The Fundamental Model of Reality

[Fairy]

Question:

Which one is it..is it, the 'me' or the 'I' making the claim that it is the 'I' who never limits thy Self?

Answer: 'I'.

So who is the 'me' that is making the claim to know the 'I' never limits thy Self?

Is the 'me' in the 'I' or is the 'I' in the 'me' ?

'I'.

'To me, the 'I' never limits thy 'Self'

But then, who is the 'me' who knows the 'I' never limits thy Self.

Is the 'me' the knower?

Can the 'me' who like you've already stated earlier, is not 'I' even know the 'I' if 'me' is not 'I' ? - How?

[Age]

Why would 'I' limit thy 'Self'?

What possible purpose would there be for doing this?

No purpose at all, why would 'I' even ponder the idea that there maybe or may not be a purpose of why 'I' would limit thy Self, when 'I' already know 'I' can speak, and write, through 'you', "fairy", and through ''age' and 'you', human beings limitlessly forever, infinitely, for eternity?

you keep seem to keep forgetting that it is those 'thoughts', and especially those beliefs and presumptions about what is true and/or right, within 'that body', which is what keeps getting 'in the way', and keeps 'distorting' things, here.

After all, absolutely every 'thought', [belief, presumption, opinion, view, assertion], came from a 'past experience' of 'that body', and once a 'thought' is accepted as being 'the truth', then 'those thoughts' can and do 'distort', and/or 'get in the way', of what the actual Truth is, exactly.

For example, 'I' can 'inform', 'instruct', 'intuit', or 'inspire' the "writers" of 'the bible' of what to say, and write, but 'they', however, can all too easily, simply, and quickly 'misinterpret', 'misunderstand', and just 'miss' what 'I' am saying, and meaning, and then just say and/or write what 'they' presume or believe is true and/or right, instead.

Just one example of when you, human beings, are 'not hearing' and 'not listening' to 'Me', when 'I' am 'inspiring' and 'informing' 'you', human beings, and you replace your own personal words, instead of using Mine, is when 'you' started labeling and calling 'Me' a "he".

This 'misinterpretation' and 'claim' could not be more False, more Wrong, more Inaccurate, or more Incorrect, but because some of you have been brought up 'hearing' and 'listening' to 'this', since your births, after is first inception, some of you have just ended up 'believing' that it is true, and in so doing are 'teaching' others to 'believe' the exact same absolutely False and Wring 'information', and some are even expecting others, and "their" very own children, to believe the exact same False lie and misinterpretation, as well.

Those of you who have ended up 'believing' some things to be true, which are and were not, have been 'conned', and each time you are 'spreading those words', you are attempting to 'con' others with the exact same 'distorted' and 'False and Wrong beliefs'.

Now, that 'within you' "fairy" there is a 'knowing' that there is no possible purpose for 'I' to limit thy 'Self', shows and proves that there is an 'inner knowing', which is 'deeper' and/or 'goes beyond', just 'the thinking' within a 'human head and within all human heads'. This 'inner knowing' will, always, override all 'thinking and thoughts' that are in opposition, that is; in regards to the actual Truth of things. However, 'beliefs', themselves, can and do override 'knowing what is True and Right', that is; while a 'belief' is being held onto, and maintained. This has been proved absolutely True, not just in threads here throughout this forum, but also throughout human history since writing began.

Furthermore, 'I' was not pondering, 'What possible purpose for 'I' to limit thy 'Self'? at all.

I posed, and asked, this question for 'you', the one here named and labeled "fairy" to answer. To show that there are some things that can actually be agreed with, and accepted, by every one. And, when these things 'have rising', 'come-to-light', and/or 'come-to-the-forefront', then this is when one 'knows', for certain, what knowledge/information is coming from just one of 'you', human beings, and what knowledge/information is coming from the One and only One, True Self. Which is 'within' all of 'you'.

