Judaism - from a philosophical point of view

[Janoah]

In Judaism there are practical rules, there is a worldview background, within which there are different, sometimes contradictory ideas, there are no unambiguous dogmas, but there is something that goes without saying.
I propose to discuss Judaism from a philosophical point of view, the pros and, perhaps, the cons.

[Greatest I am]

I understand that Jewry is following the Oral Torah and not the written Torah.

Jews and Jesus put man above God.

I adlib Jesus. Have ye forgotten that ye are Gods and the scriptures cannot be broken?

Is that your understanding?

[Impenitent]

as it applies to any group of people:

philosophically: our team is best

practically: our team has the best weapons and we use them...

-Imp

[LuckyR]

I am not intimately familiar with the Jewish faith, but I detect no particular difference between it and other popular religions, both in theory and in practice.

[Greatest I am]

I am not intimately familiar with the Jewish faith, but I detect no particular difference between it and other popular religions, both in theory and in practice.

Wow.

Their spawn, Christians and Muslims are noted for their inquisitions and jihads and genocidal p**** of a God.

I prefer the Jewish and older Christian view.

You must not have looked much.

[godelian]

Judaism shines brightly, not because of what it adds, but because of what it leaves out: the fake divinity of a Holy Hominid and his single mother.

There is otherwise always some core of truth in every religion, even in the ridiculously pagan ones.

The difficulty of religion is to leave out the nonsense. There are always numerous baboons frantically trying to add some bullshit.

It is mostly a question of learning to say no.

[LuckyR]

I am not intimately familiar with the Jewish faith, but I detect no particular difference between it and other popular religions, both in theory and in practice.

Wow.

Their spawn, Christians and Muslims are noted for their inquisitions and jihads and genocidal p**** of a God.

I prefer the Jewish and older Christian view.

You must not have looked much.

That's the difference between views from a 100 foot altitude and a 30,000 foot altitude. Sure, any true believer can point out numerous (ultimately meaningless) differences between Judaism and say, Christianity. These are important in the Theology Forum, but I'm not seeing substantive differences here in the Philosophy Forum.

[Age]

In Judaism there are practical rules, there is a worldview background, within which there are different, sometimes contradictory ideas, there are no unambiguous dogmas, but there is something that goes without saying.
I propose to discuss Judaism from a philosophical point of view, the pros and, perhaps, the cons.

I also propose to discuss.

[Greatest I am]

I am not intimately familiar with the Jewish faith, but I detect no particular difference between it and other popular religions, both in theory and in practice.

Wow.

Their spawn, Christians and Muslims are noted for their inquisitions and jihads and genocidal p**** of a God.

I prefer the Jewish and older Christian view.

You must not have looked much.

That's the difference between views from a 100 foot altitude and a 30,000 foot altitude. Sure, any true believer can point out numerous (ultimately meaningless) differences between Judaism and say, Christianity. These are important in the Theology Forum, but I'm not seeing substantive differences here in the Philosophy Forum.

There are no true believers according to the Bible, It says that anyone with faith or belief will do all that Jesus did and more.

Do you see a believer anywhere?

I do not.

[LuckyR]

Wow.

Their spawn, Christians and Muslims are noted for their inquisitions and jihads and genocidal p**** of a God.

I prefer the Jewish and older Christian view.

You must not have looked much.

That's the difference between views from a 100 foot altitude and a 30,000 foot altitude. Sure, any true believer can point out numerous (ultimately meaningless) differences between Judaism and say, Christianity. These are important in the Theology Forum, but I'm not seeing substantive differences here in the Philosophy Forum.

There are no true believers according to the Bible, It says that anyone with faith or belief will do all that Jesus did and more.

Do you see a believer anywhere?

I do not.

Huh? So you're saying religions don't possess True Believers?

You're free to have your opinion, my experience differs.

[Greatest I am]

That's the difference between views from a 100 foot altitude and a 30,000 foot altitude. Sure, any true believer can point out numerous (ultimately meaningless) differences between Judaism and say, Christianity. These are important in the Theology Forum, but I'm not seeing substantive differences here in the Philosophy Forum.

There are no true believers according to the Bible, It says that anyone with faith or belief will do all that Jesus did and more.

Do you see a believer anywhere?

I do not.

Huh? So you're saying religions don't possess True Believers?

You're free to have your opinion, my experience differs.

If I wanted to say that lie, I would have.

I was reporting what the Bible states.

