Why do guys who dress as girls get so much hate but not the other way around?

[Immanuel Can]

Transsexualism is rooted in Abrahamic superstitions, concerning kellipots trapping divine sparks, or in Christianity, "souls" trapped in despicablem sinful "bodies".
Often trapping souls in the "wrong bodies."
Ooopsie...

The same logic....but it proves to be threatening to the faithful...so douchebags, like Peterson, had to step in, before the logic of Abrahamism, could destroy the entire cult.

The allegory of the Jesus narrative is about the body being sacrificed to "release" the soul - divine spark - so that ti can return to its original uniformity.....God.
So, in Abrahamism all physical traits are illusory.....and the spirit/spark, has neither race, nor sex....
It is pure and unblemished by the physical.
When Jesus is "reborn" he comes back as "pure spirit" - meaning pure ideal.
A linguistic abstraction that can embody any form.
The entire dogma is nihilistic - nature hating.
I seduces all those who find nature unjust and cruel....all those seeking relief, i.e., salvation.

You're actually describing Gnosticism, not Christianity or Judaism. Gnosticism was not genuinely "Abrahamic." It was a mystical cult that grew up alongside both of the former, and employed the names of the people listed in those Scriptures in new "narratives" that denigrated the body, elevated the idea of "spirit" and claimed that "salvation" meant the reunion of the disembodied soul with the mystical "Divine."

Genesis neither supports that narrative nor that conclusion. Nor do any of the Christian Scriptures. In fact, it's likely that the entire book of Colossians was written primarily to dispatch the Gnostic heresy, since it debunks key Gnostic terms like "pleroma".

Thought you'd want to know that.

[Consul]

Transsexualism is rooted in Abrahamic superstitions, concerning kellipots trapping divine sparks, or in Christianity, "souls" trapped in despicablem sinful "bodies".
Often trapping souls in the "wrong bodies."
Ooopsie...

The notion of transsexualism (transsexuality) as defined in the older ICD-10 doesn't presuppose body-soul dualism:

"transsexualism: a desire to live and be accepted as a member of the opposite sex, usually accompanied by a sense of discomfort with, or inappropriateness of, one's anatomic sex and a wish to have hormonal treatment and surgery to make one's body as congruent as possible with the preferred sex." — ICD-10: F64.0

So, basically, the mental state of transsexuality consists in the (intense and permanent) desire or wish to be a member of the opposite sex.

[Consul]

You are wrong, because transvestism and travesty aren't the same thing. Yes, there are male transvestites who are (interested in) doing travesty, but there are also many ones who are not.

While Transvestism (cross-dressing) is not by definition a travesty, it often involves a convoluted view of one's self and the need to force others to believe in your delusion that you are something other than you are, which is the travesty.

You can wear what you want, but it typically does not stop there because they expect others to believe that the way they dress literally makes them the opposite sex.

"Typically"? – I strongly doubt there are many (transsexual or non-transsexual) male transvestites who seriously believe and also expect others to believe that wearing women's clothes literally turns them into women.

[accelafine]

You are wrong, because transvestism and travesty aren't the same thing. Yes, there are male transvestites who are (interested in) doing travesty, but there are also many ones who are not.

While Transvestism (cross-dressing) is not by definition a travesty, it often involves a convoluted view of one's self and the need to force others to believe in your delusion that you are something other than you are, which is the travesty.

You can wear what you want, but it typically does not stop there because they expect others to believe that the way they dress literally makes them the opposite sex.

"Typically"? – I strongly doubt there are many (transsexual or non-transsexual) male transvestites who seriously believe and also expect others to believe that wearing women's clothes literally turns them into women.

Actually none of them do. It's the biggest con job ever performed on the human race. People are so easy to brainwash it's almost unbelievable. We have middle-aged men playing in sports teams with young (of course) women which includes using the changing rooms with them. Less than a decade ago these creeps would have been shunned as the perverts they are. Now they are lauded and fawned over as 'stunning and brave'.
There doesn't seem to be any way out of this mess--apart from an Everest-sized one from space.

[Consul]

Not just to "believe," but to "affirm" and to modify one's own speech and deny one's own perception of reality by using "pronouns" forced upon everybody else by the autogynephile. They insist that they are being "erased" or "deadnamed" if you stick to your own perception of truth, and they insist it's a "hate crime" if you don't "affirm" not their real identity but the one they wish to impose on you.

Who are they?
Transvestites and transsexuals don't speak with one voice! Not all of them endorse the woke philosophy & politics of (trans)gender!
Anyway, transvestism and transsexualism as such (i.e. as sexual dispositions) aren't political isms or ideologies, and they aren't wedded to any of them either.

[accelafine]

So-called 'gender ideology' is 'the emperor's new clothes' on a global scale.

[Immanuel Can]

Not just to "believe," but to "affirm" and to modify one's own speech and deny one's own perception of reality by using "pronouns" forced upon everybody else by the autogynephile. They insist that they are being "erased" or "deadnamed" if you stick to your own perception of truth, and they insist it's a "hate crime" if you don't "affirm" not their real identity but the one they wish to impose on you.

Who are they?

The guys who want us to pretend they're girls, of course. And it doesn't matter what reason they give...sexual fantasy, fashion preference, a chance to plug for Bud Lite, or to enter the women's division in swimming, or get into the library to groom children... Nobody is under any obligation whatsoever to help them sustain their idiotic role-playing or sexual peculiarities.

[Pistolero]

The notion of transsexualism (transsexuality) as defined in the older ICD-10 doesn't presuppose body-soul dualism:

The notion of "identity" being other than the apparent body, does imply mind/body dissonance, founded on mind/body dualism.