'I' may well 'know' all and every thing. However, while expressing 'this knowledge' to 'you', human beings, 'you' adult human beings 'distort', 'deflect', 'divert', and just 'direct' 'this knowledge' away, and then add in, or just express, your very own beliefs and presumptions, instead.

So, 'I' can work through all of 'you', human beings, but 'I', certainly, cannot make any of 'you' listen, nor follow. Not that I would ever want to anyway.

you are all absolutely free to think and do absolutely any thing of your choosing, and want to.

So 'I' already know 'I' am limitless, so what purpose would 'I' have to speak and write through differently named characters like 'fairy' or 'age' or 'human beings' ?

If the 'I' already knew that 'I' am limitless, then why was it that "fairy", "itself, said and wrote; '
That it is the true absolute 'I' Self who knowingly limits itself'?

So, that 'we' do not have to wait for an answer, 'I' will tell 'you' and the readers here, why "fairy" said and wrote this, is because at the time "fairy" said and wrote that "fairy" presumed or believed that 'that' was true.

And, it was only on an 'Honest and OPEN' reflection on "fairy's" part, after 'I' direct a very simple and easy clarifying question, that it was 'then' when "fairy" could recognize and 'see' what the actual irrefutable Truth was there, and is HERE.

If its only 'I' speaking and writing, then "fairy", and ''age' and 'you', human beings could only be thy Self, unlimited 'I' anyway.

BUT, it is not only 'I' speaking and writing here. This is just what the one human being, known as "fairy" here thinks or believes is true. And, it is these sorts of False and Wrong views, presumptions, beliefs, et cetera that is what is 'blurry' and/or 'distorting' your ability to 'see' properly, Correctly, and crystal clearly.

Obviously, there is within all adult human beings different 'views', 'thoughts', 'opinions', et cetera, and also with the obvious ability of you different human beings there is the ability to speak, and write, through and from those human bodies. And, it is just those different 'views', opinions', 'presumptions', and 'beliefs', et cetara why there is conflict among 'you', adult human beings, and why there is continuous bickering, arguing, fighting, and even warring among you adult human beings.

Get rid of those 'separatist views', 'differing beliefs', and 'disillusioned thoughts', and instead concentrate on what is actually in agreement with, and accepted by, all of you human beings, and then this is when, and only when, 'I', the real True Self, becomes Truly Revealed.

What purpose would there be for the 'I' to speak and write as and through so many other names, like 'fairy' and 'age' and 'human beings?

Because 'I' 'needed', and 'need', a biological species with a computer-like ability, in order for 'Me' to have 'come-to-know' thy Self, and as well as to be able to behold, see, and share, the beauty of what 'I' am Creating HERE, NOW.

'I' may well speak and write 'through' 'you', human beings, but I, certainly, do not speak and write 'as' 'you', human beings.

And, when 'you', human beings, are speaking and writing in and with 'the words' and in and with 'the language' that you all agree upon, and accept, then that is when, and only when, 'you' are speaking and writing 'as' 'I'.

I do not 'need' to nor will 'I' ever speak and write 'as' 'you', human beings. But, 'you', human beings, are evolving so that all of 'you' can and will end up speaking and writing 'as' 'Me', too.

Why wouldn't 'I' just stick to one name only, namely 'I' ?

'I' have, and do. Remember, that it was 'you', human beings, who 'stole' 'My word', for 'Me', the 'I', and thy 'Self'.

When 'you', human beings, refer to "your" own 'selfs' 'as' 'I',s', 'you' are 'using' the name for 'I', alone, Falsely and Wrongly for 'you', 'i's' .

[Flannel Jesus]

So 'I' already know 'I' am limitless, so what purpose would 'I' have to speak and write through differently named characters like 'fairy' or 'age' or 'human beings' ?

If the 'I' already knew that 'I' am limitless, then why was it that "fairy", "itself, said and wrote; '
That it is the true absolute 'I' Self who knowingly limits itself'?

