DARK GOTHIC MAGA: How Tech Billionaires Plan to Destroy America

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FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 1:29 pm A vacuum was created. It has been filled by a bunch of tech-bros who don't care about tantrums because they throw them too. They have an ideology and some half-smart people to help them write it down. You'll be running some sort of special about Deneen, Yarvin and Girard one day.

This isn't really anything new, there's always a set of well-heeled blue sky thinker types to attempt a takeover whenever the drift of popular sentiment supports the possibility of radical change.
More accurately it really is “something new”. An important player — a vice-president and a man likely to become a presidential candidate — who is becoming familiar with anti-liberal or counter-liberal political theory. It is rather momentous really.

What we are witnessing now — chaos, upset, both foregrounded and also behind-the-scenes machinations of a consequential order — is unlike any other moment in US history that I am aware of. Obviously, a crisis-point in US history. And at a moment in world history rife with all sorts of dangers.

I am glad (I say ironically) that you, Phyllo, Rick and others believe you have it all figured out and can pronounce judgments about what is happening, why, and what it means and portends. Your reactions are both typical and understandable as well.

Myself, I am suspicious of mere reaction. And it is a mood that is also exploited by media-systems. I do not have the clarity at this point to pronounce judgments quite so easily. I am unsure what “authoritative opinion” does have that clarity.
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henry quirk wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 1:24 pm
Alexiev wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 5:18 amI'm not naive.
I think you are, so: we'll have to agree to disagree.
I notice that you quoted me out of context, and appear to be too stupid to understand the definition of "represent".
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 4:28 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 1:29 pm A vacuum was created. It has been filled by a bunch of tech-bros who don't care about tantrums because they throw them too. They have an ideology and some half-smart people to help them write it down. You'll be running some sort of special about Deneen, Yarvin and Girard one day.

This isn't really anything new, there's always a set of well-heeled blue sky thinker types to attempt a takeover whenever the drift of popular sentiment supports the possibility of radical change.
More accurately it really is “something new”. An important player — a vice-president and a man likely to become a presidential candidate — who is becoming familiar with anti-liberal or counter-liberal political theory. It is rather momentous really.
I gave an example of why it wasn't new, so that's a fail right away.

Vance is one of the least charismatic Veeps ever, an ungainly couch molester whose own base doesn't trust him becasue he laughs at his own jokes when telepromted to. He would get massacred in an election by anybody who can just look more human than he can. His only two shots at becoming president are if Trump has been removed from office by use of the 25th, abdication or by death.

He'll probably be president for the Semiquincentennial, even if he has to push the old man down the stairs himself.
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I am glad (I say ironically) that you, Phyllo, Rick and others believe you have it all figured out and can pronounce judgments about what is happening, why, and what it means and portends. Your reactions are both typical and understandable as well.
Consolidation of power into the hands of one person has happened before, many times.

One has to be vigilant so that it doesn't happen again.

Study history and learn.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 5:21 pm I gave an example of why it wasn't new, so that's a fail right away.

Vance is one of the least charismatic Veeps ever, an ungainly couch molester whose own base doesn't trust him becasue he laughs at his own jokes when telepromted to. He would get massacred in an election by anybody who can just look more human than he can. His only two shots at becoming president are if Trump has been removed from office by use of the 25th, abdication or by death.

He'll probably be president for the Semiquincentennial, even if he has to push the old man down the stairs himself.
More accurately you made simple insinuations. And that is your rhetorical style generally speaking. It is wasted ink.

And the rest of your post is more of the same. It contributes nothing to understanding of the events and issues at hand.

In regard to Vance: your opinion of him doesn’t matter much. Those like you solely involved in reaction and exaggerated rhetoric certainly hate him and will continue to hate him. It is a further manifestation of TDS but reapplied, no?

What does matter are those who “relate” to him, as one from their side of the street as it were, who made his way into the governing structure. His background is fascinating from any perspective (obviously with exception to you-plural).

It very much remains to be seen how the ideas that Vance and others are working with play out in American (and European) politics.
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phyllo wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 5:57 pm Consolidation of power into the hands of one person has happened before, many times.

One has to be vigilant so that it doesn't happen again.

Study history and learn.
Better to try to understand the causal chain that produced the circumstances that “brought forth” the phenomenon of Trump and the phenomena of similarly powered political movements in our present, in America, in Europe.

And also to understand the nature of a dramatic political battle both visible and tras bambalinas. The immense power-struggles are perhaps the most relevant while the superficially visible war is chaotic, confusing, hard to sort out and figure out.

Consolidation of power into one hand could theoretically result positively. For example in Abe Lincoln’s semi-dictatorship. How one assesses that concentration of power depends on what side one supports, no? You would perhaps support a strongman if that man were enacting policy you believed was right and necessary.

Many believe, rightly or wrongly, that America requires “saving” and that bold, authoritative action is needed. That is not my opinion it is what they think.

You really should show more circumspection. It would improve your discourse and definitely the quality of the conversations (“”) that occur on the forum generally.

