When you find yourself accusing others of evil intent because they oppose an uncivilised slide into extra-judicial execution by secret police death squads, or extraordinary renditions to concentration camps... is is time for you to stop and reconsider whether you are actually the good guy of your own imagination.Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:57 pmThis is really the most important issue. It is imperative to break up this gang, and any gangs (including Mexican cartels) and this will require going right up to the edge of the law.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:44 pm Now, stop pretending he's typical, and answer the question: beyond a right to legally complain, what is the "due" of all the non-citizen MS 13 members in your country, that the last admin let in to to destroy the place with drugs, violence, crime, rape, child abuse and theft?
You know the answer: nothing.
When I said that Flash likely has other motives, those motives are not positive ones. I.e. not helpful in mercilessly crushing the gangs, their foothold, etc.
Laws are often breached (everywhere in the world) when criminal enterprises are attacked. One hopes at a minimum. But in real time it doesn’t always work out like that.
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Fair enough. You're welcome to email me whatever you like. I can't promise to read it unless you pay me something for the waste of my time.Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 3:21 pmTry this perspective: So much depends today on spin and how things are framed. So, the opposition to Trump (we must admit) is and would have been inevitable. He was framed as Hitlerian, fascism incarnate, etc.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 2:41 pm Are you Trumpians sure you're not going to fuck up America in the long term? Trump doesn't seem like he knows what he is doing. We have been leaders in science and research. That distinction may go to China when Trump is finished with us. Does that make you happy?
No matter what he did or didn’t do, the reaction is predictable, no?
I examine both poles of reporting, both poles of narrative. And there is a positive spin and a negative spin. How can we know where the “truth” is?
But notice too that “the success of America” is a fraught concept. Success likely means recovering political and economic power. And power is always problematic, isn’t it? Because it involves power-plays and dominion.
So what is “patriotism”? A Chomskian-style intense critique of American power? The dismantling of hegemonic power? Or the restoration of that power?
You, Gary, exist within a territory, a bizarre, confused, indeed pained realm of sheer uncertainty! You are not a force of cohesion, you are (taken on the whole) a sort of de-cohesive force. An acid.
The internal struggles in the US reflect the disjoining of social agreements. The political, social and ideological bonds become undone. No one agrees.
Why are you concerned about scientific or industrial domination? On what basis, in accord with what ethical imperative would you support recovery of dominance in the science/industrial realm?
You have no way to support America as a power-entity! It is immorality incarnate.
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Isn’t now a good time to sign up?! If not now, when?!
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There is a far larger issue. Consider the view — you hold to it, as do Gary and possibly also Pistolero — that the US power structure is, and has been, fundamentally corrupt. The Postwar hegemon. The bully. The policeman.FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:07 pmWhen you find yourself accusing others of evil intent because they oppose an uncivilised slide into extra-judicial execution by secret police death squads, or extraordinary renditions to concentration camps... is is time for you to stop and reconsider whether you are actually the good guy of your own imagination.Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:57 pmThis is really the most important issue. It is imperative to break up this gang, and any gangs (including Mexican cartels) and this will require going right up to the edge of the law.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:44 pm Now, stop pretending he's typical, and answer the question: beyond a right to legally complain, what is the "due" of all the non-citizen MS 13 members in your country, that the last admin let in to to destroy the place with drugs, violence, crime, rape, child abuse and theft?
You know the answer: nothing.
When I said that Flash likely has other motives, those motives are not positive ones. I.e. not helpful in mercilessly crushing the gangs, their foothold, etc.
Laws are often breached (everywhere in the world) when criminal enterprises are attacked. One hopes at a minimum. But in real time it doesn’t always work out like that.
Anyone who has absorbed Chomskian views has feelings of deep-seated contempt and shame for the “evils” of the US.
Let’s not even go into the US-Israel relationship.
The problem is, then, that in your view the best course for the US is indeed that it break up into mini-states after the coming civil and social war is concluded disastrously.
Unity of the nation? That won’t — it cannot — happen. The identity of the US as a needed hegemon has collapsed.
See the larger issues drive the smaller issues. Or in any case have effect.
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:40 pm The problem is, then, that in your view the best course for the US is indeed that it break up into mini-states after the coming civil and social war comes about.
