Corporation Socialism

[Pistolero]

Dangerous when surrounded by infected fanatics that will be triggered by certain words.

Now you know why I exclude the likes of Mary, and her ilk, from my forum.

Nothing constructive can be attempted when fanatics rally and swarm a topic, at the mere mention of certain words....like zombies.
individuated herd instincts triggers by sound, or a smell....in this case an idea.

Surviving the Zombie Apocalypse requires creative methods of evading their fangs.

I can relate to the idea of “avoiding infection”.

Mind-viruses, psychic overheating, religious zealotry, over-the-top emotional obsessions …

I don’t know who Mary is …

Mary Land?
You know her as iamasubjectiveemoter....
The one that nags and repeats, without ever reading anything that challenges her fractured and fragments schizophrenia?
Her name is Mary. You think she's male, but in our postmodern world a biological male can be more feminine than a biological female....

[Pistolero]

I can relate to the idea of “avoiding infection”.

Mind-viruses, psychic overheating, religious zealotry, over-the-top emotional obsessions …

How do parasites enter a host and take over its faculties.
Have you ever watched a documentary on Zombifying parasites?
Well, what if there were ideologies that did the same?
Selfish memes, hijacking a man' consciousness, using him as a proxy to propagate itself.
Such a man would be an empty husk - a proverbial zombie.
He would have no biological identity.

Watch zombie films. Zombies have no sex, no race, no culture....only hunger.
Your own mother would be unrecognizable if she were infected. She would not consider you her son, but another proxy that remain uninfected.
They are individuals but act, as a swarm...as a collective.
No leader required.
Their hunger responses triggered by...words.
Pavlovian.

how would ideological aprasites propagate?
Linguistically, form mind to mind....
Their effect would be a gradual disconnection from reality. Their words would have no referents in a shared world.
All that would drive them is the ideology and its survival...a need, an insatiable hunger compelling them to infect those that remain uninfected.
Messianic. Globalizing.
All must be infected.

Don't imagine....look around you.
It is fact.

[Immanuel Can]

That's very funny. My prime motive is to be other than what God has made me? Not a bit. He's made me what, where and when He wishes me to be. But I do not dishonour my Jewish brothers by indulging in antisemitism, as some here do.

Understanding your prime motive is not likely your own chosen focus.

I don't think you do. But I certainly believe you think you do.

My prime motive, as the name "Christian" implies, is learning to be closer to Christ, in all the ways that may be possible. There isn't anything that comes within a thousand miles of that objective for a Christian, and certainly not trans-ethnic transformation of some kind. There is, as Paul says, "in Christ, neither Jew nor Gentile." So that is really a matter of the very smallest import.

[Alexis Jacobi]

I don't think you do. But I certainly believe you think you do.

Of course. It would be extremely unlikely that you would agree with the ideas I have formed about you (as an Evangelical Christian in our present).

And yes, you are right, I believe that some of my ideas are valid (or are accurate and fair).

Also true that no one enjoys or relishes coming under “analytical lenses” and most will resist being analyzed.

Yet, this is what we are all called to do! Analyze the positions put forward here; and (one hopes) subject ourselves to self-scrutiny.

My prime motive, as the name "Christian" implies, is learning to be closer to Christ, in all the ways that may be possible. There isn't anything that comes within a thousand miles of that objective for a Christian, and certainly not trans-ethnic transformation of some kind. There is, as Paul says, "in Christ, neither Jew nor Gentile." So that is really a matter of the very smallest import.

I would not want to imply that the stated objective is superficial, but I do very much suspect that in all of us there are ranges of “motive”.

I also actually think that the notion of the figure of Christ is profoundly wedded to very deep-seated (psychological) motives or impulses. So from that perspective mass Christianity can certainly be examined and even “studied”. And the motives that move there are more involved and complex than, say, the stated objectives.

It will always be the same with you, Immanuel! You are simultaneously totally closed to analysis though you have a genuinely analytical mind.

It is less important that you “see yourself” and as always more important that others learn how to see you accurately and fairly.

[Pistolero]

Funny thing...determinism supports race realism and the idea that they are predictable...entirely determined by their past.

Cause: less adverse environments.
Effect = lower median IQ

They CHOOSE to ignore 70 000 years of causality to focus on social effects in the last 4-6 thousand years.
More precisely in the last few hundred years, because before that men did not believe the myths these moderns do.

[Alexis Jacobi]

Their effect would be a gradual disconnection from reality. Their words would have no referents in a shared world.

All that would drive them is the ideology and its survival...a need, an insatiable hunger compelling them to infect those that remain uninfected.

Messianic. Globalizing.

All must be infected.

Don't imagine....look around you.

It is fact.

It is a perspective — a fact if you will — that most can understand when presented as you do.

It is not a little insidious however! Essentially you are saying we live in an infected world. That we are beings prone to infection.

It is a critical position with no stated antidote.

[Pistolero]

It is a perspective — a fact if you will — that most can understand when presented as you do.

It is not a little insidious however! Essentially you are saying we live in an infected world. That we are beings prone to infection.

It is a critical position with no stated antidote.

I'm offering a diagnosis. Mentoring the symptoms.
We live in a world with no accessible frontiers. A breeding ground for vermin and diseases.

When did Christianity emerge and when did Buddhism emerge?
In my thesis, Christianity is to Hellenism what Buddhism is to Hinduism.
A nihilistic adaptation imposed by population pressures, necessitating some degree of self-abnegation.
Environment dictates what survival strategy will be most effective.

Watch the Behavioral Sink involving rats.
More than a thought experiment.