So, basically, the mental state of transsexuality consists in the (intense and permanent) desire or wish to be a member of the opposite sex.

And it claims that it is a feminine indemnity 'trapped' in the 'wrong' gender.

It is a psychotic separation of mind from the physically apparent, claiming that 'gender' like 'spirit' is not physical but abstract.....which is what the idea of a spirit is.
An abstract identity, with no local, and no corporeality, defined as being the opposite of the body.
An immortal soul trapped in a mortal body.
A soul lacking biological identity, e.g., race, ethnicity, sex, as opposed to the body which is entirely biologically identifiable.

The same psychosis evolves, as do all ideologies.
Abraham sim has evolved secular versions, one being Marxism, the other being a offshoot: postmodernism.

[Pistolero]

You're actually describing Gnosticism, not Christianity or Judaism. Gnosticism was not genuinely "Abrahamic." It was a mystical cult that grew up alongside both of the former, and employed the names of the people listed in those Scriptures in new "narratives" that denigrated the body, elevated the idea of "spirit" and claimed that "salvation" meant the reunion of the disembodied soul with the mystical "Divine."

Gnosticism was an offshoot of Abrahamism and Orphic mysticism....leading to Kabbalism.

The Jews appropriated spiritual ideas from every host they were expelled from, beginning with Egyptian monotheism, and mysticism.
Nothing original about Judaism.

Christianity is Judaized Platonism.

Genesis neither supports that narrative nor that conclusion. Nor do any of the Christian Scriptures. In fact, it's likely that the entire book of Colossians was written primarily to dispatch the Gnostic heresy, since it debunks key Gnostic terms like "pleroma".

Thought you'd want to know that.

The idea that a immortal soul is trapped in a mortal body, comes form the Jews and their kellipots.....this has evolved into the secular version detaching identity from the physically apparent.

Christianity incorporated many aspects of Hellenic lore into its superstitions, to make Jewish victim identity digestible to pagans.
The Big Christian Lie

What is Gnosticism? - Bart Erhman

[accelafine]

You're actually describing Gnosticism, not Christianity or Judaism. Gnosticism was not genuinely "Abrahamic." It was a mystical cult that grew up alongside both of the former, and employed the names of the people listed in those Scriptures in new "narratives" that denigrated the body, elevated the idea of "spirit" and claimed that "salvation" meant the reunion of the disembodied soul with the mystical "Divine."

Gnosticism was an offshoot of Abrahamism and Orphic mysticism....leading to Kabbalism.

The Jews appropriated spiritual ideas from every host they were expelled from, beginning with Egyptian monotheism, and mysticism.
Nothing original about Judaism.

Christianity is Judaized Platonism.

Genesis neither supports that narrative nor that conclusion. Nor do any of the Christian Scriptures. In fact, it's likely that the entire book of Colossians was written primarily to dispatch the Gnostic heresy, since it debunks key Gnostic terms like "pleroma".

Thought you'd want to know that.

The idea that a immortal soul is trapped in a mortal body, comes form the Jews and their kellipots.....this has evolved into the secular version detaching identity from the physically apparent.

Christianity incorporated many aspects of Hellenic lore into its superstitions, to make Jewish victim identity digestible to pagans.
The Big Christian Lie

What is Gnosticism? - Bart Erhman

Right. Everything is 'the Jews' fault, even 'transgenderism'. Ya know, sometimes people actually ARE victims, arsehole.

[Pistolero]

No, dear....not "everything".
Your attempt to belittle and dismiss, to continue on with your conventional thinking, is insufficient.

Judaism is dominant, at this period in history, for one basic reason....it dominates the United States and through Christianity, the west.
The seductive appeal of Abrahamism is that it comforts the world's downtrodden....as it did Rome's slaves.
The idea that the ones that feel unjustly wronged by nature, is very seductive to humans that are alive because of human interventions.
.
Americanism is infected by Judaism, and through America's dominance, ti is attempting to dominate the world - Americanism = Globalism.
Messianism is an Abrahamic trait.
This is obvious in Trump claiming that the US has been taken advantage by its own vassal states.
Victimhood is another trait of Abrahamism.

Imagine a hyper-power accusing its provinces that they are taking advantage its "benevolent generosity."

They Whip you and cry out in pain....

[accelafine]

No, dear....not "everything".
Your attempt to belittle and dismiss, to continue on with your conventional thinking, is insufficient.

Judaism is dominant, at this period in history, for one basic reason....it dominates the United States and through Christianity, the west.
Americanism is infected by Judaism, and through America's dominance, ti is attempting to dominate the world - Americanism = Globalism.
Messianism is an Abrahamic trait.
This is obvious in Trump claiming that the US has been taken advantage by its own vassal states.
Victimhood is another trait of Abrahamism.

Imagine a hyper-power accusing its provinces that they are taking advantage its "benevolent generosity."

They Whip you and cry out in pain....

Any evidence for this? It doesn't even make any logical sense. You are fucking insane. Go back to your cage. You aren't welcome here.

[Pistolero]

You protest too much, my dear.
The "evidence" is before your eyes, but you refuse to see.

Such anger....did I touch a nerve?

Do you want me to go, so that you can continue gifting the men-children your womanly wisdom?

[accelafine]

You protest too much, my dear.
The "evidence" is before your eyes, but you refuse to see.

Such anger....did I touch a nerve?

Do you want me to go, so that you can continue gifting the men-children your womanly wisdom?

What's wrong with anger? Are you trying to 'anger shame' me?

[Pistolero]

No....anger exposes...as do all the passions.
Including love.

I want you as passionate as possible.

Emotion vampire.