YOU ARE NOT AN INDIVIDUAL!

[Age]

It's not semantics to a person having a self revealing dialogue in a cave alone.

I agree with that statement. Self introspection reveals I cannot experience my own absence.

And, 'this' is just because the 'I' is never so-called 'absent'.

I must have always existed in one form or another.

'I' always exist in the form of 'body', the visible Universe, and 'Spirit', the invisible Mind.

This is all poetry anyway - ''The desire to know your own soul will end all other desires''
~Rumi

And, the knowing of what is Falsely claimed as, 'your own soul', ended with the search for all of 'the other answers' to all of 'the other Truly meaningful questions', in Life.

To distinguish what you are not you arrive at what you are. You can be, but you cannot not be.

Have 'you' "fairy" yet distinguished what 'you' are not, from, what 'you' are?

If yes, then will 'you' provide 'your answer', here, for 'us' to 'look at', and 'see'?

If no, then why not, exactly?

That's my definition of Individual, and I'm keeping it.

you appear to have missed the whole point of 'this thread'.

'you' are not an individual. Whereas, 'I' am an individual. And, what is 'an individual', exactly, has not, yet, been defined, by 'you', here.

[Fairy]

NONSENSE.

Beyond right and wrong there Is a Field , I will meet you there . ~ Rumi
This Field is pure Love and pure Awareness.

[Age]

It's not semantics to a person having a self revealing dialogue in a cave alone.

I agree with that statement. Self introspection reveals I cannot experience my own absence. I must have always existed in one form or another.

This is all poetry anyway - ''The desire to know your own soul will end all other desires''
~Rumi

To distinguish what you are not you arrive at what you are. You can be, but you cannot not be.

That's my definition of Individual, and I'm keeping it.

That is where it gets interesting.

Through introspection the self becomes interacting symbols that are thetical and antithetical, one could say light and dark and various grades that reflect this nature, the presence of one symbol is observed as absent within the other symbol, thus the actualized self is aware of its potential, what it is not and what it is not provides the contrast for what it is.

The limits of the self encapsulate what it is not thus relegating each part of the self as a relative absence of what it could be thus the self is ignorant of itself due to the potentiality it is aware of, in being aware of one's potentiality one is aware of the limits of their awareness...an awareness of an absence of the self in some degree or another.

We are the absence of ourselves thus we can only be seen as but a process.

Here, is another prime example of when one does not yet actually know what the 'self' is, exactly, and how when having a very limited view and perspective of things 'clouds' what 'it' can see, understand, and know.

[Fairy]

Reason is the process by how we need...it begins with distinctions, connecting and separating 'this and that'.

Sounds about right.

Self discovery. A being that has created all, infinite in all directions it has no way to experience anything because it is everything. So it has to separate from itself a part of itself and create limits for itself to discover itself from a different perspective.

[Age]

NONSENSE.

Beyond right and wrong there Is a Field , I will meet you there . ~ Rumi
This Field is pure Love and pure Awareness.

And, within 'this Field' also exists the Knowing of Right, and, Wrong.

[Age]

Reason is the process by how we need...it begins with distinctions, connecting and separating 'this and that'.

Sounds about right.

Self discovery. A being that has created all, infinite in all directions it has no way to experience anything because it is everything.

LOL 'this' would be like 'trying to' claim that there is no way to 'experience' being a human being when one is a 'human being'.

So it has to separate from itself a part of itself and create limits for itself to discover itself from a different perspective.

What?

The eternal and infinite Self does not 'have to', and just does not, so-called 'separate from itself a part of itself', at all.

'you' human beings are just a part of the One (eternal and infinite) Self. For example, the visible human body is just a part of the One (eternal and infinite) visible Universe. And, the 'person', that is, the invisible thoughts and emotions, within an individual human body, is just a part of the One, (all Knowing) invisible Mind.

Only you human beings 'separate', and only conceptually, the One Self. And, you only do 'this' because 'doing this' is the only way 'the brain' can make sense of and understand the Universe in which you human beings have found "yourselves" within.

The Mind Knows, the brain only thinks.

[Fairy]

I agree with that statement. Self introspection reveals I cannot experience my own absence. I must have always existed in one form or another.