At least take a devilish, underhanded swipe at Flash. For God’s sake man! Can you at least do that?! 🤩
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 6:17 pm More accurately you made simple insinuations. And that is your rhetorical style generally speaking.
Did you get even a mild tingle of self-awareness when you wrote that?
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The tingle I get, to repeat your phrase, is realizing the degree to which I exhibit what must be described as an Olympian superiority when the quality of my discourse is compared to yours. I don’t mean this in a haughty or arrogant manner.

In other news: I have captured and trained 2 enormous cockroaches🪳 and dressed them in gladiator’s garb. They are spectacular! One I named EffDeePee and the other Age. I will videograph their battles in the coming weeks and post them here! (No charge).
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 5:21 pm
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 4:28 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 1:29 pm A vacuum was created. It has been filled by a bunch of tech-bros who don't care about tantrums because they throw them too. They have an ideology and some half-smart people to help them write it down. You'll be running some sort of special about Deneen, Yarvin and Girard one day.

This isn't really anything new, there's always a set of well-heeled blue sky thinker types to attempt a takeover whenever the drift of popular sentiment supports the possibility of radical change.
More accurately it really is “something new”. An important player — a vice-president and a man likely to become a presidential candidate — who is becoming familiar with anti-liberal or counter-liberal political theory. It is rather momentous really.
I gave an example of why it wasn't new, so that's a fail right away.

Vance is one of the least charismatic Veeps ever, an ungainly couch molester whose own base doesn't trust him becasue he laughs at his own jokes when telepromted to. He would get massacred in an election by anybody who can just look more human than he can. His only two shots at becoming president are if Trump has been removed from office by use of the 25th, abdication or by death.

He'll probably be president for the Semiquincentennial, even if he has to push the old man down the stairs himself.
Why would politicians need to have 'charisma'? Is Hitler 'charismatic' enough for you? What do you think 'charisma' adds to the job description?
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 6:57 pm The tingle I get, to repeat your phrase, is realizing the degree to which I exhibit what must be described as an Olympian superiority when the quality of my discourse is compared to yours. I don’t mean this in a haughty or arrogant manner.
Wow, look at you. When you got out of bed this morning you were only racially superior, but now you are positivley blooming with superiorities.
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accelafine wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:02 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 5:21 pm
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 4:28 pm
More accurately it really is “something new”. An important player — a vice-president and a man likely to become a presidential candidate — who is becoming familiar with anti-liberal or counter-liberal political theory. It is rather momentous really.
I gave an example of why it wasn't new, so that's a fail right away.

Vance is one of the least charismatic Veeps ever, an ungainly couch molester whose own base doesn't trust him becasue he laughs at his own jokes when telepromted to. He would get massacred in an election by anybody who can just look more human than he can. His only two shots at becoming president are if Trump has been removed from office by use of the 25th, abdication or by death.

He'll probably be president for the Semiquincentennial, even if he has to push the old man down the stairs himself.
Why would politicians need to have 'charisma'? Is Hitler 'charismatic' enough for you? What do you think 'charisma' adds to the job description?
The ability to present a message and win votes. Stuff like that, commonly known as politics.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:06 pm
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 6:57 pm The tingle I get, to repeat your phrase, is realizing the degree to which I exhibit what must be described as an Olympian superiority when the quality of my discourse is compared to yours. I don’t mean this in a haughty or arrogant manner.
Wow, look at you. When you got out of bed this morning you were only racially superior, but now you are positivley blooming with superiorities.
Single greatest philosopher of all time: Hedgehog, VA, Advocate, Age, Phil8659, royd.. reyd.. can't remember his name or anything else about him. (Did I leave out someone?)

We only need 2 more! Then we can finally host the 8 person single elimination tournament between them. I've been dreaming of that day for so long.

So the big question is, could AJ evolve into the single greatest philosopher? The way his psychosis seems to be progressing, maybe he could do it. Then we'd only need to find one more.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:06 pm Wow, look at you. When you got out of bed this morning you were only racially superior, but now you are positivley blooming with superiorities.
I hadn’t gotten out of bed yet. But now is the time! Up an’ at ‘em! Carpe dium. That sort of thing.
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Atla wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:41 pm So the big question is, could AJ evolve into the single greatest philosopher?
If you understood grandiosity you’d have understood that I’d have to devolve to fulfill the role of the single greatest philosopher. Think about it …
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Atla wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:41 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:06 pm
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 6:57 pm The tingle I get, to repeat your phrase, is realizing the degree to which I exhibit what must be described as an Olympian superiority when the quality of my discourse is compared to yours. I don’t mean this in a haughty or arrogant manner.
Wow, look at you. When you got out of bed this morning you were only racially superior, but now you are positivley blooming with superiorities.
Single greatest philosopher of all time: Hedgehog, VA, Advocate, Age, Phil8659, royd.. reyd.. can't remember his name or anything else about him. (Did I leave out someone?)

We only need 2 more! Then we can finally host the 8 person single elimination tournament between them. I've been dreaming of that day for so long.

So the big question is, could AJ evolve into the single greatest philosopher? The way his psychosis seems to be progressing, maybe he could do it. Then we'd only need to find one more.
If we're including those whose superiority transcends mere philosophy, then you get Skepdick, who visits merely as a formality to set the terms under which philosophy must surrender to him.
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