The Democrat Party Hates America

[Walker]

If it helps, I can provide a quote from one of the Supreme Court justices again which explicitly calls for his return from Salvadoran exile so that he can be granted the due process.

The Supreme Court is not the final word on immigration matters.

The reason why, has been explained. Separation of powers.

You should get that through your thick head.

[Pistolero]

When the enemy is at the door, the defenders become panicked.
If they have no homogeneous ehtnic or cultural identity, they turn on each other, fighting over how to deal with the threat.

This is where diversity shows its true value....its weakness.

Not AI....but you freaks can find some other excuse to dismiss it.

Democrats, Republicans, differed in what?
Tax policies , gun rights, and abortion issues....so nothing important.
Now the threat is imminent....now the lines are divided along the lines of crisis management.
Trillions of dollars in debt, for a population that has no health care,many of which live in relative squalor, huge class divisions, with no culture or ethnicity to unify them.

The American dream is over....Time to wake up.

[Alexis Jacobi]

You are correct in suggesting that my ethical and political sympathies lie with one set of protests far more than the other.

Fair enough. To be honest with you I am not sure what “side” as it were to support. I can fill out my concerns and why I debate over these issues.

But what is in a sense more important is to realize that consequential ideological and political battles are being fought.

To discuss them requires some level of remove from them.

[FlashDangerpants]

… but the realistic expectation is for newer and lower lows in the near future.

Indeed! The next low may well involve El Salvador, or wherever, putting gas chambers and crematoria in their detention facilities, in return for reduced tariffs, and the Trump administration saying “Oopsie! Nothing we can do” while all the time flouting court orders to stop the Xolocaust.

If you’ve ever wondered what you would have done in Nazi Germany, you are doing it now.

Walker and Immanuel Can would have no doubt joined the Schutzstaffel.

Those two are indeed born collaborators aren't they?

[Alexis Jacobi]

That’s unfair, Flash!

I would turn both of you in for free! I’d waive my normal fee. A pro bono act of sheer generosity. For the good of The Whole!

Pack your bags, m’boy. First things first: a much needed haircut!

[Walker]

… but the realistic expectation is for newer and lower lows in the near future.

Indeed! The next low may well involve El Salvador, or wherever, putting gas chambers and crematoria in their detention facilities, in return for reduced tariffs, and the Trump administration saying “Oopsie! Nothing we can do” while all the time flouting court orders to stop the Xolocaust.

If you’ve ever wondered what you would have done in Nazi Germany, you are doing it now.

Walker and Immanuel Can would have no doubt joined the Schutzstaffel.

Those two are indeed born collaborators aren't they?

It's a collaboration with Truth, Justice, and The American Way.

Had the intent and function of the constitution not been corrupted by The Democrats Who Hate America, and their minions, then everything would be just ducky in The Promised Land of Milk and Honey.

[FlashDangerpants]

Indeed, that is the prison he's being held in, if you look up "CECOT human rights violations" you will quickly realize why he is going to be a very rich man when he is back in America and has sued the government. He's going to win so many millions of dollars in compensation.

Are you a betting man?

I wager: Sr. Garcia will never return or be returned to the US.

He will never “be back” and therefore will never sue.

His wife (a US citizen) could very well sue and has a dream-case that I’ll bet is already being put together.

I can see your point. Having sent him into a notorious torture site, the Trump admin cannot afford to have him back in America talking on TV about what he saw there. And Nayib “the world’s coolest dictator” Bukele may equally be motivated by fear of one day facing charges in The Hague.

So arranging a little Epstein ending for their prisoner might strike them as a good idea.

[FlashDangerpants]

If it helps, I can provide a quote from one of the Supreme Court justices again which explicitly calls for his return from Salvadoran exile so that he can be granted the due process.

The Supreme Court is not the final word on immigration matters.

It is the final word on immigration law, and the final tribunal which decides if immigration law has been broken. They rendered that decision 9-0 against you.

You can ignore the ruling if you want. You just have to decide whether you are doing that to become a failed state with no law at all, or a dictatorship where law is suborned to the will of the man in power.

[Immanuel Can]

First, please confirm that you do now understand that Kilmar Abrego Garcia was denied due process...

Nope. The White House disagrees with you, apparently. So you'll have to sort that out in court, and the Supreme Court has not given you very much to work with there. He has a right to object, but no right to remain if grounds are not found. The constitution does not guarantee him citizenship, only a hearing.

If, as some say, it were true that KAG had a work permit, then it would be true that he had more than other illegals had, but still no justification to be in the country. He wasn't a citizen, and apparently did not enter legally. He's also apparently a criminal and member of a terrorist gang. If the deporters gave him a chance to legally contest his extradition, then they gave him everything the constitution requires. In any case, it's a good thing he's where he is: I doubt you want to advocate for America to have more gangbangers, drug lords, sex traffickers and wife beaters, do you?