This is all poetry anyway - ''The desire to know your own soul will end all other desires''
~Rumi

To distinguish what you are not you arrive at what you are. You can be, but you cannot not be.

That's my definition of Individual, and I'm keeping it.

That is where it gets interesting.

Through introspection the self becomes interacting symbols that are thetical and antithetical, one could say light and dark and various grades that reflect this nature, the presence of one symbol is observed as absent within the other symbol, thus the actualized self is aware of its potential, what it is not and what it is not provides the contrast for what it is.

The limits of the self encapsulate what it is not thus relegating each part of the self as a relative absence of what it could be thus the self is ignorant of itself due to the potentiality it is aware of, in being aware of one's potentiality one is aware of the limits of their awareness...an awareness of an absence of the self in some degree or another.

We are the absence of ourselves thus we can only be seen as but a process.

Here, is another prime example of when one does not yet actually know what the 'self' is, exactly, and how when having a very limited view and perspective of things 'clouds' what 'it' can see, understand, and know.

I disagree. Eod has a sound grasp of what it means to understand the metaphysical self. It's different that's all, but new golden nuggets of wisdom is there to find somewhere in Eod's posts, you Age, just haven't found them yet, but that doesn't mean every one else can't find them.

[Fairy]

Reason is the process by how we need...it begins with distinctions, connecting and separating 'this and that'.

Sounds about right.

Self discovery. A being that has created all, infinite in all directions it has no way to experience anything because it is everything.

LOL 'this' would be like 'trying to' claim that there is no way to 'experience' being a human being when one is a 'human being'.

So it has to separate from itself a part of itself and create limits for itself to discover itself from a different perspective.

What?

The eternal and infinite Self does not 'have to', and just does not, so-called 'separate from itself a part of itself', at all.

'you' human beings are just a part of the One (eternal and infinite) Self. For example, the visible human body is just a part of the One (eternal and infinite) visible Universe. And, the 'person', that is, the invisible thoughts and emotions, within an individual human body, is just a part of the One, (all Knowing) invisible Mind.

Only you human beings 'separate', and only conceptually, the One Self. And, you only do 'this' because 'doing this' is the only way 'the brain' can make sense of and understand the Universe in which you human beings have found "yourselves" within.

The Mind Knows, the brain only thinks.

You do You.

There's only one mind remember. If there was another mind, where would that other mind be?

[Age]

That is where it gets interesting.

Through introspection the self becomes interacting symbols that are thetical and antithetical, one could say light and dark and various grades that reflect this nature, the presence of one symbol is observed as absent within the other symbol, thus the actualized self is aware of its potential, what it is not and what it is not provides the contrast for what it is.

The limits of the self encapsulate what it is not thus relegating each part of the self as a relative absence of what it could be thus the self is ignorant of itself due to the potentiality it is aware of, in being aware of one's potentiality one is aware of the limits of their awareness...an awareness of an absence of the self in some degree or another.

We are the absence of ourselves thus we can only be seen as but a process.

Here, is another prime example of when one does not yet actually know what the 'self' is, exactly, and how when having a very limited view and perspective of things 'clouds' what 'it' can see, understand, and know.

I disagree.

Okay, and great. What is 'it', exactly, that you say and claim, here, you 'disagree with'?

Eod has a sound grasp of what it means to understand the metaphysical self.

Does it?

Will it, or you, provide in straightforward simple words, What, exactly, it means to understand the 'metaphysical self'?

In fact, will either of your, first, inform 'us' readers, here, what even is the so-called 'metaphysical self', exactly?

If no, then why not?

It's different that's all,

So, 'the answer' is, 'It is different, and that is all', correct?

but new golden nuggets of wisdom is there to find somewhere, you Age, just haven't found them yet, but that doesn't mean every one else can't find them.

Will you write 'this' more clearly please?

[Fairy]

It's not semantics to a person having a self revealing dialogue in a cave alone.

I agree with that statement. Self introspection reveals I cannot experience my own absence.

And, 'this' is just because the 'I' is never so-called 'absent'.

I must have always existed in one form or another.

'I' always exist in the form of 'body', the visible Universe, and 'Spirit', the invisible Mind.