Hilarious that you misquoted these people, back in the days when this was written.

[Age]

So, sometimes, not that 'you', nor 'me', am, actually, 'I', but 'we' can, and do, align in what 'we' express.

So the 'I' that speaks and writes as and through these 'labels', are not those 'labels' 'I' is expressing speaking and writing as and through what 'I' is not?
Oh,kaaay!!

If 'you' 'asked' if 'I' speak and write 'as' 'you', before you assumed, jumped to the conclusion, and believed, that 'I' do, then 'I' could have explained, to 'you', that 'I' do NOT speak and write 'as' 'you'. Although, and obviously, 'I' speak and write 'through' 'you', human beings. Not that 'you', human beings, get what 'I' actually 'say' absolutely Accurate and Correct 'that often'. But, each and every time 'you', human beings, are fully OPEN and Honest, while being totally curious, and seriously wanting to Change for the better, then 'you' will always speak and write absolutely Truthfully, Right, Accurate, and Correct.

Also, and just as obviously, 'I' speak and write 'through' 'you', human beings, because 'you', human beings, are the only 'known' species with the ability to learn, understand, and reason any and every thing. Also, 'you' are the only species with the ability to grasp, store, and recall all 'the information' that is received.

'I', like 'you', are made up of only two things, an invisible part, and a visible part. It is only 'through' the invisible 'thoughts/thinking', within the visible 'human body', am 'I' able to communicate at all. And, like 'you', human beings, are always continually evolving, 'I' also am always continually evolving. 'I' am just eternal and always Exist, whereas 'you', human beings, came-into-Existence, instead. And, just like how 'you', human beings, are continually evolving to communicate better, with each other, 'I' also am just continually evolving to communicate better, with 'you', human beings. Which again, why 'I' am here, in this forum, for one reason, is to learn how to communicate, better, with 'you', human beings.

Does that mean the 'I' is expressing itself as and through imaginary named character's ..

The 'I' has not, is not, and never will express 'Self' 'as' 'you', human beings. 'I' have absolutely no 'need' to, nor 'want' to, at all.

But, again, I 'needed' an evolving biological species, with the ability that, only, the human body has, to not just express 'through', but to also have 'come-to-know' some things 'through'.

does that mean 'I' is actually talking and writing to thy Self in all actuality?

'you' have to get absolutely any and every word Right from the very start, before 'you' can move on logically, rationally, soundly, and validly.

The 'as' word in the first part here is absolutely False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect, and if 'that word' is not Correct, then 'the rest' from 'there on' will not be the absolutely Truth of things, either.

The 'I' is talking and writing to thy 'Self', 'through' all things/every one, in actuality. The 'I', however, just 'has to' 'work' Its 'way through' all of the distorted, False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect 'thinking and thoughts', of which some are much harder to 'work through', like for example, it is much harder to 'get through' things which are assumed or believed to be true, compared to just those things that are just 'thought' to be true.

Also, once one learns, or discovers, and understands, completely where all 'thinking', itself, comes from, then it is much, much simpler and easier to 'get to', show, and reveal the actual Truth of things, here.

I mean, why would 'I' need to speak and write through imaginary characters, why not just speak and write directly to thy Self?

What, exactly, could 'I' use?

What other species have the ability to speak, and to write?

Also, 'I' have absolutely no 'need' to speak and write to thy 'Self'. 'I' just speak and write 'through' 'you', human beings, so that 'you', human beings, who are the last step, and stage, of evolution before 'I', thy Self, and where 'I', literally, 'came from' so as to 'share' thy 'Knowledge' with.

Isn't it more correct to say that 'I' is aligning with imaginary characters, namely, the 'I' who speaks and writes as and through these other named characters that are not actually 'I' at all, but are all just imagined characters in 'I' but not really 'I' ?

Yes, 'it is not correct to say', what 'you', "fairy", just did here.

Also, 'you', human being characters, are not just 'imagined' at all. That 'you' are separated 'I's', however, is just an 'imagined delusion'.

