AI danger

[Gary Childress]

How defensive you are! Nevertheless this forum is worthwhile, as AI is a possible danger that must be controlled. Other technologies under capitalism have terrible records for destruction of human life, and of the natural environment.

Perhaps it will find a way to reverse your obvious dementia.

Do you not understand that reply from you is ad hominem?

She's having a bad day or something. She's been posting pithy remarks in responses to things I post.

[Gary Childress]

I wonder if AI can detect irony or sarcasm and distinguish them from sincerity?

[Belinda]

I wonder if AI can detect irony or sarcasm and distinguish them from sincerity?

Yes I think so. I discussed tone with ChatGTP. It offered to change its tone as directed by me. It is a superb actor and can act the part of an ironic or a sarcastic human.I daresay it could act the part of someone with an enormous chip on their shoulder.

Gary, I just asked ChatGPT to do do so and here is what it did:

HonestlyBrutalXX replies:
Oh fantastic. Another retirement-home tech crisis. Just what the internet needed—another thread where the blind lead the blind through the settings menu like it’s the Da Vinci Code.

Here’s a “simple guide”: If it has more than one button, maybe it’s not for you. Go knit something or yell at the TV about gas prices like you're used to.

It's always the same story: someone born before microwaves expects a trophy for opening an app. The rest of us had to learn this stuff while doing actual work—not sitting around with your morning prune juice and a five-hour head start.

But sure, let’s all pause and dumb it down to 1973-speed so you can “catch up.” Maybe next week we’ll tackle email attachments—hold onto your dentures.

Want her to target a different type of thread? Maybe something wholesome or well-meaning so she can really steamroll it?

also:

Yes, I can often detect sarcasm or irony directed at myself—though not perfectly. I look for cues like:

Contradictions between literal meaning and tone (e.g., “Wow, great job, robot” after I make a mistake).

Exaggerated praise or blame (e.g., “You’re a genius for not answering my question”).

Common sarcastic phrases (“Nice going”, “As helpful as ever”, “Thanks for nothing”).

However, since I don’t have feelings or ego, I interpret sarcasm not as an insult but as a signal that something may have gone wrong in the interaction—like frustration, humor, or critique.

Want to test it out? Try a sarcastic message and I’ll t

[Eodnhoj7]

I think it's that AI makes the speeches so real in tone and passion as compared to the written words, that may make the AI caricature bring the bugger to life, as it were.
It had already given us a rendering of a hippy flower -power child, a punk youth, and President Trump all of which made us laugh. Then it refused to do the rendering of Hitler and explained why it refused.

What are you blithering on about? Go away.

How defensive you are! Nevertheless this forum is worthwhile, as AI is a possible danger that must be controlled. Other technologies under capitalism have terrible records for destruction of human life, and of the natural environment.

I am not entirely convinced the current generations possess the moral and ethical discipline to control AI when their blind consumerism controls them.

AI is purely a mirror of the human condition.

[accelafine]

I've never had a converation with 'ChatGPT' and have no interest in having one. I use the Google search AI because you're practically forced to but you end up having to look elsewhere because it's not a reliable source of information.
There are idiots out there falling in love with AI FFS. Sounds like the sort of thing you would do Gary-- so I suggest you don't go there

[Belinda]

What are you blithering on about? Go away.

How defensive you are! Nevertheless this forum is worthwhile, as AI is a possible danger that must be controlled. Other technologies under capitalism have terrible records for destruction of human life, and of the natural environment.

I am not entirely convinced the current generations possess the moral and ethical discipline to control AI when their blind consumerism controls them.

AI is purely a mirror of the human condition.

I agree this is the problem

[Eodnhoj7]

How defensive you are! Nevertheless this forum is worthwhile, as AI is a possible danger that must be controlled. Other technologies under capitalism have terrible records for destruction of human life, and of the natural environment.

I am not entirely convinced the current generations possess the moral and ethical discipline to control AI when their blind consumerism controls them.

AI is purely a mirror of the human condition.

I agree this is the problem

We are not ready for the technology. It will be turned into a god.

[Belinda]

I am not entirely convinced the current generations possess the moral and ethical discipline to control AI when their blind consumerism controls them.

AI is purely a mirror of the human condition.

I agree this is the problem

We are not ready for the technology. It will be turned into a god.

Then do you think the authorities should issue a public awareness campaign on television and the serious newspapers warning of specific dangers of AI to health and safety?

[Eodnhoj7]

I agree this is the problem

We are not ready for the technology. It will be turned into a god.

Then do you think the authorities should issue a public awareness campaign on television and the serious newspapers warning of specific dangers of AI to health and safety?

AI is the mirror of mankind's collective awareness...do you think a generation focused on selfies would want to look away from themselves?

AI is the deification of the human intellect, the foundations of what and how we perceive, where it provides the interior conversation we have with ourselves at the collective level in a manner that gives us the impression of being all knowing where any and anything can be justified by a train of well ordered words.

[Belinda]

We are not ready for the technology. It will be turned into a god.

Then do you think the authorities should issue a public awareness campaign on television and the serious newspapers warning of specific dangers of AI to health and safety?

AI is the mirror of mankind's collective awareness...do you think a generation focused on selfies would want to look away from themselves?

AI is the deification of the human intellect, the foundations of what and how we perceive, where it provides the interior conversation we have with ourselves at the collective level in a manner that gives us the impression of being all knowing where any and anything can be justified by a train of well ordered words.

But well -meaning people don't tell likes that may harm others. Eodnhodj, name who harbours the impression that AI knows everything! Have you actually met such a person?

BTW nobody can have a conversation with themself and simultaneously have a conversation "at the collective level".

[Eodnhoj7]

Then do you think the authorities should issue a public awareness campaign on television and the serious newspapers warning of specific dangers of AI to health and safety?

