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Lacewing wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:00 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:53 pm Again: Wash your hands, stop bein' so touch-feely with others, consult your doc if you're worried, stop lookin' to gov for solutions and calm down.

Ah yes... simple words and simple thoughts you repeat over and over like your hero Trump... as if you're saying so much more than you actually are, and as if you are the voice of profound reason among everyone else.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:54 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:51 pm Sure it does.

As I say: If, in scarin' populations, one can get a better grip on folks, well, scare the hell out of 'em.

And we could end up with a 'tighter grip' on us than we ever would have thought possible.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:44 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:32 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:15 pm What I don't understand is why Govts. are collectively destroying the world economy and risking sending humans hundreds of years backwards for something that essentially only kills old people--and even then they have an 86 percent survival rate. The resulting chaos will ensure the death of hundreds of millions of people (conservatively) including all the old people the shutdown has supposedly 'saved', because they will be unable to get their massive supply of medications. Same with those in all the 'at risk' groups and anyone else who depends on medication for their survival.
Is it because so many of the world's 'leaders' are in the 'at risk' age group ahem Trump ?

Simply: the power-hungry will never let a crisis (real, inflated, or fake) pass without takin' advantage of it.

If, in scarin' populations, one can get a better grip on folks, well, scare the hell out of 'em.

Carona is perfect for this: pernicious and novel, it's a boogeyman to frighten the rabble and, in democracies, get folks to agree to restrictions and limits and controls which, once in place, will stay in place, crisis or no crisis.

End of April can't get here fast enough.

The world's economy and so-called 'civilised' society is extremely fragile at the best of times.
Politicians are putting everything at risk for something that is little deadlier than seasonal flu. Many people get no symptoms at all. If they send us hundreds of years backwards then all those elderly will die anyway. No one in the 'at risk' groups will be able to get their medications.
if a truly deadly plague comes along then there will be nothing we can do because humanity had played all its cards over this. Hundreds of millions (at least) of people will die in the resulting chaos. It simply makes no sense. And when you complain you get jumped on as 'insensitive' and 'immoral' towards the sacrosanct elderly. More fucking PC and a result of the stupid, short-sighted, shallow world of social media. No one is capable of thinking things through any more. I hope you are right about it 'blowing over' by April, although it doesn't seem likely. Blown UP perhaps.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:49 pm Speaking of stupid, shallow, virtue-signalling PCturds....

Lacewing wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:09 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:49 pm Speaking of stupid, shallow, virtue-signalling PCturds....

I know being a bitchy hater is your gig. Is that all you got?

henry quirk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:07 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:54 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:51 pm Sure it does.

As I say: If, in scarin' populations, one can get a better grip on folks, well, scare the hell out of 'em.

And we could end up with a 'tighter grip' on us than we ever would have thought possible.

That's what I'm sayin', that's it exactly.

Was I unclear up-thread?

henry quirk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:06 pm Please, feel free to not wash up, hug everyone, delete your doc's # from your contacts, camp out on the state house steps and wait for handouts, and panic.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:00 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:53 pm Again: Wash your hands, stop bein' so touch-feely with others, consult your doc if you're worried, stop lookin' to gov for solutions and calm down.

Ah yes... simple words and simple thoughts you repeat over and over like your hero Trump... as if you're saying so much more than you actually are, and as if you are the voice of profound reason among everyone else.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:00 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:53 pm Again: Wash your hands, stop bein' so touch-feely with others, consult your doc if you're worried, stop lookin' to gov for solutions and calm down.

Ah yes... simple words and simple thoughts you repeat over and over like your hero Trump... as if you're saying so much more than you actually are, and as if you are the voice of profound reason among everyone else.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:12 pm

Lacewing wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:09 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:49 pm Speaking of stupid, shallow, virtue-signalling PCturds....

I know being a bitchy hater is your gig. Is that all you got?

I'm glad you think it's ok that women can't get formula to feed their babies. Unsurprising though. Shallow hypocrisy is the default PC position.

commonsense wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:09 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:44 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:32 pm

Simply: the power-hungry will never let a crisis (real, inflated, or fake) pass without takin' advantage of it.

If, in scarin' populations, one can get a better grip on folks, well, scare the hell out of 'em.

Carona is perfect for this: pernicious and novel, it's a boogeyman to frighten the rabble and, in democracies, get folks to agree to restrictions and limits and controls which, once in place, will stay in place, crisis or no crisis.

End of April can't get here fast enough.

The world's economy and so-called 'civilised' society is extremely fragile at the best of times.
Politicians are putting everything at risk for something that is little deadlier than seasonal flu. Many people get no symptoms at all. If they send us hundreds of years backwards then all those elderly will die anyway. No one in the 'at risk' groups will be able to get their medications.
if a truly deadly plague comes along then there will be nothing we can do because humanity had played all its cards over this. Hundreds of millions (at least) of people will die in the resulting chaos. It simply makes no sense. And when you complain you get jumped on as 'insensitive' and 'immoral' towards the sacrosanct elderly. More fucking PC and a result of the stupid, short-sighted, shallow world of social media. No one is capable of thinking things through any more. I hope you are right about it 'blowing over' by April, although it doesn't seem likely. Blown UP perhaps.

How a society regards its weakest members reflects its character.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:27 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:12 pm

Lacewing wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:09 pm
I know being a bitchy hater is your gig. Is that all you got?

I'm glad you think it's ok that women can't get formula to feed their babies. Unsurprising though. Shallow hypocrisy is the default PC position.

Seriously, can you be any more dishonest and stupid? Focusing on one issue or another that you can rant about is lame and lazy. As if you're taking up causes or doing a damn thing yourself to help anyone. If mothers who need formula are your target group today, GO HELP THEM or shut the fuck up!

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:15 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:07 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:54 pm

And we could end up with a 'tighter grip' on us than we ever would have thought possible.

That's what I'm sayin', that's it exactly.

Was I unclear up-thread?

But isn't chaos and 'jungle law' what you have always hankered after? Ironically 'no control' inevitably becomes 'total control'.

commonsense wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:19 pm All Henry is saying is that you should rely on hand hygiene and social distancing and not wait for the government to provide protection against the virus.

It bears repeating because it does say more.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:32 pm Getting a bit hysterical today? What's wrong? Can't get your medication?