This is all poetry anyway - ''The desire to know your own soul will end all other desires''
~Rumi

And, the knowing of what is Falsely claimed as, 'your own soul', ended with the search for all of 'the other answers' to all of 'the other Truly meaningful questions', in Life.

To distinguish what you are not you arrive at what you are. You can be, but you cannot not be.

Have 'you' "fairy" yet distinguished what 'you' are not, from, what 'you' are?

If yes, then will 'you' provide 'your answer', here, for 'us' to 'look at', and 'see'?

If no, then why not, exactly?

That's my definition of Individual, and I'm keeping it.

you appear to have missed the whole point of 'this thread'.

'you' are not an individual. Whereas, 'I' am an individual. And, what is 'an individual', exactly, has not, yet, been defined, by 'you', here.

You do You.

There's only one mind remember. If there is another mind, where would that other mind be?

Nothing works, until You do.

[Age]

Sounds about right.

Self discovery. A being that has created all, infinite in all directions it has no way to experience anything because it is everything.

LOL 'this' would be like 'trying to' claim that there is no way to 'experience' being a human being when one is a 'human being'.

So it has to separate from itself a part of itself and create limits for itself to discover itself from a different perspective.

What?

The eternal and infinite Self does not 'have to', and just does not, so-called 'separate from itself a part of itself', at all.

'you' human beings are just a part of the One (eternal and infinite) Self. For example, the visible human body is just a part of the One (eternal and infinite) visible Universe. And, the 'person', that is, the invisible thoughts and emotions, within an individual human body, is just a part of the One, (all Knowing) invisible Mind.

Only you human beings 'separate', and only conceptually, the One Self. And, you only do 'this' because 'doing this' is the only way 'the brain' can make sense of and understand the Universe in which you human beings have found "yourselves" within.

The Mind Knows, the brain only thinks.

You do You.

There's only one mind remember. If there was another mind, where would that other mind be?

'you' still do not get 'it'.

When 'you' look through the One and only Mind, then 'you' will realize that when 'I' am talking about 'you', and 'I', unlike 'you' 'I' am 'looking at' those words objectively. And, not subjectively like 'you' keep doing, here.

[Age]

I agree with that statement. Self introspection reveals I cannot experience my own absence.

And, 'this' is just because the 'I' is never so-called 'absent'.

I must have always existed in one form or another.

'I' always exist in the form of 'body', the visible Universe, and 'Spirit', the invisible Mind.

This is all poetry anyway - ''The desire to know your own soul will end all other desires''
~Rumi

And, the knowing of what is Falsely claimed as, 'your own soul', ended with the search for all of 'the other answers' to all of 'the other Truly meaningful questions', in Life.

To distinguish what you are not you arrive at what you are. You can be, but you cannot not be.

Have 'you' "fairy" yet distinguished what 'you' are not, from, what 'you' are?

If yes, then will 'you' provide 'your answer', here, for 'us' to 'look at', and 'see'?

If no, then why not, exactly?

That's my definition of Individual, and I'm keeping it.

you appear to have missed the whole point of 'this thread'.

'you' are not an individual. Whereas, 'I' am an individual. And, what is 'an individual', exactly, has not, yet, been defined, by 'you', here.

You do You.

There's only one mind remember. If there is another mind, where would that mind be?

Nothing works, until You do.

So, the sun does not work, until you do.

Well according to "fairy" anyway.

[Fairy]

'you' still do not get 'it'.

When 'you' look through the One and only Mind, then 'you' will realize that when 'I' am talking about 'you', and 'I', unlike 'you' 'I' am 'looking at' those words objectively. And, not subjectively like 'you' keep doing, here.

I don't know what you are talking about here.

[Fairy]

So, the sun does not work, until you do.

Well according to "fairy" anyway.

There is no sun until you say there is. A sun has no knowledge of it's existence.

You do.

Everything already exists as the unborn tao, the unidentified unnamed. Until there is something to conceive them. That something is You.

[Age]

'you' still do not get 'it'.

When 'you' look through the One and only Mind, then 'you' will realize that when 'I' am talking about 'you', and 'I', unlike 'you' 'I' am 'looking at' those words objectively. And, not subjectively like 'you' keep doing, here.

I don't know what you are talking about here.

Okay.

And, you have absolutely no interest nor curiosity at all in finding out, correct?