Coronavirus Craziness

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Why is this your biggest worry?

Are you worried that they could die?

Were you expecting them to live forever?



To me, craziness is 'worrying' about only one of the countless viruses, which may or may not exist or may or may not come to exist.

Why is just one virus the biggest worry you have, especially considering the chances that they will die anyway from some other thing, which is probably countless times higher?

Could part of the reason be just because this one virus is on the so called "news", and people on social media outlets are talking it?

It scares people because humans don't have any immunity to it. I've never had 'seasonal flu' in my life because I suppose I must be immune to it.

What do you mean "humans do not have any immunity to corona virus"?

Did you just mean 'some' humans do not have any immunity to corona virus? Or, did you actually really mean ALL humans do not have any immunity to corona virus? Or, did you mean some thing else?

I mean humans don't have immunity to covid-19.

[Skepdick]

Not seein' mistakes on my part: even worst case, carona won't come near the flu in mortality.

Calm down & carry on is exactly what the talkin' heads ought to be sayin'.

Wash your hands, stop bein' so touch-feely with others, consult your doc if you're worried, stop lookin' to gov for solutions and calm down.

This kind of ignorance fills up hospitals first, then graveyards.

"Calm down & carry on" is what China, Italy, Germany and Spain did at first.

There is now weak evidence that people can be asymptomatic carriers of the virus which means all of our "reporting" is under-estimated. It also means that you will survive, but you will infect others who might not be so lucky.

So DON'T carry on!. DO over-react. DON'T panic. Minimise contact with others. Work from home if you can. Shut down public gatherings. All of those are necessary and effective over-reactions.

When all your hospitals and ICU wards fill up with COVID-19 patients, guess who's going to start dying next? All those people who need emergency medical care (for all other reasons that are not related to COVID), but can't get it!

Don't carry on. Over-react. Flatten the curve.

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[Age]

No, but I'm not looking to lose them sooner than later.

Would ANY human being "look" to lose any one of those select few that are "loved", sooner than later?

Also, what is 'sooner' than 'later' actually in relation to, REALLY?

If any human being so calls "dies" later than one minute from now, then that means that they obviously "died" 'later' than 'sooner'. In all honesty is anyone looking to lose loved ones 'later' than 'sooner' either?

Why don't the likes of you just shut the fuck up with your pathetic waste of space ramblings.

What is it exactly that i have said that has hit that nerve in you, which I was aiming for anyway by the way?

Are you even able to express what you do not like or disagree with in what I said? Or, are you completely incapable of doing that, or are you only capable of talking the way you have here?

What does 'the likes of you' even actually mean?

Let us see if you even capable of putting this into words, which are not just a, what you call, "waste of space ramblings", itself?

Are you one of those people who also expects those that you love, will live forever? I suggest that just accepting that they are going to die, and If it 30 years from when I wrote these words or within 30 seconds from when you read this, then that it does not really matter. Or, is that what you love really the only things that care about? Are you under some sort of illusion that 'that' was in relation to 'you', is of some actual importance?

[Age]

It scares people because humans don't have any immunity to it. I've never had 'seasonal flu' in my life because I suppose I must be immune to it.

What do you mean "humans do not have any immunity to corona virus"?

Did you just mean 'some' humans do not have any immunity to corona virus? Or, did you actually really mean ALL humans do not have any immunity to corona virus? Or, did you mean some thing else?

I mean humans don't have immunity to covid-19.

So, to you, those humans who do actually have an immunity to covid-19 do not exist?

[Scott Mayers]

Viruses are relatively inescapable. The Coronavirus is a unique type that survives longer than most because it has three general layers of protection that allow it to exist outside of a biological system longer. They are not 'living' and so these types that survive longer are prone to easy contagion through the air while most die sooner.

All of us will likely get it at some point. The concern is to its rate of sudden impact on our species that has not had time enough to develop general recognition by our gene pool. So unfortunately, it will end up killing some of us off regardless. The means of safety precautions helps to extend the lives of those who would still likely die from it should they catch it later anyways. But it also gives us time to see if we can find a potential vaccine.

Note that the yearly flu shots we get have more than one vaccine sometimes and are usually only TEMPORARY. That is, they need a boost every so often. The selected shot vaccine for a year and location covers those particular contemporary threats known to exist already in the population. So we don't technically become 'immune' to many of these more potent viruses permanently.

In some way, I'm reminded of South Park's episode (2rd Season?) where the kids overheard one of the parents suggest purposely getting all their kids together to catch the Chicken Pox virus. The rationale is that kids are normally less sick before the immunity kicks in while late infection causes more severe cases which, for some, never get complete immunity for the rest of their lives. Anyways, the boys, confused at their parent's apparent 'evil', thought to get back at their parents by hiring a hooker who had Herpes to come into their homes to infect the utensils and tooth brushes of their parents!!

The funny thing is that it may be just as wise to LET us get infected for the same rationale. But it would be good to wait for the pandemic to be over before being too quick to accept if only for the risk it has on those we might still care for who are at more risk of dying sooner rather than later.

