The Shroud of Turin, compelling evidence..

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Re: The Shroud of Turin, compelling evidence..

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promethean75 wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:48 pm I don't trust the writings of anyone who ends up on a Planck. The guy must have said something pretty bad, mate.
You appear to be confused between the terms, Planck and plank.

..we are always walking the Planck. :wink:
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Re: The Shroud of Turin, compelling evidence..

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Shroud of Turin – Dr John Campbell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT1R2kDPHFA&t=0s
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attofishpi wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 11:46 pmScientists admit that they could not even reproduce the artifact using today's technology.
On the other hand, if it is unequivocally true that science today still fails to replicate it, "to reproduce the artifact using today's technology" please link me to the arguments, the evidence, the bottom line, etc., that convinced you of this.
The evidence is explained in the video. The reason I insist on this video is because it has footage of microscopic analysis among other things that show the fibres and how they have individually been radiated.

From your google link:-

Carbon-14 Dating:
In 1988, an international team of scientists performed radiocarbon dating on the shroud, concluding that it was not from the time of Christ's crucifixion (1st century AD) but from the medieval period (1260-1390 AD).


My points are:-
1. Even if that date is accurate (as it was taken from a repair done since the shroud had been burnt at around that date) this is long before photography. The image IS a negative image of photographic quality.

2. The radiation image on the shroud has now been found with current technology to have grayscale (hue) changes with enough information that NASA technology has been used and has shown that the image is a 3D image of a body in rigor-mortis.

3. This was my google search regarding more recent scientific analysis of the sample that had the dates at (1260-1390 AD):-



From google:

Laser Experiments:
In 2011, researchers from the European Nuclear Energy Agency (ENEA) successfully replicated the shallow depth and coloration of the Shroud image using a 40-nanosecond burst from an ultraviolet excimer laser on raw linen fabrics.

Mechanism:
The laser pulses scorched the fabric with similar microscopic properties to the Shroud, creating a permanent coloration, but only penetrating the required 0.2–0.4 microns of the 300 micron wide cellulose fibers.

Implications:
This research suggests that a short, intense burst of ultraviolet radiation could have created the image on the Shroud.

Origin of the Image:
The researchers propose that the image may have been formed by a "flash of light" or a similar phenomenon, but the exact mechanism and technology used at the time of the Shroud's creation remain a mystery.
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Re: The Shroud of Turin, compelling evidence..

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promethean75 wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:20 pm "About Harb and I can you repeat the question"

Oh uh... never mind, i was... i was uh... oh yeah.. asking if he was around because you two make a great match.

I gotta go. I'm reading a MAX STIRNER book right now, not a Max Bygraves book. I would never read a Max Bygraves book. Kay bye.
Yes but would you listen to him?

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And what do you call a guy in a coat?
Two guys in coats?
In a cemetery?

I'd love to read a mystery-crime novel with Stirner as a main character.
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Re: The Shroud of Turin, compelling evidence..

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attofishpi wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 7:09 am Recently an atheist friend of mine told me that he is now convinced that the Shroud of Turin is indeed the burial shroud of Christ.

I had heard of the shroud probably since being in a Catholic school, thus a long time ago, and I always thought that is was proven to be a fake from around the 15th century.

I watched the video below and I now am also convinced that it truly is a ‘miraculous’ object.

Please do watch the entire video if you are going to make comment within this thread, also the second video regarding a letter Pontius Pilate sent to Caesar regarding Jesus Christ is fascinating.


Shroud of Turin – Dr John Campbell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT1R2kDPHFA&t=0s



Acta Pilate (Letter of Pilate to Caesar about Jesus, His Crucifixion & Resurrection) - ARCHKO VOL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQUJGce ... ex=30&t=0s

www.androcies.com
You do know that the letter of Pilate to Caesar about Jesus is considered an apocryphal text, right?
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