Men banned from playing in women's football and netball

[Martin Peter Clarke]

So, can anyone with a willy play male sports? Is that unfair on anyone? Apart from hormonally artificially female, genetically male people, artificially or accidentally without willies, who can't play female sports? Because that's not fair to hormonally and genetically female sports... persons. Whereas the 'unfairly'... genetically female person who is naturally high in androgens can play female sports. No?

[Immanuel Can]

Ooh, wikipedia links.

You asked. I delivered.

Read my lips. I don't care.

Funny for somebody who keeps talking about it....

I'm glad to hear you're a feminist IC. Keep up the good work

Hmmm...you're not listening. It's the Feminists who make you a "TERF." I'd just call you sane...at least, about this one issue, though your antipathy to men is still pretty lunatic.

Given male violence of every kind, it's pretty understandable.

Violence is not at all limited to males. But physical violence is more prevalent among them. Verbal violence, exclusionary violence, character assassination, psychological tyranny, these are the common tools of female violence. And it's not less than male violence; it's just in a less overt and more easily-concealed form. Women generally get away with it. Men often do not.

When I ask women if they have ever experienced physical violence from men, most (though decidedly not all) say, "No, not really." When I ask them if they've ever experienced things like character assassination, shaming, being shut out, cyber-bullying, reputation-destruction, ganging up, and so forth from women, then every single one of them says they have. I've never met one who said, "No, women are all lovely and kind." They can all repeat horror stories of being psychologically bullied by their rivals, many of which they carry resentment for into adulthood.

So the phrase "male violence" is a bit misleading. It's really "human violence," coming in different kinds. But whether a boy's black eye from a bully in the schoolyard or a girls shattered ego from the cruelties inflicted on her by female peers is worse violence...well, for that, you'd have to ask the individual. Certainly there's no male monopoly on violence.

[Immanuel Can]

So, can anyone with a willy play male sports?

Well, not necessarily with their willies.

[accelafine]

So, can anyone with a willy play male sports? Is that unfair on anyone? Apart from hormonally artificially female, genetically male people, artificially or accidentally without willies, who can't play female sports? Because that's not fair to hormonally and genetically female sports... persons. Whereas the 'unfairly'... genetically female person who is naturally high in androgens can play female sports. No?

A woman is not a castrated man. It makes no difference if a man has a 'willy' or not. Women have been injured and even brain-damaged by these cheating arseholes. No amount of 'androgens' is EVER going to come close to the amount of testorstone in men and the enormous phyical advantages men gain at puberty.

[accelafine]

You asked. I delivered.

Funny for somebody who keeps talking about it....

Hmmm...you're not listening. It's the Feminists who make you a "TERF." I'd just call you sane...at least, about this one issue, though your antipathy to men is still pretty lunatic.

Given male violence of every kind, it's pretty understandable.

Violence is not at all limited to males. But physical violence is more prevalent among them. Verbal violence, exclusionary violence, character assassination, psychological tyranny, these are the common tools of female violence. And it's not less than male violence; it's just in a less overt and more easily-concealed form. Women generally get away with it. Men often do not.

When I ask women if they have ever experienced physical violence from men, most (though decidedly not all) say, "No, not really." When I ask them if they've ever experienced things like character assassination, shaming, being shut out, cyber-bullying, reputation-destruction, ganging up, and so forth from women, then every single one of them says they have. I've never met one who said, "No, women are all lovely and kind." They can all repeat horror stories of being psychologically bullied by their rivals, many of which they carry resentment for into adulthood.

So the phrase "male violence" is a bit misleading. It's really "human violence," coming in different kinds. But whether a boy's black eye from a bully in the schoolyard or a girls shattered ego from the cruelties inflicted on her by female peers is worse violence...well, for that, you'd have to ask the individual. Certainly there's no male monopoly on violence.

You are insane. So women are human beings, not perfect beings, therefore violence statistics don't mean anything. When over 90 percent of murders are committed by men then that's not something that can be dismissed.
So why are you pretending to stand up for women in this? If women are 'just as violent as men' then why would they need ANY kind of separate spaces from men?
It's not just direct violence anyway. I don't know if it's the testosterone, but men definitely have an overblown sense of entitlement that women don't have. I have NEVER seen a woman endangering pedestrians by cycling on the footpath. Men do it all the time, and not remotely cautiously or considerately either. These are not wide footpaths. That's just one example. I have NEVER seen a woman walking an obviously dangerous dog off the leash or with one loose in a playground. These are both ways in which men have the opportunity to be menacing and dangerous with minimal risk to themselves. A prison term for either is unlikely if someone is killed or maimed due to those activities. I have never seen a woman speeding on a residential street in a noisy shit-box doing 'burnouts', often ending up going out of control and demolishing someone's fence or house, or killing someone. I've never seen women spitting in the street, noisily and disgustingly--yet another opportunity to be passive/aggressively menacing and violent with little or no risk of consequences. I have also NEVER seen a woman loudly making a scene in a restaurant over some made-up complaint in order to get out of paying a large bill. The list is endless.
It's MEN screaming about not being allowed in women's changing rooms and toilets, not WOMEN screaming about not being allowed in men's ones.
This is all bullying behaviour. Bullying and intimidation.
You don't have a clue about women's life experience.

[Immanuel Can]

So women are human beings, not perfect beings, therefore violence statistics don't mean anything.

That's your argument, not mine. I never said that.

I simply pointed out what any woman already will tell you; that women are quite capable of being psychologically vicious to each other. That doesn't imply men aren't violent, sometimes. It just means that the type of violence in play is often different.