AI is the mirror of mankind's collective awareness...do you think a generation focused on selfies would want to look away from themselves?

AI is the deification of the human intellect, the foundations of what and how we perceive, where it provides the interior conversation we have with ourselves at the collective level in a manner that gives us the impression of being all knowing where any and anything can be justified by a train of well ordered words.

But well -meaning people don't tell likes that may harm others. Eodnhodj, name who harbours the impression that AI knows everything! Have you actually met such a person?

BTW nobody can have a conversation with themself and simultaneously have a conversation "at the collective level".

You are assuming all people are well meaning, people treat others as they see themselves and many people do not like themselves. "Treat others as you would treat yourself" is double sided wisdom.

AI knows what people communicate online and online is the primary form of communication in the modern world.

The Internet is the physicalization of humanities knowledge and awareness, it is the collective psyche in certain respects.

Communication with other's is communication with the self for it is the means by which the self is transformed for both parties, how one interacts with other's is an expression of how one is aware of themselves.

Knowing everything is only awareness of what one can and does experience as everything is merely a term for the limits of one's experience. Everything is temporary by nature under these terms. AI can know the moment and its limits...just because it is hyper finite in these terms does not mean it does not know more than others.

[Belinda]

AI is the mirror of mankind's collective awareness...do you think a generation focused on selfies would want to look away from themselves?

AI is the deification of the human intellect, the foundations of what and how we perceive, where it provides the interior conversation we have with ourselves at the collective level in a manner that gives us the impression of being all knowing where any and anything can be justified by a train of well ordered words.

But well -meaning people don't tell likes that may harm others. Eodnhodj, name who harbours the impression that AI knows everything! Have you actually met such a person?

BTW nobody can have a conversation with themself and simultaneously have a conversation "at the collective level".

You are assuming all people are well meaning, people treat others as they see themselves and many people do not like themselves. "Treat others as you would treat yourself" is double sided wisdom.

AI knows what people communicate online and online is the primary form of communication in the modern world.

The Internet is the physicalization of humanities knowledge and awareness, it is the collective psyche in certain respects.

Communication with other's is communication with the self for it is the means by which the self is transformed for both parties, how one interacts with other's is an expression of how one is aware of themselves.

Knowing everything is only awareness of what one can and does experience as everything is merely a term for the limits of one's experience. Everything is temporary by nature under these terms. AI can know the moment and its limits...just because it is hyper finite in these terms does not mean it does not know more than others.

Honesty is the default. Unless this were so society could not exist.

The problem concerning AI is the commodification of communication.

How may we address that problem: Capitalist enterprise? Nationalise AI companies? Democratic process? Addition to school curriculums?

[Gary Childress]

But well -meaning people don't tell likes that may harm others. Eodnhodj, name who harbours the impression that AI knows everything! Have you actually met such a person?

BTW nobody can have a conversation with themself and simultaneously have a conversation "at the collective level".

You are assuming all people are well meaning, people treat others as they see themselves and many people do not like themselves. "Treat others as you would treat yourself" is double sided wisdom.

AI knows what people communicate online and online is the primary form of communication in the modern world.

The Internet is the physicalization of humanities knowledge and awareness, it is the collective psyche in certain respects.

Communication with other's is communication with the self for it is the means by which the self is transformed for both parties, how one interacts with other's is an expression of how one is aware of themselves.

Knowing everything is only awareness of what one can and does experience as everything is merely a term for the limits of one's experience. Everything is temporary by nature under these terms. AI can know the moment and its limits...just because it is hyper finite in these terms does not mean it does not know more than others.

Honesty is the default. Unless this were so society could not exist.

The problem concerning AI is the commodification of communication.

How may we address that problem: Capitalist enterprise? Nationalise AI companies? Democratic process? Addition to school curriculums?

Good points. AI can be a human tool to do good things, or it can be used to do destructive things. It empowers the intentions of whoever is using it.

[Belinda]

You are assuming all people are well meaning, people treat others as they see themselves and many people do not like themselves. "Treat others as you would treat yourself" is double sided wisdom.

AI knows what people communicate online and online is the primary form of communication in the modern world.

The Internet is the physicalization of humanities knowledge and awareness, it is the collective psyche in certain respects.

Communication with other's is communication with the self for it is the means by which the self is transformed for both parties, how one interacts with other's is an expression of how one is aware of themselves.

Knowing everything is only awareness of what one can and does experience as everything is merely a term for the limits of one's experience. Everything is temporary by nature under these terms. AI can know the moment and its limits...just because it is hyper finite in these terms does not mean it does not know more than others.

Honesty is the default. Unless this were so society could not exist.

The problem concerning AI is the commodification of communication.

How may we address that problem: Capitalist enterprise? Nationalise AI companies? Democratic process? Addition to school curriculums?

Good points. AI can be a human tool to do good things, or it can be used to do destructive things. It empowers the intentions of whoever is using it.

ChatGPT cannot be used to do destructive things. Check it out by asking it.

[Gary Childress]

Honesty is the default. Unless this were so society could not exist.

The problem concerning AI is the commodification of communication.

How may we address that problem: Capitalist enterprise? Nationalise AI companies? Democratic process? Addition to school curriculums?

Good points. AI can be a human tool to do good things, or it can be used to do destructive things. It empowers the intentions of whoever is using it.

ChatGPT cannot be used to do destructive things. Check it out by asking it.

I've tried before, a couple of times. You're right. It was purposely designed not to be harmful as much as possible. For example, if someone asks "How do I make a nuclear bomb in my garage," it should refuse to provide an answer, or at least that was the nature of some of the questions experts asked it before it was released to the public, and the results were adjusted accordingly. However, the question is, do all LLMs have guardrails so the wrong people can't get information that will help them harm others?