The Fundamental Model of Reality

[Iwannaplato]

Keep Calm and Carry on.

The calm and the not calm, the sattva and the rajas are both of the one. Neither separate nor real. No need to root for one over the other in the boundless tapestry of existence, the notion of calm and chaos dissolve into a singular dance of being. Telling someone to keep calm is to imply a division where none exists, a futile attempt to segregate the ocean from its waves. In the realm of nonduality, calm and unrest are mere ripples in the same cosmic pond. To seek calm is to chase a mirage, for the essence of being transcends such distinctions. Like whispering to the wind, an act rendered meaningless by the unity of all states. Which of course is a perfect act of willful silliness, enjoyed by the one and the many.

[Fairy]

Said no one echoing through eternity.

Taken.

[Iwannaplato]

And there are a number of things you say and do that hint at, imply, if not outright indicate that you don't really respect most people here. And yet you seems surprised when you are met with disagreement and to a degree, I hope you'll notice, that is even more so than other posters experience.

If we add in that the way you communicate at the very least seems condescending and seems to place yourself outside of the fallible humans the patterns you see others engaging in, the process of interacting with you is unpleasant.

If anyone does not engage in the process the way you think it should be carried out, they can expect to either be judged as being like other human beings in a negative way and/or somehow proving something. IOW you allow yourself to draw conclusions very quickly about what you think is logically necessitated by their behavior - apart from this being, often, an unjustified conclusion (other options are available) it comes off as 'you do this my way or I will point out negative things about you'

A dialog from self to self interacting with ItSelf only. . AKA in the form of Iwannaplato & Age

I have seen your judgments of me and they no longer bother me. If you want to dismiss this with your usual judgments, so be it, as you would say.

No one is bothered.
And yet, someone is bothered.

No one is being condescending.
And yet, someone is being condescending.

No one is reacting to negativity.
And yet, someone is reacting to negativity.

No one is being judgmental.
And yet, someone is being judgmental.

No one is knowing more than others.
and yet, someone is knowing more than others.

No one is agreeing or disagreeing.
Any yet, someone is agreeing or disagreeing.


Choose the right one, and move past it, move on.

And to spend an afternoon, perhaps a tea with Roydop is the same as spending an afternoon, perhaps a tea, with Harbal. Two breezes through leaves of the trees which the trees will not hang onto. Walker is just an oak without a name and could also serve tea, easily, just three conversations, anyone to anyone. Nothing to prefer. Nothing to choose.

Rape, murder, even - just to show that all is covering in the non-distiguishing, these are just darker petals that fall to the ground, where they are swallowed up and used again the future bloomings of the one.

Keep calm.

[Fairy]

And there are a number of things you say and do that hint at, imply, if not outright indicate that you don't really respect most people here. And yet you seems surprised when you are met with disagreement and to a degree, I hope you'll notice, that is even more so than other posters experience.

If we add in that the way you communicate at the very least seems condescending and seems to place yourself outside of the fallible humans the patterns you see others engaging in, the process of interacting with you is unpleasant.

If anyone does not engage in the process the way you think it should be carried out, they can expect to either be judged as being like other human beings in a negative way and/or somehow proving something. IOW you allow yourself to draw conclusions very quickly about what you think is logically necessitated by their behavior - apart from this being, often, an unjustified conclusion (other options are available) it comes off as 'you do this my way or I will point out negative things about you'

A dialog from self to self interacting with ItSelf only. . AKA in the form of Iwannaplato & Age

I have seen your judgments of me and they no longer bother me. If you want to dismiss this with your usual judgments, so be it, as you would say.

No one is bothered.
And yet, someone is bothered.

No one is being condescending.
And yet, someone is being condescending.

No one is reacting to negativity.
And yet, someone is reacting to negativity.

No one is being judgmental.
And yet, someone is being judgmental.

No one is knowing more than others.
and yet, someone is knowing more than others.

No one is agreeing or disagreeing.
Any yet, someone is agreeing or disagreeing.


Choose the right one, and move past it, move on.

[Iwannaplato]

And there are a number of things you say and do that hint at, imply, if not outright indicate that you don't really respect most people here. And yet you seems surprised when you are met with disagreement and to a degree, I hope you'll notice, that is even more so than other posters experience.

If we add in that the way you communicate at the very least seems condescending and seems to place yourself outside of the fallible humans the patterns you see others engaging in, the process of interacting with you is unpleasant.