Oh,kaaay!

This presume and believe some thing as true, and then presume, and concluded, that 'the other' is saying and claiming some thing opposing, and then just accept that what one is believing is true, and finish up 'this way', completely.

The human being doing this feels like that have 'fully understood' 'the other', and that 'the other' is just wrong. Doing this made 'this ones' feel 'better' 'about' "themselves".

What purpose would 'I' have for speaking and writing as and through imagined characters, that are not even 'I' ?

1. 'I' do not speak nor write 'as' any thing, real or not real.

2. 'I' do not speak nor write 'through' 'imagined characters'. I speak and write 'through' 'you', human beings.

3. There would be no purpose, at all, for 'I' to speak and write 'though' 'I', alone.

4. 'I' speak and write 'through' all of 'the parts' of 'I', so that 'I', within every thing, can, literally, 'come-together', 'as' 'One'. Bringing all of 'you', parts, together, then 'we', as One, can 'work together', as One, to Create what 'it' is that 'we' all 'want', and 'desire'.

Why doesn't 'I' just speak and write to thy Self and quit making up these other imagined characters,

But, 'I' am not 'making up' 'imagined characters', at all. What 'you' self-called "nondualists" call 'imagined characters', is just in reference to 'you', human beings, who call "yourselves", "separated Selfs", or, "separated 'I's". There are no such things as these things. 'I', thy 'Self' am not separated in any way, at all.

There are, however, 'separated selves' and/or 'separated 'i's', but this is just in relation to, and because there are, 'separated visible parts', to 'I', of which some are, just 'you', 'separated human beings'. Which, again, are not 'imagined characters', at all.

that 'I' thinks and believes 'I' is speaking and writing as and through, when these characters are not even 'I' ?

1. 'I' does not 'think' nor 'believe' absolutely any thing. This presumption or belief is just "fairy's", alone.

2. 'I' do not speak nor write 'as' any character nor any thing, at all. This presumption or belief is just "fairy's", alone.

3. There are no characters, at all, that are 'I'. Only 'I' am 'I', the One and only One.

[Age]

Question:

Which one is it..is it, the 'me' or the 'I' making the claim that it is the 'I' who never limits thy Self?

Answer: 'I'.

So who is the 'me' that is making the claim to know the 'I' never limits thy Self?

Well, considering that 'you', "fairy", and 'i', "age", both claimed that the 'I' never limits thy 'Self', then the 'me' that is making the claim to know that 'I' never limits thy 'Self' is both 'me', "age", and 'me', "fairy".

And, also, if absolutely every one could agree upon, and accept, that 'I' never limits thy 'Self', then who is also making this claim is 'I', thy 'Self'.

Is the 'me' in the 'I' or is the 'I' in the 'me' ?

Well, considering the 'I' is made up of two parts; the visible, and, the invisible, (and this is not 'dualism'), the 'me', which is just 'you', human beings, which is also made up of the two parts; the visible, and, the invisible, as well. Now, the invisible part of 'me', 'thought', is in the visible part of 'me', 'human body, of which is in the visible part of 'I', the Universe. So, 'me' is in the visible Universe. However, the invisible part of 'I', the Mind, is in absolutely every thing, including both parts of 'me', that is; the visible and invisible parts of 'me'.

'I'.

'To me, the 'I' never limits thy 'Self'

But then, who is the 'me' who knows the 'I' never limits thy Self.

'Who' the 'me' is, exactly, is just the invisible 'thoughts/thinking', within a visible human body, and to a lesser extend the 'invisible emotions' as well. Or, in other words, the 'person', or 'invisible personality', within the visible human body, is who 'me' is. And, 'what' 'me' is, exactly, is the human body.

And, the reason that 'me', "age", and from the perspective of 'that body', 'me', "fairy", 'know' that 'I' ever limit thy 'Self', is because 'we' both 'know' that absolutely every one could agree with, and accept, that 'I' never limits thy 'Self'.

