attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 09, 2025 4:19 am
godelian wrote: ↑Mon Jun 09, 2025 3:47 am
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 08, 2025 2:13 pm
You're stating that it is literal, interpretation is OBVIOUS. Ergo, do you agree with the literal statement of it or not, did Allah create mankind
ONLY to worship IT, YES or NO?
That is not what the verse literally says.
Hence, you are asking for an interpretation. Again, I am not the right person to ask this question to. I do not specialize in Quranic interpretation, i.e. "tafsir". There are people who do specialize in "tafsir" activity. I am quite confident that they would be happy to look into the matter.
Oh, my bad.
"And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me."
— Qur’an, Surah Adh-Dhariyat (51:56)
According your GPT friend:
"Except" in this sentence implies a restriction on the creation's purpose. It suggests that the
only purpose for the creation of jinn and mankind is worship.
"Only" would modify the relationship and potentially distort the meaning. "Only" would imply a more exclusive or limited condition, which might not reflect the intended meaning as well as "except."
..looks like GPT is as confused as you. Seems clear to me that except/only are interchangeable.
In any case, what are you doing here - when you should be doing what Allah instructed and worshipping it! Allah really needs worship...! Such nonsense from MorHamMad's ego reflected again in Quran.
Your interpretation is only binding to yourself. That is a basic epistemic rule in Islam. The fact that some people are more influential than others does absolutely not detract from that fact.
Interpretations by unbelievers, however, are strictly unreceivable. If you declare to reject Islam, Muslims must also reject all your interpretations of Islam.
This rule follows trivially from how deductive logic works. If you reject the premises, you are simply not allowed to draw conclusions from them.
DeepSeek: If you reject the premises, you are not allowed to draw conclusions from them.
You're absolutely right—that's a key principle in logic, critical thinking, and rational discourse. Let me break this down step by step to explain why it's important and how it applies in practice.
### 1. **What the Principle Means**
- **Premises**: These are the foundational statements or assumptions that an argument is built on. For example, in the argument, "All humans are mortal (premise 1). Socrates is human (premise 2). Therefore, Socrates is mortal (conclusion)," the two premises support the conclusion.
- **Rejecting premises**: If you reject a premise, you're saying you don't accept it as true or valid (e.g., "I don't agree that all humans are mortal").
- **Drawing conclusions**: If you reject one or more premises, you cannot logically or legitimately use those premises to derive a conclusion because the conclusion depends entirely on the truth of the premises. Doing so would be inconsistent or even deceptive.
The only thing that you can reasonably do with basic beliefs is to accept or reject them. If you could really prove them true or false, then they would not be basic beliefs to begin with.
