Philosophy Now Forum

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:57 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:44 pm Now, stop pretending he's typical, and answer the question: beyond a right to legally complain, what is the "due" of all the non-citizen MS 13 members in your country, that the last admin let in to to destroy the place with drugs, violence, crime, rape, child abuse and theft?

You know the answer: nothing.

This is really the most important issue. It is imperative to break up this gang, and any gangs (including Mexican cartels) and this will require going right up to the edge of the law.

When I said that Flash likely has other motives, those motives are not positive ones. I.e. not helpful in mercilessly crushing the gangs, their foothold, etc.

Laws are often breached (everywhere in the world) when criminal enterprises are attacked. One hopes at a minimum. But in real time it doesn’t always work out like that.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 3:21 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 2:41 pm Are you Trumpians sure you're not going to fuck up America in the long term? Trump doesn't seem like he knows what he is doing. We have been leaders in science and research. That distinction may go to China when Trump is finished with us. Does that make you happy?

Try this perspective: So much depends today on spin and how things are framed. So, the opposition to Trump (we must admit) is and would have been inevitable. He was framed as Hitlerian, fascism incarnate, etc.

No matter what he did or didn’t do, the reaction is predictable, no?

I examine both poles of reporting, both poles of narrative. And there is a positive spin and a negative spin. How can we know where the “truth” is?

But notice too that “the success of America” is a fraught concept. Success likely means recovering political and economic power. And power is always problematic, isn’t it? Because it involves power-plays and dominion.

So what is “patriotism”? A Chomskian-style intense critique of American power? The dismantling of hegemonic power? Or the restoration of that power?

You, Gary, exist within a territory, a bizarre, confused, indeed pained realm of sheer uncertainty! You are not a force of cohesion, you are (taken on the whole) a sort of de-cohesive force. An acid.

The internal struggles in the US reflect the disjoining of social agreements. The political, social and ideological bonds become undone. No one agrees.

Why are you concerned about scientific or industrial domination? On what basis, in accord with what ethical imperative would you support recovery of dominance in the science/industrial realm?

You have no way to support America as a power-entity! It is immorality incarnate.

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FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:07 pm

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:57 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:44 pm Now, stop pretending he's typical, and answer the question: beyond a right to legally complain, what is the "due" of all the non-citizen MS 13 members in your country, that the last admin let in to to destroy the place with drugs, violence, crime, rape, child abuse and theft?

You know the answer: nothing.

This is really the most important issue. It is imperative to break up this gang, and any gangs (including Mexican cartels) and this will require going right up to the edge of the law.

When I said that Flash likely has other motives, those motives are not positive ones. I.e. not helpful in mercilessly crushing the gangs, their foothold, etc.

Laws are often breached (everywhere in the world) when criminal enterprises are attacked. One hopes at a minimum. But in real time it doesn’t always work out like that.

When you find yourself accusing others of evil intent because they oppose an uncivilised slide into extra-judicial execution by secret police death squads, or extraordinary renditions to concentration camps... is is time for you to stop and reconsider whether you are actually the good guy of your own imagination.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:40 pm The problem is, then, that in your view the best course for the US is indeed that it break up into mini-states after the coming civil and social war comes about.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:58 pm

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:40 pm The problem is, then, that in your view the best course for the US is indeed that it break up into mini-states after the coming civil and social war comes about.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:40 pm

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:07 pm

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:57 pm
This is really the most important issue. It is imperative to break up this gang, and any gangs (including Mexican cartels) and this will require going right up to the edge of the law.

When I said that Flash likely has other motives, those motives are not positive ones. I.e. not helpful in mercilessly crushing the gangs, their foothold, etc.

Laws are often breached (everywhere in the world) when criminal enterprises are attacked. One hopes at a minimum. But in real time it doesn’t always work out like that.

When you find yourself accusing others of evil intent because they oppose an uncivilised slide into extra-judicial execution by secret police death squads, or extraordinary renditions to concentration camps... is is time for you to stop and reconsider whether you are actually the good guy of your own imagination.

There is a far larger issue. Consider the view — you hold to it, as do Gary and possibly also Pistolero — that the US power structure is, and has been, fundamentally corrupt. The Postwar hegemon. The bully. The policeman.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:40 pm Anyone who has absorbed Chomskian views has feelings of deep-seated contempt and shame for the “evils” of the US.

Let’s not even go into the US-Israel relationship.

The problem is, then, that in your view the best course for the US is indeed that it break up into mini-states after the coming civil and social war comes about.

Unity of the nation? That won’t — it cannot — happen. The identity of the US as a needed hegemon has collapsed.

See the larger issues drive the smaller issues. Or in any case have effect.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 3:46 pm You really are not good at this.

mickthinks wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 6:04 pm

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 3:46 pm You really are not good at this.

Manny not good at lying? Never a truer word!

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 6:01 pm Don't assign that cheap populist drivel to me.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 6:12 pm

mickthinks wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 6:28 pm Here we aspire to deal only in truth and reason.

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