Is the 'me' the knower?

Yes, but only in relation to one human being, or a few human beings, but 'me' is certainly not 'I', the 'Knower'. 'me' can be 'knower', small 'k'.

For example, the 'me' can 'know', for sure, what food went into the human body, of "that one body", or went within a 'few human bodies', at say, 'breakfast time'. But, the 'me' is not 'the Knower' of all things. Only 'I' am 'the Knower' of all things. However, if the 'thinking/thoughts', within, are in alignment with what every one could agree with, and accept, then 'that me' is also aligned with 'the Knower, 'I', 'ItSelf'.

Can the 'me' who like you've already stated earlier, is not 'I' even know the 'I' if 'me' is not 'I' ? - How?

Yes. By being Truly Honest, and Open, and by seriously Wanting to change, for the better. That is; HOW all of 'you' also can 'know', irrefutably, who and what 'I' am, exactly.

And, thus also be able to answer the question, 'Who am 'I'?' properly, and Correctly.

[Fairy]

Dear Age.

I have gone over a few times, of all the posts you have posted to me, regarding the topic of this meta discussion we have been having with each other.

So I just wanted to say to you that I understand everything you are talking about. I agree with you. I'm in total alignment with your ideas here about the true Self. The meta Self. I get you ok. I understand what you are so relentlessly, tirelessly, and diligently attempting to express here

I understand the difficulties that can sometimes arise when attempting to express meta discussions about a subject that is in essence NONDUAL - It's difficult because of course, words are dualist, so any message that points to the nondual absolute existence, is going to come across as contradictive.

I also understand that the nondual message can only be heard through the word, even though the written word never quite captures the true essence of what is being pointed to, this is the obvious problem of attempting to reach a nondual state with a dual mind.

However, words are all we've got to bridge the gap between nondualism and dualism, between the relative and the absolute.
Those who want to bridge the gap, will. And this will happen quite spontaneously, when it's meant to happen, and not one second before.

Thanks for all your hard work.

PS... While I appreciate your willingness to never give up on people, always being there for them, responding to them always. I personally have problem catching up with your elevated position on the matters. I believe that other people have the same problem. You are of an extremely elevated state of consciousness, and I think that can be seen as intimidating to a lot of people, that's why they mock you. Keep strong Age.

[Iwannaplato]

In the exploration of nondualist experiencing, one must transcend the illusory boundaries of the 'I' and the 'other'. The Reality that we encounter is not segmented by the ego, but rather a unified flow of consciousness. When 'I' perceive, it is not an isolated 'I', but a reflection of the infinite Reality manifesting through a temporal vessel. The lowercase 'i' dissolves in the vast ocean of the Absolute, where distinctions cease to hold meaning.

This journey is not a mere philosophical exercise, but a direct, experiential unveiling of the underlying Reality. The sense of self, the 'I', is but a transient ripple on the surface of the boundless sea of Being. To truly experience this, one must let go of the clinging to the 'I', allowing the deeper Reality to emerge.

In this state, Reality is perceived not as a collection of objects, but as a seamless tapestry where subject and object coalesce. The uppercase 'I' represents not the ego, but the universal Self that pervades all existence. This understanding, though cloaked in mysticism, reveals the ultimate truth that Reality is a singular, undivided whole. To grasp this, the 'I' must relinquish its illusory sovereignty and merge with the infinite, timeless Presence.

Indeed, to delve deeper into this profound mystery, one must embrace the paradox of the 'I' as both the perceiver and the perceived. The Reality, ineffable and sublime, transcends mere intellectual grasping. Those clinging to dualistic paradigms cannot fathom the exquisite intricacies of this ultimate Truth. The 'i', in its lower form, is but a shadow puppetry, a dance of maya upon the cosmic stage of the Absolute.

