I did an edit while you were thanking me (you're quite welcome), so can you please verify that you are also thanking me for the insightful, accurate, and pertinent edit that you likely didn't see, when thanking? (We'll see if the magic word works).Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 12:23 pmOK. Thank you for your reply.Walker wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 12:22 pm"Peaceful multi-polar world," is a conceptual ideal that only manifests locally and temporarily, but not forevermore in reality.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 12:06 pm It seems to me that the most important thing to do right now is to deescalate hostilities somehow and work toward peaceful transition of our world from a hegemony into a multi-polar world.
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Your edit is fair enough. As long as it's done through peaceful negotiations.Walker wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 12:26 pmI did an edit while you were thanking me (you're quite welcome), so can you please verify that you are also thanking me for the insightful, accurate, and pertinent edit that you likely didn't see, when thanking? (We'll see if the magic word works).
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Is this the edit you are referencing ... just to be clear about what must be done in the world for your large-scale ambition to be realized.
Walker wrote:"Peaceful multi-polar world," is a conceptual ideal that only manifests locally and temporarily, but not forevermore in reality. Working towards the ideal is currently underway in Persia by taking away the tools of terror, although taking it from minds is the actual necessity.
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For how many years must negotiations go on, that includes the capacity to fund proxy terrorists during peaceful negotiations, before changing tactics?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 12:28 pmYour edit is fair enough. As long as it's done through peaceful negotiations.
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If tactics are going to be changed, then bullying with military force probably should not be among the choices at all. Like it or not, diplomacy is an art that we need to get good at. But maybe Trump can pull it off.Walker wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 12:32 pmFor how many years must negotiations go on, before changing tactics?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 12:28 pmYour edit is fair enough. As long as it's done through peaceful negotiations.
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Have you not noticed the current diplomatic volatility of the diplomatic negotiations in the Iranian War that Iran effectively declared forty-seven years ago?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 12:37 pmIf tactics are going to be changed, then bullying with military force probably should not be among the choices at all. Like it or not, diplomacy is an art that we need to get good at. But maybe Trump can pull it off.Walker wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 12:32 pmFor how many years must negotiations go on, before changing tactics?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 12:28 pm
Your edit is fair enough. As long as it's done through peaceful negotiations.
When the media announces that Tehran said this, or Iran said that, keep in mind that power to speak for Iran is in flux, without an internal consensus about what should be said.
That's why the cease-fires are often broken. This is going to happen because when lying is foundational to a theocratic government, the negotiators lose the capacity to apprehend mutual benefit in negotiations because after all, benefiting the Great Satan and Little Satan would be wrong.
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When you have two liars negotiating and a genocidal country like Israel involved, there are going to be problems.That's why the cease-fires are often broken. This is going to happen because when lying is foundational to a theocratic government, the negotiators lose the capacity to apprehend mutual benefit in negotiations because after all, benefiting the Great Satan and Little Satan would be wrong.
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Well, the government is fragmented and in flux. But who is responsible for that after killing their heads of state? If Iran is in flux, then Trump had better hope that Iran pulls itself together into something that will seek peace. If he's going to be a good president, then he'll have to own his mistakes. But, Trump is unpredictable. Maybe he can do a magic act and turn into a peace maker. However, he's made his own job more difficult.Walker wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 12:52 pmHave you not noticed the current diplomatic volatility of the diplomatic negotiations in the Iranian War that Iran effectively declared forty-seven years ago?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 12:37 pmIf tactics are going to be changed, then bullying with military force probably should not be among the choices at all. Like it or not, diplomacy is an art that we need to get good at. But maybe Trump can pull it off.
When the media announces that Tehran said this, or Iran said that, keep in mind that power to speak for Iran is in flux, without an internal consensus about what should be said.
That's why the cease-fires are often broken. This is going to happen because when lying is foundational to a theocratic government, the negotiators lose the capacity to apprehend mutual benefit in negotiations because after all, benefiting the Great Satan and Little Satan would be wrong.
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Your government is becoming increasingly theocratic and is a source of endless lies. The first thing Trump did on the first day of his first presidency was lie about how many people attended his inauguration. He's lied every day since.Walker wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 12:52 pm That's why the cease-fires are often broken. This is going to happen because when lying is foundational to a theocratic government, the negotiators lose the capacity to apprehend mutual benefit in negotiations because after all, benefiting the Great Satan and Little Satan would be wrong.
And he hasn't honoured a single deal. He just tears them up. Nobody believes the USA will comply with a trade deal while Trump is president. Nobody believes he is good for a ceasefire either. You can't behave like Trump and expect to also retain credibility.
The sheer audacity of you of all people throwing shade for dishonesty is quite breath-taking.