I base my opinions on a superior criteria than yours and can back them with sound arguments and apologetics.

All your ilk has ever had were inquisitions and jihads.

The older and wiser non-supernatural Christianity was better than the garbage we suffer today.

Judge by morality and see why Yahweh should be in hell.

[ThinkOfOne]

There are no true believers according to the Bible, It says that anyone with faith or belief will do all that Jesus did and more.

Do you see a believer anywhere?

I do not.

Huh? So you're saying religions don't possess True Believers?

You're free to have your opinion, my experience differs.

If I wanted to say that lie, I would have.

I was reporting what the Bible states.

I base my opinions on a superior criteria than yours and can back them with sound arguments and apologetics.

All your ilk has ever had were inquisitions and jihads.

The older and wiser non-supernatural Christianity was better than the garbage we suffer today.

Judge by morality and see why Yahweh should be in hell.

The older and wiser non-supernatural Christianity was better than the garbage we suffer today.

What do you have in mind when you use the term "non-supernatural Christianity"? Details please.

[ThinkOfOne]

In Judaism there are practical rules, there is a worldview background, within which there are different, sometimes contradictory ideas, there are no unambiguous dogmas, but there is something that goes without saying.
I propose to discuss Judaism from a philosophical point of view, the pros and, perhaps, the cons.

When do you intend to present your philosophical view of Judaism? I'm interested.

[godelian]

The older and wiser non-supernatural Christianity was better than the garbage we suffer today.

Yes, that is so true!

Too many people were allowed to add their bullshit later on.

A good religion has lots of measures in place to prevent exactly that. It becomes the dominant concern of a religion:

How do we prevent the numerous bullshitters from adding their bullshit?

Otherwise, you get Christianity, which is more bullshit than religion. So, the central goal of any religion to avoid becoming like Christianity.

[Greatest I am]

Huh? So you're saying religions don't possess True Believers?

You're free to have your opinion, my experience differs.

If I wanted to say that lie, I would have.

I was reporting what the Bible states.

I base my opinions on a superior criteria than yours and can back them with sound arguments and apologetics.

All your ilk has ever had were inquisitions and jihads.

The older and wiser non-supernatural Christianity was better than the garbage we suffer today.

Judge by morality and see why Yahweh should be in hell.

The older and wiser non-supernatural Christianity was better than the garbage we suffer today.

What do you have in mind when you use the term "non-supernatural Christianity"? Details please.

A religion where our sins of missing the mark and evolution is recognized and appreciated.

Google theistic evolution or read the following.

"Sin: The Path to Excellence"
Sin has long been associated with moral failure, but what if we reframe it? I see sin as something essential to human growth—a necessary part of striving for excellence.
At its core, sin simply means “missing the mark.” It’s not about wickedness but about falling short of an ideal. Christianity and even Gnostic traditions acknowledge this idea in different ways. The concept of felix culpa—the “happy fault”—suggests that sin is necessary for God’s plan. Whether or not one believes in the supernatural, the wisdom of this idea is clear: missing the mark is a natural part of aiming for something greater.
To evolve, both as individuals and as a species, we must take risks and inevitably fall short. This process—of setting goals, failing, and trying again—is what drives progress. Every moment of “sin” is evidence that we’re pushing ourselves beyond our comfort zones and striving toward our best possible selves. This is what we do, consciously or unconsciously, at every point in our lives.
Even competition, often seen as divisive, is tied to this idea. Competition highlights our shortcomings, creating a contrast between where we are and where we want to be. It creates leaders, innovators, and excellence by encouraging us to improve. Of course, competition produces losers, and those losses can feel like failures or even evoke the idea of "evil." But in truth, every loss is an opportunity—a moment to learn, adapt, and grow stronger.
This is why I celebrate sin—not as a call to moral failure but as an embrace of imperfection and growth. Without sin, without missing the mark, we would have no benchmarks for greatness. There would be no leaders to inspire us, no innovators to challenge us, and no progress to drive humanity forward.
I don’t believe in the supernatural, but I see wisdom in the way ancient scribes wove this idea into their teachings. Sin, in its truest sense, is not something to avoid but something to engage with thoughtfully. It is the evidence of our striving, our courage to try, and our commitment to evolve.
So, I invite you: aim high. Take your shot. Miss the mark. Become a sinner in the best way possible. In doing so, you’ll not only create a better version of yourself but also contribute to the collective excellence of humanity.