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You too?!?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:58 pmAlexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:40 pm The problem is, then, that in your view the best course for the US is indeed that it break up into mini-states after the coming civil and social war comes about.![]()
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Don't assign that cheap populist drivel to me.Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:40 pmThere is a far larger issue. Consider the view — you hold to it, as do Gary and possibly also Pistolero — that the US power structure is, and has been, fundamentally corrupt. The Postwar hegemon. The bully. The policeman.FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:07 pmWhen you find yourself accusing others of evil intent because they oppose an uncivilised slide into extra-judicial execution by secret police death squads, or extraordinary renditions to concentration camps... is is time for you to stop and reconsider whether you are actually the good guy of your own imagination.Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:57 pm
This is really the most important issue. It is imperative to break up this gang, and any gangs (including Mexican cartels) and this will require going right up to the edge of the law.
When I said that Flash likely has other motives, those motives are not positive ones. I.e. not helpful in mercilessly crushing the gangs, their foothold, etc.
Laws are often breached (everywhere in the world) when criminal enterprises are attacked. One hopes at a minimum. But in real time it doesn’t always work out like that.
That's all got nothing to do with me at all. This is what I was criticising before when I wrote "Your (plural) proposed solutions are always populist, you (plural) haven't really got the attention span to understand technocratic solutions.".Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:40 pm Anyone who has absorbed Chomskian views has feelings of deep-seated contempt and shame for the “evils” of the US.
Let’s not even go into the US-Israel relationship.
The problem is, then, that in your view the best course for the US is indeed that it break up into mini-states after the coming civil and social war comes about.
Unity of the nation? That won’t — it cannot — happen. The identity of the US as a needed hegemon has collapsed.
See the larger issues drive the smaller issues. Or in any case have effect.
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Manny not good at lying? Never a truer word!
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In a twisted sense he might be the most optimistic person I have ever encountered. He always believes that no matter how horribly he shits the bed and smears himself in the mess, he can make it all work out if he can just twist your words one last time.
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So, I see, you have an uptown & high-end drivel.
Well exCUSE me!
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Your rhetoric is high grade stuff but, as is often the way with rhetoric, the logic it pretends to is faulty.
And PhiNow Phorum isn’t supposed to be a platform for sophistry. Here we aspire to deal only in truth and reason.
Try again?
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I knew someone here had a real sense of humor!
That was funny!
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Again the rhetorical flourish vaulting over the chasm in logic. I have no intention of claiming that everyone who posts at PN is here to discuss their issues in good faith. On the contrary. By “we” I didn’t mean the totality, or a majority, or even a sizeable minority.
No, when I say that here we aspire to honest philosophy I am aware that I am placing myself in a small and indefinite coterie of fellow philosophers—the Rick Lewis Crew, if you like—whose commitment to truth and mutual respect trumps any desire to win any arguments.
The question for you is; do you, Alexis Jacobi, want to be with us, or are you one of the all too numerous outsiders?
No, when I say that here we aspire to honest philosophy I am aware that I am placing myself in a small and indefinite coterie of fellow philosophers—the Rick Lewis Crew, if you like—whose commitment to truth and mutual respect trumps any desire to win any arguments.
The question for you is; do you, Alexis Jacobi, want to be with us, or are you one of the all too numerous outsiders?
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I am in most respects in a higher category. I descend in a mood of compassion. To assist. I crawl into the mud pit and make Herculean efforts to rescue the brethren!
I need a bath …
(Though I must say that everything I have read of Rick Lewis’s has been solid and first-rate. He thinks and writes in clear, compact manner).
I honestly feel I can guide you to those levels that you regard as truthful & honest.
I was born of a good-faith mother. I was baptized in good-faith. I walk in an aroma of good-faith.
Where shall we take this, Mick?
I need a bath …
(Though I must say that everything I have read of Rick Lewis’s has been solid and first-rate. He thinks and writes in clear, compact manner).
I honestly feel I can guide you to those levels that you regard as truthful & honest.
I was born of a good-faith mother. I was baptized in good-faith. I walk in an aroma of good-faith.
Where shall we take this, Mick?
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This is the topic of the thread, is it not? Or its starting point:
What do you think?
You — the philosophical seeker of the true — will certainly have things to say, no?
Have you read or more likely watched Levin?In American Marxism, Mark Levin explained how Marxist ideology has invaded our society and culture. In doing so, he exposed the institutions, scholars, and activists leading the revolution. Now, he picks up where he left off: to hold responsible the true malefactors steering our country down the wrong path.
Insightful and hard-hitting as ever, Levin proves that since its establishment, the Democrat Party has set out to rewrite history and destroy the foundation of freedom in America. More than a political party, it is the entity through which Marxism has installed its philosophy and its new revolution.
What do you think?
You — the philosophical seeker of the true — will certainly have things to say, no?
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Levin called Trump "the first Jewish president."