The antidote follows a proper diagnosis and understanding of the dis-ease.
This one is memetic, a.k.a ideological....linguistic.
Any antidote will have to involved language and how to cure its magian infection by a linguistically transmitted parasite.

I offered a first step in my threat in metaphysics Sequences.


Sometimes to cure a disease you must let it run its course.
It will destroy itself.
A parasite dies when the host, inevitably dies.
This may eliminate some of the unfit mutations infecting the west - not the US, not the Judaeo-Christian west....the west properly identified.

To what extent does the deliberate choice to leave tasks undone reflect a deeper understanding of personal agency, and how might this selective inaction be interpreted as a form of mastery rather than neglect within the framework of existential or stoic thought?

[Immanuel Can]

Also true that no one enjoys or relishes coming under “analytical lenses” and most will resist being analyzed.

It's usually not a problem when the analysis is perceptive and right. In fact, it's often a relief to hear oneself understood and revealed to one's own deeper understanding. That's why people seek out psychologists and counsellors -- people who really know how to perform that kind of analysis.

But nobody likes posers who think they are analyzing when they're just mounting up heaps of whimsy in their own brains, and who misrepresent others to the public and to themselves. And when the same are overweeningly smug in their wrongness, then some "resistance" is certainly called for.

Not that I speak of anyone here, of course...

My prime motive, as the name "Christian" implies, is learning to be closer to Christ, in all the ways that may be possible. There isn't anything that comes within a thousand miles of that objective for a Christian, and certainly not trans-ethnic transformation of some kind. There is, as Paul says, "in Christ, neither Jew nor Gentile." So that is really a matter of the very smallest import.

I would not want to imply that the stated objective is superficial, but I do very much suspect that in all of us there are ranges of “motive”.

Of course. But not all motives are equal, of course. It's the big ones that determine what one chooses to do.

It will always be the same with you, Immanuel! You are simultaneously totally closed to analysis though you have a genuinely analytical mind.

I'll let you know the first time you actually get your analysis right, then. It's only fair: one should "resist" the wrong, and acknowledge the right.

It is less important that you “see yourself” and as always more important that others learn how to see you accurately and fairly.

Well, I'll wait for you to do that, then.

Promises, promises.

Anything useful to say about Corporation Socialism? Or are you just determined to waste our time on your alleged psychological insights, again?

[Alexis Jacobi]

I'll let you know the first time you actually get your analysis right, then. It's only fair: one should "resist" the wrong, and acknowledge the right.

It is unfortunate for this analysis that on this forum you have a nearly 100% disfavored reputation! You are not regarded as someone who can be trusted.

So, a problem arises when you emphatically state “You have interpreted me wrongly”. It leads to the suspicion that “This man does not know himself”.

To a degree I think these are issues of your personality. But more importantly I think that whatever this issue of dishonesty actually is (it is hard to pin-point) it is something that pertains to religious fanaticism in the postmodern era.

But I have to admit that I do not understand “it”.

Anything useful to say about Corporation Socialism? Or are you just determined to waste our time on your alleged psychological insights, again?

When you use the 3rd person plural who are you including?

What is the relevancy, do you think, of psychological insight generally? (I acknowledge that you think that which I offer is defective.)

Is psychological analysis ever valid?

[Pistolero]

Psychoanalysis explores the very source of philosophy - the subjective agent. Man.
Corrupted man creates corrupted worldviews, based no corrupted philosophies.

You begin with language. The means by which the human subject relates to himself and his existence.
Language is where you'll find his disease.

[Immanuel Can]

I'll let you know the first time you actually get your analysis right, then. It's only fair: one should "resist" the wrong, and acknowledge the right.

It is unfortunate for this analysis that on this forum you have a nearly 100% disfavored reputation!

100% by you, perhaps. But I don't really even believe you think that. I don't try to psychoanalyze people I don't know, on the basis of no more than a cyber identity, so there's not much to mistrust, in that regard.

You should really stay in your lane...talking about what you know, not what you don't. You don't gain any respect by exposing your lack of skill in psychoanalysis. And as for what "the 100%" thinks, I really don't believe you know that, either.

Anything useful to say about Corporation Socialism? Or are you just determined to waste our time on your alleged psychological insights, again?

When you use the 3rd person plural who are you including?

Everybody. You should notice the subject here, and see if you can contribute something to it.

[Pistolero]

In fact....you can glean the true person in forums where monikers are used and men display their true selves unobstructed by platitudes and image, and so on. The real person is displayed. His beliefs and the reasoning he uses, expose the qualities of his mind and his motives.
Word use, sentence structure, repetition and on and on.

His mind is on display. His judgments, revealed through his reasoning, his arguments....his word use, etc.
This does not mean that everyone can read the signs. Those who try to deny this fact are insecure or cannot read the signs.

A man can know another better than he can ever know himself....just as a man can know a chimpanzee better than a chimpanzee can ever know itself.
Women know this...mediocre men refuse to even consider it.

[Alexis Jacobi]

AJ: It is unfortunate for this analysis that on this forum you have a nearly 100% disfavored reputation!

IC:100% by you, perhaps. But I don't really even believe you think that.

I am certain you have a disfavored reputation. No doubt there. It surprises me greatly that you are unaware.

However, I also think you key-into some genuinely important analysis.

Also note that I do not psychoanalyze. I am aware of my and our psychology as an essential feature of our self, our ideas, our motives, and our worldview.

Never have I psychoanalyzed you however.

I think Evangelical Christians and Evangelical Christianity can be examined through the consideration of psychology however.

[Immanuel Can]

I am certain you have a disfavored reputation.

I am certain that you are full of postures that amount to nothing. So it really doesn't concern me what you declare yourself "certain" of.

[Alexis Jacobi]

I am wounded …