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Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:59 pm The "default position" per what?

Per everything is different from everything else.

Difference is axiomatic.

"Sameness" is a claim. Justify it.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:01 pm

Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:59 pm The "default position" per what?

Per everything is different from everything else.

Difference is axiomatic.

"Sameness" is a claim. Justify it.

But you're not just saying that they're different words. You're assigning particular properties to them.

Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:06 pm But you're not just saying that they're different words. You're assigning particular properties to them.

I am not doing anything of that sort.

ANY TWO THINGS (whatever their properties) are different.

If you are asserting "sameness" based on "properties" then justify those too.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:07 pm
I am not doing anything of that sort.

You wrote "Decisions require information." That's assigning a property to decisions, and it was done in distinction to choices.

Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:10 pm You wrote "Decisions require information." That's assigning a property to decisions, and it was done in distinction to choices.

No, it isn't. Your interpretation is all fucked up.

Information serves as input to decisions. It's not a property of decisions.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:12 pm

Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:10 pm You wrote "Decisions require information." That's assigning a property to decisions, and it was done in distinction to choices.

No, it isn't. Your hermeneutics are all fucked up.

So no, it's not in distinction from choices?

Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:13 pm So no, it's not in distinction from choices?

I don't have to distinguish it. They are not the same. Axiomatically.

Information serves as input to decisions. No information -> undecidable.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:14 pm

Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:13 pm So no, it's not in distinction from choices?

I don't have to distinguish it. They are not the same. Axiomatically.

Information serves as input to decisions. No information -> undecidable.

Is the distinction decidable?

Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:15 pm Is the distinction decidable?

No. It's axiomatic. You don't have to decide.

Any two things are distinct.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:16 pm

Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:15 pm Is the distinction decidable?

No. It's axiomatic. You don't have to decide.

Any two things are distinct.

How are we getting to the "decisions require information" part?

Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:23 pm How are we getting to the "decisions require information" part?

If you are going to decide "sameness" between X and Y then you have to have a criterion which obtains.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:26 pm

Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:23 pm How are we getting to the "decisions require information" part?

If you are going to decide "sameness" between X and Y then you have to have a criterion which obtains.

Huh? How does that explain why you're writing "decisions require information" ?

Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:27 pm Huh? How does that explain why you're writing "decisions require information" ?

The criterion which obtains is what is required to make the decision THAT X is "the same" as Y

Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:28 pm

Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:27 pm Huh? How does that explain why you're writing "decisions require information" ?

The criterion which obtains is what is required to make the decision THAT X is "the same" as Y

What in the world are you talking about? What sameness are you talking about?

Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:29 pm What in the world are you talking about? What sameness are you talking about?

YOU claimed that "choosing" is "deciding". You claimed sameness.

Provide the criterion which obtains.