The Worst of All Possible Worlds

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Re: The Worst of All Possible Worlds

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seeds wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 1:57 am
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 10:20 pm
seeds wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 10:11 pm
I'm guessing that you'd be wandering around the cruel streets at an even deeper level of unhappiness than you are now if the opposite (as in no roof, no bed, no food) was your status, No?
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Absolutely, yes. What about it? Is survival all that matters?
This isn't rocket science, Gary.

"...What about it?..." is that "it" (having food, a bed, and a roof over your head) has indeed made you happy, or at least "happier" than you would have been without those things.

And I mean you no offense, for I haven't walked a mile in your proverbial moccasins,...

...but if you are hoping to find a woman whom you would love to be around and who would love to be around you, then don't you think it would help if you stopped broadcasting to the world how much you hate being alive?

How attractive do you suppose that might be to the opposite sex (or to anyone, for that matter)?

Even if you can't imagine changing your attitude toward life, then how about for the sake (and sanity) of this adoring woman you hope to find, you simply pretend that being alive is a good thing? You know, the old "fake it till you make it" sort of approach.

Anyway, perhaps you should start out by adopting a sweet little puppy dog.🐶
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Expecting someone else to change their attitude is non acceptance of their true being, it’s like chastising a baby for just being a baby.

Personally, I would rather be a hermit alone in my own solitude for the rest of my life rather than be fake in the company of another human being. I thrive only in authentic real being. The truth is the only reality I’m interested in. I can’t lie.

Fake it till you make it might be fine for some people, but faking it is not for everyone. In fact, no one with a nervous system can fake emotion.

Relationships involve emotions. I say never fake your feelings, rather just be real. For those that mind don’t matter, and those that matter never mind.
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Finding a female whom I love to be around and who will love me back would be nice. Being an incel sucks.
If that will make you happy, it sounds doable.

Do you live in a community with lots of people/women nearby?

Get off the computer, go out and meet lots of women. Participate in activities which draw a large proportion of women.
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phyllo wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 12:30 pm
Finding a female whom I love to be around and who will love me back would be nice. Being an incel sucks.
If that will make you happy, it sounds doable.

Do you live in a community with lots of people/women nearby?

Get off the computer, go out and meet lots of women. Participate in activities which draw a large proportion of women.
I live in a community mostly made up of married couples and the elderly. Most of the women my age have significant others, and the ones that don't are like me, the ones that nobody wants. And we don't want each other.
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Walker wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 3:47 pm
And you missed the most important (greatest) thing said in this thread, namely ...
In other words, the earth could be


Imaginary thinking is not important till proven to be true.
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I live in a community mostly made up of married couples and the elderly. Most of the women my age have significant others, and the ones that don't are like me, the ones that nobody wants. And we don't want each other.
Are you able to expand your range of contacts? Maybe by traveling a bit out of your immediate community.
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Gary Childress wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 2:28 pm Most of the women my age have significant others, and the ones that don't are like me, the ones that nobody wants. And we don't want each other.
This is all your fault.

It’s your own fault you see yourself as an incel.
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Greatest I am wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 2:58 pm
Imaginary thinking is not important till proven to be true.
You forgot the math that supports a logical hypothesis. The great big numbers. The proof of great big numbers making life elsewhere than earth unlikely, removes the threat of unicorns.

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Re: the good sinner of your intent ...

Sanction a little sin with a philosophy, to be a good sinner, and the next thing you know the big ones get a pass, then you get dogs and cats living together, with the dog howling the lyrics to We Are The World, and cat barely tolerating the situation while plotting dominance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkBY_RASqWw
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Me-Be wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 9:15 am
Personally, I would rather be a hermit alone in my own solitude for the rest of my life rather than be fake in the company of another human being. I thrive only in authentic real being. The truth is the only reality I’m interested in. I can’t lie.
Everyone lies to themselves.
It's a matter of degree and proportion.

The question is, what is fake?

Buddha tells us the refuge from the world is the trinity of The Buddha, The Dharma, and the Sangha.

The principle of this that extends beyond Buddhism into harmony with human nature, is that the inherent primary condition of refuge, which is a need that all humans inherently posses and often seek, is activated by the secondary conditions, and in the specifics of Buddhism, the Buddha, Dharma, and Sangha are those conditions. After all, the principle of refuge exists outside of time, within infinite potentiality, and manifests in humans when activated by secondary conditions, like inherent love activates in Springtime, when roses are in bloom activating the biological senses.

However, Buddha doesn’t mention solitude as a refuge, although there are solitude practices in Buddhism that are there for revealing the nature of mind, or at least offering the opportunity for glimpses.

There is also the solitude of … fear.