I guess your experience is different...that no woman has ever been unkind to you. Lucky you.

[accelafine]

So women are human beings, not perfect beings, therefore violence statistics don't mean anything.

That's your argument, not mine. I never said that.

I simply pointed out what any woman already will tell you; that women are quite capable of being psychologically vicious to each other. That doesn't imply men aren't violent, sometimes. It just means that the type of violence in play is often different.

I guess your experience is different...that no woman has ever been unkind to you. Lucky you.

Where did I say women are never unkind? How is that even relevant to this?

[accelafine]

You asked. I delivered.

Funny for somebody who keeps talking about it....

Hmmm...you're not listening. It's the Feminists who make you a "TERF." I'd just call you sane...at least, about this one issue, though your antipathy to men is still pretty lunatic.

Given male violence of every kind, it's pretty understandable.

Violence is not at all limited to males. But physical violence is more prevalent among them. Verbal violence, exclusionary violence, character assassination, psychological tyranny, these are the common tools of female violence. And it's not less than male violence; it's just in a less overt and more easily-concealed form. Women generally get away with it. Men often do not.

When I ask women if they have ever experienced physical violence from men, most (though decidedly not all) say, "No, not really." When I ask them if they've ever experienced things like character assassination, shaming, being shut out, cyber-bullying, reputation-destruction, ganging up, and so forth from women, then every single one of them says they have. I've never met one who said, "No, women are all lovely and kind." They can all repeat horror stories of being psychologically bullied by their rivals, many of which they carry resentment for into adulthood.

So the phrase "male violence" is a bit misleading. It's really "human violence," coming in different kinds. But whether a boy's black eye from a bully in the schoolyard or a girls shattered ego from the cruelties inflicted on her by female peers is worse violence...well, for that, you'd have to ask the individual. Certainly there's no male monopoly on violence.

Do you regularly go around asking random women if they've experienced 'male violence'? What a strange man you are. I would say that most women have. I would even go so far as to say I know that most women have. Just because a woman (allegedly) says 'no, not really' to you doesn't mean she hasn't.

[Martin Peter Clarke]

So, can anyone with a willy play male sports? Is that unfair on anyone? Apart from hormonally artificially female, genetically male people, artificially or accidentally without willies, who can't play female sports? Because that's not fair to hormonally and genetically female sports... persons. Whereas the 'unfairly'... genetically female person who is naturally high in androgens can play female sports. No?

A woman is not a castrated man. It makes no difference if a man has a 'willy' or not. Women have been injured and even brain-damaged by these cheating arseholes. No amount of 'androgens' is EVER going to come close to the amount of testorstone in men and the enormous phyical advantages men gain at puberty.

Agreed, accelafine.

There is barely a woman in my circle of loved ones, who has not suffered male violence. Five, of my closest alone. In a city where that many a year are murdered by their partners alone. I can only hang my head. Not in guilt. But shame for my kind.

[Immanuel Can]

So women are human beings, not perfect beings, therefore violence statistics don't mean anything.

That's your argument, not mine. I never said that.

I simply pointed out what any woman already will tell you; that women are quite capable of being psychologically vicious to each other. That doesn't imply men aren't violent, sometimes. It just means that the type of violence in play is often different.

I guess your experience is different...that no woman has ever been unkind to you. Lucky you.

Where did I say women are never unkind? How is that even relevant to this?

Ah. So you're yet another case of the proof of the truth of what I said: women are very capable of violence, but just of a different kind.

[Immanuel Can]

Do you regularly go around asking random women if they've experienced 'male violence'?

No. If you want to know how many vicious things other women have done to them, you hardly have to ask...just mention the possibility, and every one of them will have an anecdote.

[accelafine]

Wow. What a revelation. Women aren't always 'nice' to each other. That's really the same thing as someone being beaten to a pulp by man, raped, had their children murdered by their own father as an act of revenge (a lot more common than you think).
I'm sure the little kristian misogynist will make himself busy googling exceptions ''Ah, but there was a woman in 1986 who beat her dwarf husband to death blah blah blah''. The exceptions prove the rule, you disingenuous little man. You are misusing and abusing language, just like wokies love to do.
'Convictions for violent crimes against' does not include 'making bitchy comments to, flirting with your friend's husband....'

[Immanuel Can]

Wow. What a revelation. Women aren't always 'nice' to each other.

That's just it: it's not a revelation. All women know it, and you know it.

That's really the same thing as someone being beaten to a pulp...

If you believe that, get help. But the point is much simpler: there's no exclusive relationship between maleness and violence. Women are quite capable of all kinds of violence...physical, reputational, psychological, financial, social...

[accelafine]

Wow. What a revelation. Women aren't always 'nice' to each other.

That's just it: it's not a revelation. All women know it, and you know it.

That's really the same thing as someone being beaten to a pulp...

If you believe that, get help. But the point is much simpler: there's no exclusive relationship between maleness and violence. Women are quite capable of all kinds of violence...physical, reputational, psychological, financial, social...

As I said, than you for your stunning revelations. And try to work on your reading comprehension.

[Immanuel Can]

Wow. What a revelation. Women aren't always 'nice' to each other.

That's just it: it's not a revelation. All women know it, and you know it.

That's really the same thing as someone being beaten to a pulp...

If you believe that, get help. But the point is much simpler: there's no exclusive relationship between maleness and violence. Women are quite capable of all kinds of violence...physical, reputational, psychological, financial, social...

As I said, than you for your stunning revelations. And try to work on your reading comprehension.

I think you meant "thank you." "Than" isn't an English word, last time I checked.