the core irony of mental health

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Re: the core irony of mental health

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Impenitent wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2026 8:19 pm life is but a joke...

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Why was the skeleton 💀 lonely, because it had no body to hang out with, so it hung out with its mind, what mind, oh yeah, that mind, don’t mind me. Lol
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Re: the core irony of mental health

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Gary Childress wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2026 3:37 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2026 5:51 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2026 1:20 am

There are such things as hallucinations and delusions. Hallucination and delusion conflict with reality. Insanity is a thought or perception that conflicts with reality.
Last time I checked reality is conflict so by that degree hallucinations and delusions are a normal part of it and by default are actual revelations of it.
Reality is not always conflict, and not everyone has hallucinations or delusions, and few, if any, always have hallucinations and delusions. Common sense tells us that. Even you believe in common sense; if you didn't, then you would not still be alive, and you know this. It is futile to deny common sense. It's self-deception to pretend otherwise.
When full, the visible moon appears to be just a flat disc.
That perception is neither hallucination, nor delusion, and in reality the visible moon is not just a flat disc.

You know the moon is not a flat disc, but this is not because of your analysis of sensory evidence.
You know the moon is not a flat disc, but not because of common sense.

You know the moon is not a flat disc because you learned and accepted second-hand knowledge.
Your reasons for accepting vary, which is not to say illegitimate.

Some early theoretical physicist first made an accurate interpretation of sensory evidence that concluded the flat disc moon is an illusion,
not a delusion, not a hallucination,
an interpretation that time verified with subsequent devices.
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Re: the core irony of mental health

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Walker wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2026 9:40 am
Gary Childress wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2026 3:37 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2026 5:51 pm

Last time I checked reality is conflict so by that degree hallucinations and delusions are a normal part of it and by default are actual revelations of it.
Reality is not always conflict, and not everyone has hallucinations or delusions, and few, if any, always have hallucinations and delusions. Common sense tells us that. Even you believe in common sense; if you didn't, then you would not still be alive, and you know this. It is futile to deny common sense. It's self-deception to pretend otherwise.
When full, the visible moon appears to be just a flat disc.
That perception is neither hallucination, nor delusion, and in reality the visible moon is not just a flat disc.

You know the moon is not a flat disc, but this is not because of your analysis of sensory evidence.
You know the moon is not a flat disc, but not because of common sense.

You know the moon is not a flat disc because you learned and accepted second-hand knowledge.
Your reasons for accepting vary, which is not to say illegitimate.

Some early theoretical physicist first made an accurate interpretation of sensory evidence that concluded the flat disc moon is an illusion,
not a delusion, not a hallucination,
an interpretation that time verified with subsequent devices.
Please don't bother to contribute your irrelevant stupidity to this discussion, Walker. There's no need. It's counterproductive.
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Re: the core irony of mental health

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Gary Childress wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2026 4:17 pm
Please don't bother to contribute your irrelevant stupidity to this discussion, Walker. There's no need. It's counterproductive.
I didn't know Walker made kitchen parts

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Re: the core irony of mental health

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Impenitent wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2026 8:00 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2026 4:17 pm
Please don't bother to contribute your irrelevant stupidity to this discussion, Walker. There's no need. It's counterproductive.
I didn't know Walker made kitchen parts

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He is the creator of numbers.
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Re: the core irony of mental health

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Gary Childress wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2026 4:17 pm
Please don't bother to contribute your irrelevant stupidity to this discussion, Walker. There's no need. It's counterproductive.
So, this is the place for relevant stupidity?
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Re: the core irony of mental health

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Gary Childress wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2026 4:17 pm
Please don't bother to contribute your irrelevant stupidity to this discussion, Walker. There's no need. It's counterproductive.
So, this is the place that quaffs your thirst for relevant stupidity?

If it exists, there's a need for it.
That's pretty basic, Gary.

You should have picked up on that by now.

Why do you need relevant stupidity?

:D
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Re: the core irony of mental health

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Walker wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2026 12:22 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2026 4:17 pm
Please don't bother to contribute your irrelevant stupidity to this discussion, Walker. There's no need. It's counterproductive.
So, this is the place that quaffs your thirst for relevant stupidity?

If it exists, there's a need for it.
That's pretty basic, Gary.

You should have picked up on that by now.

Why do you need relevant stupidity?

:D
ignorance is bliss

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Re: the core irony of mental health

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Bliss is the default that ignorance hides as cleverly as the little delayed x that hides ads.
Barring halitosis, mental illness defining mental healthiness is ironic because like breathing, mental health gets noticed by its absence.
Mental illness is like theoretical socialism placing qualitative judgments upon the proven US Constitution.

Objectively speaking:
Irony … Everything that doesn’t need to exist, doesn’t exist. (Example: functional socialism).
Core Irony … Mental health is noticed by its absence, like breathing. (like fairness, once upon a time).

Conclusion:
Light shines brightest in the dimness.

:D
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Re: the core irony of mental health

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Fairy wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2026 5:23 am
Impenitent wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2026 8:00 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2026 4:17 pm
Please don't bother to contribute your irrelevant stupidity to this discussion, Walker. There's no need. It's counterproductive.
I didn't know Walker made kitchen parts

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He is the creator of numbers.
Creating them all literally takes forever and that's not even counting the custom jobs.
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Re: the core irony of mental health

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Apparently, Walker's "common sense" tells him, as of July 2026, that the moon is a flat disc and not a sphere. I guess we really can't rely on common sense to inform us about anything. Or maybe it's more the case that we can't specifically rely on Walker's common sense to inform us about anything. One wonders, and it boggles the imagination.

I give up. The "sane" people like Walker have won. I'll just go to the asylum where I apparently belong.
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