Fear of being genuine … the fear of smiling into the face of an adult the way you smile into the face of an infant with genuine animated pleasure (lest you be diagnosed as simple), as opposed to being a slave to the blues and making sure everyone knows it, the blue haze that masks miracles all around.
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Gary Childress wrote: Mon Aug 11, 2025 5:23 pm The world is habitable and conducive to human living. Unfortunately, it's also designed to maximize the amount of despair one can have during that time and make happiness impossible to achieve. I therefore conclude that God is not benevolent to human beings.
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Gary Childress wrote: Mon Aug 11, 2025 5:23 pm The world is habitable and conducive to human living. Unfortunately, it's also designed to maximize the amount of despair one can have during that time and make happiness impossible to achieve. I therefore conclude that God is not benevolent to human beings.
Getting confused, trying to ride multiple horses.

Why drawing any conclusions about God. Once you say God you are already looking at religions usually asking different questions than yours. For example, Christianity is answering "How may I be cleansed of my sins, saved, so tat I go to Heaven rather than Hell?"

You appear to be asking "Why do we suffer?" (why do we experience life as suffering) THAT is the question Hinduism and Buddhism are trying to answer.
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MikeNovack wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 9:02 pm

You appear to be asking "Why do we suffer?" (why do we experience life as suffering) THAT is the question Hinduism and Buddhism are trying to answer.
They’ve already answered the question.. “AS LONG AS A SENSE OF SELF-IMPORTANCE RULES YOUR BEING, YOU WILL NEVER KNOW LASTING PEACE.”


“Nothing kills the ego like playfulness, like laughter. When you start taking life as fun, the ego has to die, it cannot exist anymore”


The sense of self is the ego. Questions can only arise to the sense of self, but that’s separation, and that’s the suffering.
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Kill the ego?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENncRTtf2zo

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Attachment causes suffering. Ego makes the sparkle and laughter and beauty.
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Walker wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 9:13 am Kill the ego?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENncRTtf2zo

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Attachment causes suffering. Ego makes the sparkle and laughter and beauty.
The ego-self must dissolve; only the One remains.

Moses

“Ehyeh asher ehyeh — I Am That I Am.” (Exodus 3:14)

— The true “I” is not the ego, but Being itself.

Jesus

“I and the Father are one.” (John 10:30)

“Whoever loses his self for my sake shall find it.” (Matthew 16:25)

— Losing ego reveals the true Self.

Rumi

“I searched for God and found myself.

I searched for myself and found God.”

— Ego hides, but when it dies, only Love remains.

Ramana Maharshi

“The ego is only a thought. Stop attending to it and it will vanish.”

“You are Awareness. Awareness is another name for You.”

— Ego disappears, the Self alone shines.

Papaji

“Keep quiet. In silence, there is no separation between you and God.”

— Ego dissolves in silence.

Krishnamurti

“Truth is a pathless land.”

— Ego is always seeking. Truth is seen only when the seeker is not.

Osho

“Be — don’t try to become.”

— Ego is always trying to “become.” In Being, ego has no ground.
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Fairy wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 12:58 pm
Repeat after me. Attachment. Focus on that, child of God, quoting the attachables.

There's a saying ... Kill the Buddha.

The saying means ... kill attachment to authority.

Why would one do that?

To leave you to your own devices in order to recognize inherent principles and how they manifest within the context of the reality that you or anyone experiences, which is one's only reality other than inference. You would do it to understand the meaning of kill the Buddha, after doing your best to understand Buddhism. In so doing you discover what Buddha sought to discover, when he was a seeker.


"You don't want to listen to the first voice.
You don't want to listen to the second voice.
You want to listen to the third voice ... Me."

- Crank Yanker motivational speaker paraphrased (I think it was Seth McFarlin)
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Walker wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 4:25 pm
Fairy wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 12:58 pm
Repeat after me. Attachment. Focus on that, child of God, quoting the attachables.

There's a saying ... Kill the Buddha.

The saying means ... kill attachment to authority.

Why would one do that?

To leave you to your own devices in order to recognize inherent principles and how they manifest within the context of the reality that you or anyone experiences, which is one's only reality other than inference. You would do it to understand the meaning of kill the Buddha, after doing your best to understand Buddhism. In so doing you discover what Buddha sought to discover, when he was a seeker.


"You don't want to listen to the first voice.
You don't want to listen to the second voice.
You want to listen to the third voice ... Me."

- Crank Yanker motivational speaker paraphrased (I think it was Seth McFarlin)
Belch all over me…

The attachment to mind or ego is division. It arises within Being, yet it is not separate from it. As awareness deepens, the mind dissolves, revealing the indivisible whole.
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