If anyone does not engage in the process the way you think it should be carried out, they can expect to either be judged as being like other human beings in a negative way and/or somehow proving something. IOW you allow yourself to draw conclusions very quickly about what you think is logically necessitated by their behavior - apart from this being, often, an unjustified conclusion (other options are available) it comes off as 'you do this my way or I will point out negative things about you'

A dialog from self to self interacting with ItSelf only. . AKA in the form of Iwannaplato & Age

I have seen your judgments of me and they no longer bother me. If you want to dismiss this with your usual judgments, so be it, as you would say.

No one is bothered.
And yet, someone is bothered.

No one is being condescending.
And yet, someone is being condescending.

No one is reacting to negativity.
And yet, someone is reacting to negativity.

No one is being judgmental.
And yet, someone is being judgmental.

No one is knowing more than others.
and yet, someone is knowing more than others.

No one is agreeing or disagreeing.
Any yet, someone is agreeing or disagreeing.


Choose the right one, and move past it, move on.

And to spend an afternoon, perhaps a tea with Roydop is the same as spending an afternoon, perhaps a tea, with Harbal. Two breezes through leaves of the trees which the trees will not hang onto. Walker is just an oak without a name and could also serve tea, easily, just three conversations, anyone to anyone. Nothing to prefer. Nothing to choose.

Rape, murder, even - just to show that all is covering in the non-distiguishing, these are just darker petals that fall to the ground, where they are swallowed up and used again the future bloomings of the one.

Keep calm.

[Fairy]

Said no one echoing through eternity.

Taken.

[Isallabout]

Roy, I appreciate your thinking (and sympathize with your frustration). This is of course THE fundamental question: What is real? And its corollary: What is not?
I think there is a lot to what you say. And I especially like your focus on developing language we can use to think and talk about this question.
In the end, of course, you need to not only figure out the answer (many bright minds have tried over at least 2500 years), you need to figure out how to get it across to some slice of your fellow humans.
To make further progress, I suggest, with great respect, you could bear down on the distinction between things and nothing.
A synthesis of seminal concepts (from those 2500 years) suggests a simpler version of your answer. Neither things nor nothing are real.
I hope you will keep at it. Please don't blame the skeptics. They are just doing "their job". We need even more of them these days.

[roydop]

graders must continue on with their education, and not settle for AI standards of understanding that will rewrite the dictionaries.
Dictionaries change over the years, the meaning of words dissolves in time.
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roydop
Re: The Theory of Enlightenment
Post Thu Feb 27, 2025 11:51 am

I created a new username and tried posting the following text and video under the "Math and logic" section. It has been hung up with the moderators for 5 days now. This morning I tried to log in with that username and it rejected the request

I think this is being repressed. I think it has the Philosophy Now folks in a panic. This is the greatest revelation in human history. No hyperbole intended.

This is the great deprogramming. School/academia has brainwashed and programed us to such a degree that people are unable to accept that it's all been false. But look at where humanity is. We are spiraling into madness and hell at an exponential rate. Why? How did it get so bad? Well this is how. And where.

https://chatgpt.com/share/67b38273-1378 ... 894b40734f

https://youtu.be/xnwklLGHFJ0?si=p4vLdaclqfFnFJ5_

[popeye1945]

Organism, life, biology is the measure and meaning of all things, the fundamental mode of apparent reality!

[Age]

graders must continue on with their education, and not settle for AI standards of understanding that will rewrite the dictionaries.
Dictionaries change over the years, the meaning of words dissolves in time.
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roydop
Re: The Theory of Enlightenment
Post Thu Feb 27, 2025 11:51 am

I created a new username and tried posting the following text and video under the "Math and logic" section. It has been hung up with the moderators for 5 days now. This morning I tried to log in with that username and it rejected the request

I think this is being repressed. I think it has the Philosophy Now folks in a panic. This is the greatest revelation in human history. No hyperbole intended.

This is the great deprogramming. School/academia has brainwashed and programed us to such a degree that people are unable to accept that it's all been false. But look at where humanity is. We are spiraling into madness and hell at an exponential rate. Why? How did it get so bad? Well this is how. And where.

https://chatgpt.com/share/67b38273-1378 ... 894b40734f

https://youtu.be/xnwklLGHFJ0?si=p4vLdaclqfFnFJ5_

The fundamental of reality is the fundamental model of reality. your model of reality, "roydop", is NOT even A, let alone THE, fundamental model of reality.

