Why do guys who dress as girls get so much hate but not the other way around?

[Immanuel Can]

Ok dear.

Here's a bunch of Feminists: in fact, the managers of a government bureau dedicated to nothing but the welfare of "women." Let's see what problem they're having... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H43OpR7x2Q

[accelafine]

Thanks for proving my point over and over again little man, but I really don't need your 'help'

[Age]

I think the word will refers to the act of focusing on an objective, and the word 'free' is a qualifier of will, like 'strong' or 'weak.'

I'm sure you've experienced will in yourself, friend, or would you require an explanation and indisputable evidence before you even begin to think for yourself?

you OBVIOUSLY are NOT ABLE to back up and support "yourself", here.

And, if you are SURE that I have experienced your OWN definition of 'will' in "myself", then okay. But, you are OBVIOUSLY NOT thinking FULLY NOR Correctly, here.

Freedom, on the other hand is more abstract, and can be connected to power.
A will's freedom is determined by its power - Will to Power.

NONSENSICAL in relation to just 'the act of focusing on some thing'.

If you prefer to define words in ways that satisfy a particular conclusion, then you are 'free' to do as you 'will.'

And, 'you' have just PROVIDE A PRIME example of you DOING 'this' VERY thing, itself.

[Flannel Jesus]

easy to see how preposterous your proposals are

Preposterous that women be allowed to choose their own fate?

I thought you were supposed to be some kind of feminist. You don't think women can be trusted to choose?

Are you suggesting free-will is not an illusion?

I'm not talking about free will at all silly boy

[Pistolero]

Are you not?
Is choice an illusion?

[Consul]

'Men's clothes' are basically just neutral clothes that anyone can wear. I haven't seen any women walking around the streets in tuxedos or suits and ties, but they would need to get them custom made to fit and I doubt if any women could be bothered going to that much effort. Most men don't wear tuxedos or suits either-- and if they do it's only when they have to. What we are talking about are sex specific 'women's clothes' that give some men a sexual high when they wear them.

Some distinctions need to be made:
1. There is a distinction between unisex clothes and non-unisex clothes (men's clothes vs. women's clothes).
2. There is a distinction between erotic (sexy) non-unisex clothes and non-erotic (non-sexy) non-unisex clothes.
3. There is a distinction between fetishistic transvestism and non-fetishistic transvestism.

[Consul]

Men get a sexual kick out of it and they get to bully and intimidate women at the same time.

LOL CLAIMING that ALL 'men' get 'this' could NOT BE MORE IRRATIONAL and False.

Right!
1. It is not true that all male transvestites are fetishists or autogynephiles.
2. It is not true that all fetishistic or autogynephilic male transvestites are misogynists.

[Consul]

Transvestites are only interested in mocking, parodying and 'superseding' women.

You are wrong, because transvestism and travesty aren't the same thing. Yes, there are male transvestites who are (interested in) doing travesty, but there are also many ones who are not.

[accelafine]

'Men's clothes' are basically just neutral clothes that anyone can wear. I haven't seen any women walking around the streets in tuxedos or suits and ties, but they would need to get them custom made to fit and I doubt if any women could be bothered going to that much effort. Most men don't wear tuxedos or suits either-- and if they do it's only when they have to. What we are talking about are sex specific 'women's clothes' that give some men a sexual high when they wear them.

Some distinctions need to be made:
1. There is a distinction between unisex clothes and non-unisex clothes (men's clothes vs. women's clothes).
2. There is a distinction between erotic (sexy) non-unisex clothes and non-erotic (non-sexy) non-unisex clothes.
3. There is a distinction between fetishistic transvestism and non-fetishistic transvestism.

You seem to know a lot about it, whoever you are. Thanks for the mansplanation anyway. It's greatly appreciated.

Ps. I don't care. Just stay out of women's spaces and wear what you like, no matter how revolting and offensive it is.

[Age]

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[Trajk Logik]

Transvestites are only interested in mocking, parodying and 'superseding' women.

You are wrong, because transvestism and travesty aren't the same thing. Yes, there are male transvestites who are (interested in) doing travesty, but there are also many ones who are not.

While Transvestism (cross-dressing) is not by definition a travesty, it often involves a convoluted view of one's self and the need to force others to believe in your delusion that you are something other than you are, which is the travesty.

You can wear what you want, but it typically does not stop there because they expect others to believe that the way they dress literally makes them the opposite sex.

[henry quirk]

While Transvestism (cross-dressing) is not by definition a travesty, it often involves a convoluted view of one's self and the need to force others to believe in your delusion that you are something other than you are, which is the travesty.

You can wear what you want, but it typically does not stop there because they expect others to believe that the way they dress literally makes them the opposite sex.

[Immanuel Can]

While Transvestism (cross-dressing) is not by definition a travesty, it often involves a convoluted view of one's self and the need to force others to believe in your delusion that you are something other than you are, which is the travesty.

You can wear what you want, but it typically does not stop there because they expect others to believe that the way they dress literally makes them the opposite sex.

Not just to "believe," but to "affirm" and to modify one's own speech and deny one's own perception of reality by using "pronouns" forced upon everybody else by the autogynephile. They insist that they are being "erased" or "deadnamed" if you stick to your own perception of truth, and they insist it's a "hate crime" if you don't "affirm" not their real identity but the one they wish to impose on you.

[henry quirk]

While Transvestism (cross-dressing) is not by definition a travesty, it often involves a convoluted view of one's self and the need to force others to believe in your delusion that you are something other than you are, which is the travesty.

You can wear what you want, but it typically does not stop there because they expect others to believe that the way they dress literally makes them the opposite sex.

Not just to "believe," but to "affirm" and to modify one's own speech and deny one's own perception of reality by using "pronouns" forced upon everybody else by the autogynephile. They insist that they are being "erased" or "deadnamed" if you stick to your own perception of truth, and they insist it's a "hate crime" if you don't "affirm" not their real identity but the one they wish to impose on you.

Yep.

It's *penguins all the way down...
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[Pistolero]

Transsexualism is rooted in Abrahamic superstitions, concerning kellipots trapping divine sparks, or in Christianity, "souls" trapped in despicablem sinful "bodies".
Often trapping souls in the "wrong bodies."
Ooopsie...

The same logic....but it proves to be threatening to the faithful...so douchebags, like Peterson, had to step in, before the logic of Abrahamism, could destroy the entire cult.

The allegory of the Jesus narrative is about the body being sacrificed to "release" the soul - divine spark - so that ti can return to its original uniformity.....God.
So, in Abrahamism all physical traits are illusory.....and the spirit/spark, has neither race, nor sex....
It is pure and unblemished by the physical.
When Jesus is "reborn" he comes back as "pure spirit" - meaning pure ideal.
A linguistic abstraction that can embody any form.
The entire dogma is nihilistic - nature hating.
I seduces all those who find nature unjust and cruel....all those seeking relief, i.e., salvation.