US and Israel attack Iran

[Walker]

It seems to me that the most important thing to do right now is to deescalate hostilities somehow and work toward peaceful transition of our world from a hegemony into a multi-polar world.

"Peaceful multi-polar world," is a conceptual ideal that only manifests locally and temporarily, but not forevermore in reality.

OK. Thank you for your reply.

I did an edit while you were thanking me (you're quite welcome), so can you please verify that you are also thanking me for the insightful, accurate, and pertinent edit that you likely didn't see, when thanking? (We'll see if the magic word works).

[Gary Childress]

"Peaceful multi-polar world," is a conceptual ideal that only manifests locally and temporarily, but not forevermore in reality.

OK. Thank you for your reply.

I did an edit while you were thanking me (you're quite welcome), so can you please verify that you are also thanking me for the insightful, accurate, and pertinent edit that you likely didn't see, when thanking? (We'll see if the magic word works).

Your edit is fair enough. As long as it's done through peaceful negotiations.

[Walker]

Is this the edit you are referencing ... just to be clear about what must be done in the world for your large-scale ambition to be realized.

"Peaceful multi-polar world," is a conceptual ideal that only manifests locally and temporarily, but not forevermore in reality. Working towards the ideal is currently underway in Persia by taking away the tools of terror, although taking it from minds is the actual necessity.

[Walker]

OK. Thank you for your reply.

I did an edit while you were thanking me (you're quite welcome), so can you please verify that you are also thanking me for the insightful, accurate, and pertinent edit that you likely didn't see, when thanking? (We'll see if the magic word works).

Your edit is fair enough. As long as it's done through peaceful negotiations.

For how many years must negotiations go on, that includes the capacity to fund proxy terrorists during peaceful negotiations, before changing tactics?

[Gary Childress]

I did an edit while you were thanking me (you're quite welcome), so can you please verify that you are also thanking me for the insightful, accurate, and pertinent edit that you likely didn't see, when thanking? (We'll see if the magic word works).

Your edit is fair enough. As long as it's done through peaceful negotiations.

For how many years must negotiations go on, before changing tactics?

If tactics are going to be changed, then bullying with military force probably should not be among the choices at all. Like it or not, diplomacy is an art that we need to get good at. But maybe Trump can pull it off.

[Walker]

Your edit is fair enough. As long as it's done through peaceful negotiations.

For how many years must negotiations go on, before changing tactics?

If tactics are going to be changed, then bullying with military force probably should not be among the choices at all. Like it or not, diplomacy is an art that we need to get good at. But maybe Trump can pull it off.

Have you not noticed the current diplomatic volatility of the diplomatic negotiations in the Iranian War that Iran effectively declared forty-seven years ago?

When the media announces that Tehran said this, or Iran said that, keep in mind that power to speak for Iran is in flux, without an internal consensus about what should be said.

That's why the cease-fires are often broken. This is going to happen because when lying is foundational to a theocratic government, the negotiators lose the capacity to apprehend mutual benefit in negotiations because after all, benefiting the Great Satan and Little Satan would be wrong.

[phyllo]

That's why the cease-fires are often broken. This is going to happen because when lying is foundational to a theocratic government, the negotiators lose the capacity to apprehend mutual benefit in negotiations because after all, benefiting the Great Satan and Little Satan would be wrong.

When you have two liars negotiating and a genocidal country like Israel involved, there are going to be problems.

[Gary Childress]

For how many years must negotiations go on, before changing tactics?

If tactics are going to be changed, then bullying with military force probably should not be among the choices at all. Like it or not, diplomacy is an art that we need to get good at. But maybe Trump can pull it off.

Have you not noticed the current diplomatic volatility of the diplomatic negotiations in the Iranian War that Iran effectively declared forty-seven years ago?

When the media announces that Tehran said this, or Iran said that, keep in mind that power to speak for Iran is in flux, without an internal consensus about what should be said.

That's why the cease-fires are often broken. This is going to happen because when lying is foundational to a theocratic government, the negotiators lose the capacity to apprehend mutual benefit in negotiations because after all, benefiting the Great Satan and Little Satan would be wrong.

Well, the government is fragmented and in flux. But who is responsible for that after killing their heads of state? If Iran is in flux, then Trump had better hope that Iran pulls itself together into something that will seek peace. If he's going to be a good president, then he'll have to own his mistakes. But, Trump is unpredictable. Maybe he can do a magic act and turn into a peace maker. However, he's made his own job more difficult.

[FlashDangerpants]

That's why the cease-fires are often broken. This is going to happen because when lying is foundational to a theocratic government, the negotiators lose the capacity to apprehend mutual benefit in negotiations because after all, benefiting the Great Satan and Little Satan would be wrong.

Your government is becoming increasingly theocratic and is a source of endless lies. The first thing Trump did on the first day of his first presidency was lie about how many people attended his inauguration. He's lied every day since.

And he hasn't honoured a single deal. He just tears them up. Nobody believes the USA will comply with a trade deal while Trump is president. Nobody believes he is good for a ceasefire either. You can't behave like Trump and expect to also retain credibility.

The sheer audacity of you of all people throwing shade for dishonesty is quite breath-taking.

[Walker]

Speaking of numbers, and turning attention to what's important ...

The willful blindness of Western media.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/bl ... ern-media/

"It is clear to me that my 40,000 brave, innocent compatriots who were slaughtered in the fight for liberty are of little interest to these journalists. They seem more interested in criticizing America and asking why the United States and Israel killed the dictator that has slaughtered our people for 47 YEARS — than criticizing the regime doing the slaughtering."

[phyllo]

An unbiased report from the "Iranian prince in exile".

America put his family in power. It may do the same for him personally.

The abuses of the Shah are one reason why the religious extremists are in power in Iran now.

[Walker]

There can be only One … Supreme Importance.

All the other importances fall in line behind the One Supreme Importance.

For some, the Supreme Importance is their big but, especially in these fructose times.

(If an Iranian is not biased about 40,000 innocent civilians slaughtered by the regime, he would be a bit of a psycho, perhaps a monster. One need not be Iranian to be biased about such a thing. Supreme Importance could be called ... Supreme Bias.)

[Walker]

I think the reality is, Iran better hope to pull itself together.

Trump is going to be persecuted no matter what he does.

Haven't you realized that by now? Of course you have.

[phyllo]

There can be only One … Supreme Importance.

All the other importances fall in line behind the One Supreme Importance.

For some, the Supreme Importance is their big but, especially in these fructose times.

(If an Iranian is not biased about 40,000 innocent civilians slaughtered by the regime, he would be a bit of a psycho, perhaps a monster. One need not be Iranian to be biased about such a thing. Supreme Importance could be called ... Supreme Bias.)

The Islamic regime is awful, therefore do not criticize America. Got it.

[Iwannaplato]

Trump is going to be persecuted no matter what he does.

And he will be defended by some of the very people he lied to most, his own constituents. Other have left him and if he continues in the same vein, even more will.