[roydop]

graders must continue on with their education, and not settle for AI standards of understanding that will rewrite the dictionaries.
Dictionaries change over the years, the meaning of words dissolves in time.
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roydop
Re: The Theory of Enlightenment
Post Thu Feb 27, 2025 11:51 am

I created a new username and tried posting the following text and video under the "Math and logic" section. It has been hung up with the moderators for 5 days now. This morning I tried to log in with that username and it rejected the request

I think this is being repressed. I think it has the Philosophy Now folks in a panic. This is the greatest revelation in human history. No hyperbole intended.

This is the great deprogramming. School/academia has brainwashed and programed us to such a degree that people are unable to accept that it's all been false. But look at where humanity is. We are spiraling into madness and hell at an exponential rate. Why? How did it get so bad? Well this is how. And where.

https://chatgpt.com/share/67b38273-1378 ... 894b40734f

https://youtu.be/xnwklLGHFJ0?si=p4vLdaclqfFnFJ5_

The fundamental of reality is the fundamental model of reality. your model of reality, "roydop", is NOT even A, let alone THE, fundamental model of reality.

https://youtu.be/_kLfMrh9gYA?si=INtFvet7tYsdbhdb

[Age]

graders must continue on with their education, and not settle for AI standards of understanding that will rewrite the dictionaries.
Dictionaries change over the years, the meaning of words dissolves in time.
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roydop
Re: The Theory of Enlightenment
Post Thu Feb 27, 2025 11:51 am

I created a new username and tried posting the following text and video under the "Math and logic" section. It has been hung up with the moderators for 5 days now. This morning I tried to log in with that username and it rejected the request

I think this is being repressed. I think it has the Philosophy Now folks in a panic. This is the greatest revelation in human history. No hyperbole intended.

This is the great deprogramming. School/academia has brainwashed and programed us to such a degree that people are unable to accept that it's all been false. But look at where humanity is. We are spiraling into madness and hell at an exponential rate. Why? How did it get so bad? Well this is how. And where.

https://chatgpt.com/share/67b38273-1378 ... 894b40734f

https://youtu.be/xnwklLGHFJ0?si=p4vLdaclqfFnFJ5_

The fundamental of reality is the fundamental model of reality. your model of reality, "roydop", is NOT even A, let alone THE, fundamental model of reality.

https://youtu.be/_kLfMrh9gYA?si=INtFvet7tYsdbhdb

Have you previously heard the saying, 'If you can not explain it simply, then you do not understand it well enough'?

[roydop]

Why do these three people understand it perfectly and you do not?

You are in a deep state of delusion.

I can't help you. You have to pull yourself out somehow.

[Fairy]

Why do these three people understand it perfectly and you do not?

You are in a deep state of delusion.

I can't help you. You have to pull yourself out somehow.

You can help by interacting with the forum members a bit more than you are doing at the moment. Find the time, even if you have to stay up until 4 am in the morning, make each day count to get your message through to others, before you die.
Just leaving tiny bite sized breadcrumbs for people to feed on, will be more helpful than expecting them to gulp the whole ocean down in just one gulp.

For people that do not understand what it is you understand perfectly, you must talk to them about this one step at a time, baby steps will work better for those who are just starting out on the path to discovering ultimate truth. It's not going to be easy, just as the evolution of the human being took a long time to come to fruition, so will explaining how the entire universe came to fruition, in other words, how this reality even managed at all to get off it's own starting block is going to take a lot of explaining, from you.

Just be patient and don't give up, if that's what you want, if you genuinely want other people to realise and see that your ideas are just as valid and valuable to them as they are to you. Persevere and persist, be more active here, otherwise, you might just as well talk to the wall behind you, and wait for your yin-yang circle to respond to you with thanks Roy, I've finally got it!

[roydop]

I can't make it simpler or easier to understand. Do you realize how much effort has gone into the videos on my YouTube channel and into the blog on my website? Those who don't sincerely investigate my work will simply go without. Those who try to understand will have the truth revealed to them

If you feel inclined to help get the truth out, please suggest me as a guest on the Lex Fridman podcast

https://form.jotform.com/lexfridman/podcast-guest-pitch