.
To me arguments for staying alive or for meaning only work if you HAVE to live. Filling life with good things, doing what you love, all that junk only has logical weight if one is unable to die until a set time. Baring that I see no reason for living. Desire for pleasures only applies if you are alive, if you die there is no need for any of that. Same with love, friendship, food, money, etc.
My favorite words from Albert Camus:
I don't know if the "meaning of life" is the right noun to use or the right way to pose the question. It's probably better to say that "I therefore conclude that finding good reason to live is the most urgent of questions."“I see many people die because they judge that life is not worth living. I see others paradoxically getting killed for the ideas or illusions that give them a reason for living (what is called a reason for living is also an excellent reason for dying). I therefore conclude that the meaning of life is the most urgent of questions.”
Maybe I would feel better if I volunteered to feed the hungry or did something humanitarian. However, the closest homeless shelter where I can volunteer is about 45 minutes away and I don't see the value in burning through a quarter tank of fossil fuel every other day. I need to find a way to make my community better. But I don't know how. Effort is the most difficult thing to give. I go to free church support groups once in a while, though. Just wish I were a Christian, like everyone else in those groups.