South Park "Chickenpox" episode link: Wikipedia. There are official links to this on Google but they are strongly protected and based on country identity for ISP regions. So I'll let you guys try to find one on your own that might work.

[attofishpi]

PLANET NEEDS TO SHUTDOWN 4 1 MONTH

[Dontaskme]

I mean humans don't have immunity to covid-19.

There is no human immunity to any virus. The human body will do it's best to fight of the invaders, but it will never eradicate them entirely.Viruses are the most abundant biological entity on the planet. They will eventually rule the world and will ultimately be the cause of human and some other mammals extinction. There is nowhere or point that our viruses can be totally cut off at the root because they already exist within the biology that is life on earth and will continue to do so forever because they are the little blighters that don't give a damn about you as long as they survive. And maybe they are very angry at us for always trying to kill them with anti-bacterial wipes. So in revenge they've maybe decided to wage a war on us ..saying fuck you humans!

Best to just suck it all up and enjoy the short window that is your brief appearance here as a human entity. Best to just treat everyday in your life like everyday is the first day of the rest of your life, and then live like your first day is your last. No one ever worried them-self to death in death.

Meanwhile...I'm off to the shops to get some more stuff to fill up my larder just a wee bit more...see ya!

PS, Most viruses once they are in the human body, they become dormant, and stay put anyway, so no chance of ridding them ever once they are in the body. Our bodies are already walking talking, living breathing petri dishes.

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[henry quirk]

''carona won't come near the flu in mortality.''

I don't know how you work that out. The mortality rate in the old is close to 15 percent, but overall it's estimated at 2 percent (conservative). Seasonal flu is .1 percent. That makes covid-19 20 times deadlier. There is also a vaccine for seasonal flu. I suppose only the rich can get it in your country though.

Mortality rates don't get pinned down during, only after.

Simply: we have incomplete data with which we can mebbe make some educated guesses, but no hard declarations.

As for flu vaccinations: anyone here who wants one can get one. They're inexpensive.

Again: Wash your hands, stop bein' so touch-feely with others, consult your doc if you're worried, stop lookin' to gov for solutions and calm down.

[henry quirk]

Not seein' mistakes on my part: even worst case, carona won't come near the flu in mortality.

Calm down & carry on is exactly what the talkin' heads ought to be sayin'.

This kind of ignorance fills up hospitals first, then graveyards.

"Calm down & carry on" is what China, Italy, Germany and Spain did at first.

There is now weak evidence that people can be asymptomatic carriers of the virus which means all of our "reporting" is under-estimated. It also means that you will survive, but you will infect others who might not be so lucky.

So DON'T carry on!. DO over-react. DON'T panic. Minimise contact with others. Work from home if you can. Shut down public gatherings. All of those are necessary and effective over-reactions.

When all your hospitals and ICU wards fill up with COVID-19 patients, guess who's going to start dying next? All those people who need emergency medical care (for all other reasons that are not related to COVID), but can't get it!

Don't carry on. Over-react. Flatten the curve.

Again: Wash your hands, stop bein' so touch-feely with others, consult your doc if you're worried, stop lookin' to gov for solutions and calm down.

[Dontaskme]

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The problem with the stay away strategy is like a game of whack-a-mole. Eventually the mole has to come up for air, so who do you think will be around to see the last mole die? God only knows.

It is what it is...

I AM the first and the last.

I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End ~ Revelation 22:13

[henry quirk]

I just watched Deuche Welle news (or whatever its called - German) and there is a company in Germany (CureVac) that specialise in RNA viruses (covid 19 interfaces to RNA) ...and they are looking at testing a vaccine by June\July.

They recently received a request from Trump to buy them out and provision the use of the vaccine in THE US ONLY!!

What a shower of kunts.

The company quite rightly told them to fuck off.

Seriously? That's got to be the most depraved thing I've ever heard. Trump is being a complete ass if he's trying to do that.

Don't believe everything you read, especially without the context.

[Dontaskme]

Don't believe everything you read, especially without the context.

Or anything you see.

The best leadership ever discovered is still '' Monkey see, Monkey do!

No one has ever been alive before, we're all infants in the grand scheme of things. No one really knows what they are doing, except those who pretend.

[Dontaskme]

Why don't the likes of you just shut the fuck up with your pathetic waste of space ramblings.

Why don't you eat several bog rolls to help mop up the diarrhea that comes out of your mouth from having shit for brains.



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[henry quirk]

https://newcriterion.com/blogs/dispatch ... ed-to-what

Compared to what?
by Heather Mac Donald

On the misguided response to covid-19.

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Compared to what? That should be the question that every fear-mongering news story on the coronavirus has to start with. So far, the United States has seen forty-one deaths from the infection. Twenty-two of those deaths occurred in one poorly run nursing home outside of Seattle, the Life Care Center. Another nine deaths occurred in the rest of Washington state, leaving ten deaths (four in California, two in Florida, and one in each of Georgia, Kansas, New Jersey, and South Dakota) spread throughout the rest of the approximately 329 million residents of the United States. This represents roughly .000012 percent of the U.S. population.

