US and Israel attack Iran

[Gary Childress]

Trump needs to do the world a favor and resign. Or go jump off a cliff.

[FlashDangerpants]

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/28/worl ... menei.html

it seems that the leaders of Iran have left the building

-Imp

So how's that working out for ya?

[FlashDangerpants]

Trump needs to do the world a favor and resign. Or go jump off a cliff.

Don't worry, his mortal enemy Ronald McDonald will finish him off soon.

[Impenitent]

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/28/worl ... menei.html

it seems that the leaders of Iran have left the building

-Imp

So how's that working out for ya?

left a wonderful vacuum for the people of Iran to rise up and fill...

will they?

-Imp

[Iwannaplato]

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/28/worl ... menei.html

it seems that the leaders of Iran have left the building

-Imp

So how's that working out for ya?

left a wonderful vacuum for the people of Iran to rise up and fill...

will they?

-Imp

Yup, a wonderful vaccuum? Perhaps, perhaps not. Perhaps not even close.

[FlashDangerpants]

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/28/worl ... menei.html

it seems that the leaders of Iran have left the building

-Imp

So how's that working out for ya?

left a wonderful vacuum for the people of Iran to rise up and fill...

will they?

-Imp

I wonder how much a barrel of oil would need to cost for that to backfire and create a wonderful vacuumfor the people of America to rise up and fill.

[phyllo]

I wonder how much a barrel of oil would need to cost for that to backfire and create a wonderful vacuumfor the people of America to rise up and fill.

Some "friendly" and "helpful" country would need to take it upon itself to save the world and bomb the White House and Mar-a-Lago.

[phyllo]

Warmongers succeed in sucking more countries into the conflict.

We condemn in the strongest terms recent attacks by Iran on unarmed commercial vessels in the Gulf, attacks on civilian infrastructure including oil and gas installations, and the de facto closure of the Strait of Hormuz by Iranian forces.

We express our deep concern about the escalating conflict. We call on Iran to cease immediately its threats, laying of mines, drone and missile attacks and other attempts to block the Strait to commercial shipping, and to comply with UN Security Council Resolution 2817.

Freedom of navigation is a fundamental principle of international law, including under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.

The effects of Iran’s actions will be felt by people in all parts of the world, especially the most vulnerable.

Consistent with UNSC Resolution 2817, we emphasise that such interference with international shipping and the disruption of global energy supply chains constitute a threat to international peace and security. In this regard, we call for an immediate comprehensive moratorium on attacks on civilian infrastructure, including oil and gas installations.

We express our readiness to contribute to appropriate efforts to ensure safe passage through the Strait. We welcome the commitment of nations who are engaging in preparatory planning.

We welcome the International Energy Agency decision to authorise a coordinated release of strategic petroleum reserves. We will take other steps to stabilise energy markets, including working with certain producing nations to increase output.

We will also work to provide support for the most affected nations, including through the United Nations and the IFIs.

Maritime security and freedom of navigation benefit all countries. We call on all states to respect international law and uphold the fundamental principles of international prosperity and security.

[seeds]

Warmongers succeed in sucking more countries into the conflict.

We condemn in the strongest terms recent attacks by Iran on unarmed commercial vessels in the Gulf, attacks on civilian infrastructure including oil and gas installations, and the de facto closure of the Strait of Hormuz by Iranian forces.

We express our deep concern about the escalating conflict. We call on Iran to cease immediately its threats, laying of mines, drone and missile attacks and other attempts to block the Strait to commercial shipping, and to comply with UN Security Council Resolution 2817.

Freedom of navigation is a fundamental principle of international law, including under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.

The effects of Iran’s actions will be felt by people in all parts of the world, especially the most vulnerable.

Consistent with UNSC Resolution 2817, we emphasise that such interference with international shipping and the disruption of global energy supply chains constitute a threat to international peace and security. In this regard, we call for an immediate comprehensive moratorium on attacks on civilian infrastructure, including oil and gas installations.

We express our readiness to contribute to appropriate efforts to ensure safe passage through the Strait. We welcome the commitment of nations who are engaging in preparatory planning.