[FlashDangerpants]

First, please confirm that you do now understand that Kilmar Abrego Garcia was denied due process...

Nope. The White House disagrees with you, apparently. So you'll have to sort that out in court, and the Supreme Court has not given you very much to work with there.

The full ruling of the Supreme Court is here, it's only a few pages.
That's published here in PDF form.

From the Sotomayor concurrence, you get this passage:
Nevertheless, I agree with the Court’s order that the proper remedy is to provide Abrego Garcia with all the process to which he would have been entitled had he not been unlawfully removed to El Salvador. That means the Government must comply with its obligation to provide Abrego Garcia with “due process of law,” including notice and an opportunity to be heard, in any future proceedings.

[Alexis Jacobi]

I can see your point. Having sent him into a notorious torture site, the Trump admin cannot afford to have him back in America talking on TV about what he saw there. And Nayib “the world’s coolest dictator” Bukele may equally be motivated by fear of one day facing charges in The Hague.

So arranging a little Epstein ending for their prisoner might strike them as a good idea.

It is less than a torture site, but it is harsh prison environment with thousands of intense criminals. But all incarceration could be classed as torturous, no?

My recommended plan: Wifey initiate a lawsuit. And rake in some millions. She might have a pretty good case. It would depend (perhaps?) on what happens at the mid-terms.

Then she and they can take advantage of the public sentiment (the coming summer months of 2025 will be hot ) and maybe see her husband released into the general population of El Salvador.

Then, man and wife move to, let’s say Panama (?) where those millions will go far indeed.

It is a win-win situation. But it will take 2-4 years to get to that resolution.

[Gary Childress]

Are you Trumpians sure you're not going to fuck up America in the long term? Trump doesn't seem like he knows what he is doing. We have been leaders in science and research. That distinction may go to China when Trump is finished with us. Does that make you happy?

https://thebulletin.org/2025/04/make-ch ... st-heading

[Immanuel Can]

First, please confirm that you do now understand that Kilmar Abrego Garcia was denied due process...

Nope. The White House disagrees with you, apparently. So you'll have to sort that out in court, and the Supreme Court has not given you very much to work with there.

The full ruling of the Supreme Court is here, it's only a few pages.
That's published here in PDF form.

From the Sotomayor concurrence, you get this passage:
Nevertheless, I agree with the Court’s order that the proper remedy is to provide Abrego Garcia with all the process to which he would have been entitled had he not been unlawfully removed to El Salvador. That means the Government must comply with its obligation to provide Abrego Garcia with “due process of law,” including notice and an opportunity to be heard, in any future proceedings.

Writing bigger and in colour doesn't make the content different. His "due process" involves no more than the right to representation and objection. It doesn't give him the right to citizenship, or residency, or not to be deported when his protest fails. So again, I'll ask the question you can't answer: what "process" that is actually constitutionally "due" to them, are the illegals being denied?

[FlashDangerpants]

Nope. The White House disagrees with you, apparently. So you'll have to sort that out in court, and the Supreme Court has not given you very much to work with there.

The full ruling of the Supreme Court is here, it's only a few pages.
That's published here in PDF form.

From the Sotomayor concurrence, you get this passage:
Nevertheless, I agree with the Court’s order that the proper remedy is to provide Abrego Garcia with all the process to which he would have been entitled had he not been unlawfully removed to El Salvador. That means the Government must comply with its obligation to provide Abrego Garcia with “due process of law,” including notice and an opportunity to be heard, in any future proceedings.

Writing bigger and in colour doesn't make the content different. His "due process" involves no more than the right to representation and objection. It doesn't give him the right to citizenship, or residency, or not to be deported when his protest fails. So again, I'll ask the question you can't answer: what "process" that is actually constitutionally "due" to them, are the illegals being denied?

I am trying to help you find the bits of the text you are in need of. You are selectively blind to information you dislike and have been for a very long time.

All I have been saying is that he was denied due process. Yes, due process is just stuff like the right to challenge your accuser and dispute the evidence and have a representative. All of those things were denied to him and you should be offended by that too. I wasn't saying that he deserved anything more than that, I never have said any such thing. You are trying to railroad me into all sorts of things I am not saying. You always do that.

I have been consistently and correctly describing the one case that was referenced by Walker. I haven't been discussing any other cases.

[Immanuel Can]

I am trying to help you find the bits of the text you are in need of.

No, you're not. You're just repeating "due process," without saying what it really involves. Right of appeal. That's it, essentially.

So if any illegal is given the chance to protest through legal channels, and that appeal is found to be groundless, he's had all the rights to which he's entitled, and can be deported. So much for "due process."

You just don't like to admit that deporting illegals is just fine, constitutionally. But it is.

I haven't been discussing any other cases.

And we know why. That one case may have involved a work permit. The rest don't. So you'd like to make that one case into every case. But we can see though that, and we aren't buying it.