Much has been made of the “exponential” rate of infection in European and Asian countries—as if the spread of all transmittable diseases did not develop along geometric, as opposed to arithmetic, growth patterns. What actually matters is whether or not the growing “pandemic” overwhelms our ability to ensure the well-being of U.S. residents with efficiency and precision. But fear of the disease, and not the disease itself, has already spoiled that for us. Even if my odds of dying from coronavirus should suddenly jump ten-thousand-fold, from the current rate of .000012 percent across the U.S. population all the way up to .12 percent, I’d happily take those odds over the destruction being wrought on the U.S. and global economy from this unbridled panic.

By comparison, there were 38,800 traffic fatalities in the United States in 2019, the National Safety Council estimates. That represents an average of over one hundred traffic deaths every day; if the press catalogued these in as much painstaking detail as they have deaths from coronavirus, highways nationwide would be as empty as New York subways are now. Even assuming that coronavirus deaths in the United States increase by a factor of one thousand over the year, the resulting deaths would only outnumber annual traffic deaths by 2,200. Shutting down highways would have a much more positive effect on the U.S. mortality rate than shutting down the U.S. economy to try to prevent the spread of the virus.

There have been 5,123 deaths worldwide so far—also a fraction of traffic deaths worldwide. And unlike coronavirus, driving kills indiscriminately, mowing down the young and the old, the sick and the healthy. The coronavirus, by comparison, is targeted in its lethality, overwhelmingly striking the elderly or the already severely sick. As of Monday, approximately 89 percent of Italy’s coronavirus deaths had been over the age of seventy, according to The Wall Street Journal. Sad to say, those victims were already nearing the end of their lifespans. They might have soon died from another illness. No child under the age of nine has died from the illness worldwide. In China, only one individual in the ten-to-nineteen age group has succumbed.

Comparing the relative value of lives makes for grisly calculus, but one is forced to ask: are we missing the forest for the trees? If the measures we undertake to protect a vulnerable few end up exposing them, along with the rest of society, to even more damaging risks—was it worth the cost?

An example: there were 34,200 deaths in the United States during the 2018–19 influenza season, estimates the cdc. We did not shut down public events and institutions to try to slow the spread of the flu. Yet we have already destroyed $5 trillion in stock market wealth over the last few weeks in the growing coronavirus panic, reports The New York Times, wiping out retirement savings for many.

The number of cases in most afflicted countries is paltry. As of today, 127 countries had reported some cases, but forty-eight of those countries had fewer than ten cases, according to Worldometer. At this point, more people have recovered from the virus than are still sick. But the damage to people’s livelihoods through the resulting economic contraction is real and widespread. Its health consequences will be more severe than those of the coronavirus, as Steve Malanga shows in City Journal. The people who can least afford to lose jobs will be the hardest hit by the assault on tourism. Small entrepreneurs, whether in manufacturing or the service sector, will struggle to stay afloat. Such unjustified, unpredicted economic havoc undermines government legitimacy.

President Trump has been criticized for not being apocalyptic enough in his press conferences. In fact, he should be even more skeptical of the panic than he has been. He should relentlessly put the coronavirus risk into context with opioid deaths, homicide deaths—about sixteen thousand a year in the United States—flu deaths, and traffic deaths. One might have thought New York governor Andrew Cuomo a voice of reason when, a few days ago, he tried to tamp down the hysteria in a press conference, saying: “This is not Ebola, this is not sars, this is not some science fiction movie come to life. The hysteria here is way out of line with the actuality and the facts.” And yet since then he called a state of emergency in New York, and he and Mayor Bill de Blasio have all but shut down the New York City economy. They, like most all U.S. politicians nowadays, have shown an overwhelming impulse to be irrationally risk-averse.

Rather than indiscriminately shutting down public events and travel, we should target prevention where it is most needed: in nursing homes and hospitals.

It is hard to imagine that the panicked leaders and populace of today would have been able to triumph in the last century’s World Wars. America’s colleges sent off thousands of their young men to fight and die in those wars; those students went off with conviction and courage. Currently, colleges and universities are shutting down with no hint of the virus in their vicinity. Would today’s panicked leaders and populace be able to triumph in the face of a World War, or some other legitimately comparable threat? Let’s hope that we do not have to find out.
Heather Mac Donald is the Thomas W. Smith fellow at the Manhattan Institute and author of The Diversity Delusion (St. Martin’s Press) and The War on Cops (Encounter).

[commonsense]

What do you mean "humans do not have any immunity to corona virus"?

Did you just mean 'some' humans do not have any immunity to corona virus? Or, did you actually really mean ALL humans do not have any immunity to corona virus? Or, did you mean some thing else?

I mean humans don't have immunity to covid-19.

So, to you, those humans who do actually have an immunity to covid-19 do not exist?

Those humans who have recovered from Covid 19 will have a natural immunity to the virus that made them ill.