We welcome the International Energy Agency decision to authorise a coordinated release of strategic petroleum reserves. We will take other steps to stabilise energy markets, including working with certain producing nations to increase output.

We will also work to provide support for the most affected nations, including through the United Nations and the IFIs.

Maritime security and freedom of navigation benefit all countries. We call on all states to respect international law and uphold the fundamental principles of international prosperity and security.

It is utterly ridiculous that the signatories of that recent statement,...

(which, according to Copilot, were the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Japan, and Canada)

...only condemn Iran while making no mention of the "warmongers" (the U.S. and Israel) who created the mess to begin with.
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[Gary Childress]

Warmongers succeed in sucking more countries into the conflict.

We condemn in the strongest terms recent attacks by Iran on unarmed commercial vessels in the Gulf, attacks on civilian infrastructure including oil and gas installations, and the de facto closure of the Strait of Hormuz by Iranian forces.

We express our deep concern about the escalating conflict. We call on Iran to cease immediately its threats, laying of mines, drone and missile attacks and other attempts to block the Strait to commercial shipping, and to comply with UN Security Council Resolution 2817.

Freedom of navigation is a fundamental principle of international law, including under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.

The effects of Iran’s actions will be felt by people in all parts of the world, especially the most vulnerable.

Consistent with UNSC Resolution 2817, we emphasise that such interference with international shipping and the disruption of global energy supply chains constitute a threat to international peace and security. In this regard, we call for an immediate comprehensive moratorium on attacks on civilian infrastructure, including oil and gas installations.

We express our readiness to contribute to appropriate efforts to ensure safe passage through the Strait. We welcome the commitment of nations who are engaging in preparatory planning.

We welcome the International Energy Agency decision to authorise a coordinated release of strategic petroleum reserves. We will take other steps to stabilise energy markets, including working with certain producing nations to increase output.

We will also work to provide support for the most affected nations, including through the United Nations and the IFIs.

Maritime security and freedom of navigation benefit all countries. We call on all states to respect international law and uphold the fundamental principles of international prosperity and security.

It is utterly ridiculous that the signatories of that recent statement,...

(which, according to Copilot, were the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Japan, and Canada)

...only condemn Iran while making no mention of the "warmongers" (the U.S. and Israel) who created the mess to begin with.
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War is such a ridiculous waste. Smack my head every time we get tangled up in one (which is basically ALL THE TIME). Will some leaders ever learn to behave?

[puto]

Cherry picking your conclusion. Behavior: A recurring event, in Psychology. Learning, history will inform you that we are living in the most non-violent period in history of war and conflicts. Your attempt at infinite regress implies further justification, which is never actually completed. Remember that the Devil would not bow to Jesus of the New Testament in the Bible. So, who is competing for power? I never read a Neorealism summary from Childress. So, what is, "The Balance of Power?" Modus Tollens is denying the result and is necessary for the result. Look at the World as it actually is rather than how it ought to be. Remember in your ought, God created only good things. Free will is, "The ability to do otherwise." Evil is a defect, that God did not create. Evil is the corruption, or absence of good, Augustine of Hippo, Privatio Boni.

[Iwannaplato]

Learning, history will inform you that we are living in the most non-violent period in history of war and conflicts.

Not really...Post WW2 there was a long pause, and a significant leaning towards peace in general on the planet. But the last ten years has been a serious countertrend.

But in a sense what you said isn't really a response to what Gary said...
Here's what Gary said....

War is such a ridiculous waste. Smack my head every time we get tangled up in one (which is basically ALL THE TIME).

In the last 126 years (1900–2026), the United States has spent approximately 7 to 9 years not involved in a war or military conflict, depending on how strictly "military conflict" is defined.

If you include all formal wars, "policing actions," and the numerous military interventions in Latin America (such as the Banana Wars), the U.S. has been at peace for roughly 6% of that timeframe.

Seems a reasonable lament on his part.

What you wrote wouldn't counter what he said, even without the recent serious uptick in conflict.

[phyllo]

Learning, history will inform you that we are living in the most non-violent period in history of war and conflicts.

Tell that to the war dead and their families.

And to those displaced by war. And those who lost their homes and possessions.

No doubt, they will be comforted.

[puto]

Philosophy.

[phyllo]

Real Life