how woke works

[Flannel Jesus]

Anyway, back to the topic of the post: I think it's interesting that conservatives in America have managed to convince themselves they're the party of freedom and the other side is the party of censorship. I think both sides have some unhealthy tendencies lately towards domineering control of language, and controlling what beliefs people are allowed to express. It seems to me to be a myth that American conservatives are genuinely much more freedom oriented than American liberals. I'm not certain exactly which side is worse on the freedom scale, but Trump hasn't been helping the conservative side of that tug-of-war

[Maia]

Anyway, back to the topic of the post: I think it's interesting that conservatives in America have managed to convince themselves they're the party of freedom and the other side is the party of censorship. I think both sides have some unhealthy tendencies lately towards domineering control of language, and controlling what beliefs people are allowed to express. It seems to me to be a myth that American conservatives are genuinely much more freedom oriented than American liberals. I'm not certain exactly which side is worse on the freedom scale, but Trump hasn't been helping the conservative side of that tug-of-war

That may be so, if he's really banned those words. Still, some of them, such as "chestfeeding" are abominations, and highly offensive.

Are people losing their jobs and livelihoods for using any of those words? If so, then yes, both sides are equally bad.

[Flannel Jesus]

Are people losing their jobs and livelihoods for using any of those words? If so, then yes, both sides are equally bad.

Not yet. No, people lost their jobs in the big doge purge a few weeks ago.

[Maia]

Are people losing their jobs and livelihoods for using any of those words? If so, then yes, both sides are equally bad.

Not yet. No, people lost their jobs in the big doge purge a few weeks ago.

I think a lot of those weren't actually doing anything, or very little. Still, I don't want to make light of the issue. We're always being threatened with council cut backs where I work, and it's not much fun.

[Alexiev]

I read that the military banned the word "gay", so all mention of the Enola Gay (the B52 that dropped the first atomic bomb) was expunged from military history sites.

[mickthinks]

… people lost their jobs in the big doge purge a few weeks ago.

I think a lot of those weren't actually doing anything, …

Interesting! Can you say why you think that, Maia?

[Maia]

… people lost their jobs in the big doge purge a few weeks ago.

I think a lot of those weren't actually doing anything, …

Interesting! Can you say why you think that, Maia?

As I understand it, those were the ones they sacked, by and large. It's just what I've heard on the news, though.

[mickthinks]

I think a lot of those weren't actually doing anything, …

Interesting! Can you say why you think that, Maia?

As I understand it, those were the ones they sacked, by and large. It's just what I've heard on the news, though.

I take that to mean you have assumed that DOGE has taken great care to assess the productivity of every federal employee it has sacked. Taking that as a premise, it would follow readily that being fired is firm evidence of an employee’s idleness.

But why do you assume that DOGE is taking great care to assess the productivity of all these federal employees? I‘ve seen and heard nothing that supports such an assumption.

[Maia]

Interesting! Can you say why you think that, Maia?

As I understand it, those were the ones they sacked, by and large. It's just what I've heard on the news, though.

I take that to mean you have assumed that DOGE has taken great care to assess the productivity of every federal employee it has sacked. Taking that as a premise, it would follow readily that being fired is firm evidence of an employee’s idleness.

But why do you assume that DOGE is taking great care to assess the productivity of all these federal employees? I‘ve seen and heard nothing that supports such an assumption.

I don't know, to be honest, and perhaps I'm not quite as familiar with American domestic politics as I should be. Elon Musk is has undoubtedly helped human progress, but I suppose it's hardly rocket science.

[FlashDangerpants]

We're always being threatened with council cut backs where I work, and it's not much fun.

Are you a DEI hire?

[Maia]

We're always being threatened with council cut backs where I work, and it's not much fun.

Are you a DEI hire?

I don't believe so, and when I've asked about things like that in the past, they've always denied it. I very much like to think that I was able to get the job on my own merits.

[commonsense]

Why didn’t flight deck make the list?

[commonsense]

I don't like "wokism" at all. It leads to people being afraid to say things, for fear of causing offence. Often, therefore, they just play it safe and say nothing at all.

Agreed. One has to be sharp when choosing one’s words.. Dullards beware.

[commonsense]

I don't like "wokism" at all. It leads to people being afraid to say things, for fear of causing offence. Often, therefore, they just play it safe and say nothing at all.

Oh, you poor thing. Don't tell me you had to listen to the computer read that entire list!

Sadly, yes, but I have it on 4x.

I tried to put my dog on 4x but he peed everywhere.

[commonsense]

I read that the military banned the word "gay", so all mention of the Enola Gay (the B52 that dropped the first atomic bomb) was expunged from military history sites.

Do you know what the bomber is called now? Enola LBTQ+?