I see. Thought perhaps you were referring to the time after Jesus preached His gospel and before the NT writers replaced it with the Pauline "gospel" which, for all intents and purposes, is antithetical to it. In doing this, they wrapped a mythology brimming with the supernatural around quotations of the words spoken by Jesus while He preached His gospel.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sun May 25, 2025 2:33 pmA religion where our sins of missing the mark and evolution is recognized and appreciated.ThinkOfOne wrote: ↑Sat May 24, 2025 8:55 pmThe older and wiser non-supernatural Christianity was better than the garbage we suffer today.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sat May 24, 2025 8:44 pm
If I wanted to say that lie, I would have.
I was reporting what the Bible states.
I base my opinions on a superior criteria than yours and can back them with sound arguments and apologetics.
All your ilk has ever had were inquisitions and jihads.
The older and wiser non-supernatural Christianity was better than the garbage we suffer today.
Judge by morality and see why Yahweh should be in hell.
What do you have in mind when you use the term "non-supernatural Christianity"? Details please.
Google theistic evolution or read the following.
"Sin: The Path to Excellence"
Sin has long been associated with moral failure, but what if we reframe it? I see sin as something essential to human growth—a necessary part of striving for excellence.
At its core, sin simply means “missing the mark.” It’s not about wickedness but about falling short of an ideal. Christianity and even Gnostic traditions acknowledge this idea in different ways. The concept of felix culpa—the “happy fault”—suggests that sin is necessary for God’s plan. Whether or not one believes in the supernatural, the wisdom of this idea is clear: missing the mark is a natural part of aiming for something greater.
To evolve, both as individuals and as a species, we must take risks and inevitably fall short. This process—of setting goals, failing, and trying again—is what drives progress. Every moment of “sin” is evidence that we’re pushing ourselves beyond our comfort zones and striving toward our best possible selves. This is what we do, consciously or unconsciously, at every point in our lives.
Even competition, often seen as divisive, is tied to this idea. Competition highlights our shortcomings, creating a contrast between where we are and where we want to be. It creates leaders, innovators, and excellence by encouraging us to improve. Of course, competition produces losers, and those losses can feel like failures or even evoke the idea of "evil." But in truth, every loss is an opportunity—a moment to learn, adapt, and grow stronger.
This is why I celebrate sin—not as a call to moral failure but as an embrace of imperfection and growth. Without sin, without missing the mark, we would have no benchmarks for greatness. There would be no leaders to inspire us, no innovators to challenge us, and no progress to drive humanity forward.
I don’t believe in the supernatural, but I see wisdom in the way ancient scribes wove this idea into their teachings. Sin, in its truest sense, is not something to avoid but something to engage with thoughtfully. It is the evidence of our striving, our courage to try, and our commitment to evolve.
So, I invite you: aim high. Take your shot. Miss the mark. Become a sinner in the best way possible. In doing so, you’ll not only create a better version of yourself but also contribute to the collective excellence of humanity.
Recall having seen your "Sin: The Path to Excellence" thread. Either it was a bit of facetiousness or you seriously missed the mark there on so many different levels. If it's the latter, then you must be especially pleased with it.