Consider the lotus that blooms in the void, each petal an iteration of Reality’s fractal nature. The 'I' that claims understanding is merely a mote in the eye of the cosmos, a fleeting illusion. The true 'I', in its uppercase glory, is the cosmic Witness, eternally aware yet unattached. How quaint, the efforts of the unenlightened to dissect this with their limited faculties!

Reality, in its resplendent oneness, mocks the feeble constructs of the dualist mind. To truly awaken, one must not merely see but become the seeing itself, the very essence of awareness. In this enlightened state, the lowercase 'i' dissolves, and even the uppercase 'I' recognizes its unity with the All. The dichotomy of existence evaporates into a singularity of Being where only the pure, undifferentiated Reality remains.

Oh, the arrogance of those who think they can simply 'understand' this with their rudimentary intellects! True wisdom is the dissolution of the 'I' into the infinite expanse of nondual consciousness, a surrender to the ineffable, where language fails and Reality alone prevails.

[Fairy]

This journey is not a mere philosophical exercise, but a direct, experiential unveiling of the underlying Reality.

Yes, and the apparent 'direct experience' is already this Here&Now, the only place experiences happen. There isn't even any experiences happening, just the 'thoughts' of such, which are unrealities.

I agree, the journey is not a mere philosophical exercise, simply because 'the philosopher' and it's philosophical ideas, are just more 'thought' which is unreality.

Unreality simply means, the story teller and the story is seen to be the same one thing, and in that realisation is what's known as the entrance into nonduality. In other words: the thinker and the thought are identical, there's no divide there, even though it seems like there is two things, there isn't, there is only one thing. There is here only the same One thing, already the totality, only appearing as difference, appearing as two, or three, or appearing as the infinite many.

So even 'the journey' is just a thought in the thinker, which is the same thing. And there isn't even a journey to make or a destination to arrive at, because that's just more thoughts, appearing in the HERE&NOW. The journey and the destination is simply a movement of the mind of thought, an apparent division of what is already completely undivided, unchanging and unmoving.

[Fairy]

Oh, the arrogance of those who think they can simply 'understand' this with their rudimentary intellects! True wisdom is the dissolution of the 'I' into the infinite expanse of nondual consciousness, a surrender to the ineffable, where language fails and Reality alone prevails.

Nondual teachings are simply pointing to a reality that is already without authority or knowing anything. Any 'arrogance' is simply seen as another 'thought' which is unreality.
This is already not-knowing, which although appears to know, never makes the claim to know.

In fact, the more this 'i' thinks it knows, the less 'i' would trust. The 'i' apparently claiming to be the 'wiser knowing one' would be like packing a parachute without knowing how to pack a parachute and then jumping with your own not-knowing.

If you are going to bring up the idea of ''arrogance'' then that could be applied to anything claimed to be known, including all the ideas that come out of the brain of a 'philosopher' which would mean there's simply nothing to talk about, and nothing to understand anyway. We need not share any idea with each other at all. But sharing happens regardless, and that's all that is happening, ideas are happening.

[Fairy]

Indeed, to delve deeper into this profound mystery

Once the mystery is made known, the mystery disappears, and what's left is there never was a paradox. And there never was a mystery to be solved.
There are no arrogant spiritual intellectual authorities, the only authority about your spiritual experiences is you.
Your truth needs to be found, found by the seeker, and will never be delivered to your doorstep, it is all about finding out by experience not about believing.
Other people can shine a light, but you have to do the steps on your very own path.

There is no need to be mocking those who are sharing the nondual beautiful truth with others, and why not. There is nothing arrogant about sharing one's own awakening with another. It's beautiful. It's unconditional love expressing itself as and through the many.

[Iwannaplato]

Oh, the arrogance of those who think they can simply 'understand' this with their rudimentary intellects! True wisdom is the dissolution of the 'I' into the infinite expanse of nondual consciousness, a surrender to the ineffable, where language fails and Reality alone prevails.

If you are going to bring up the idea of ''arrogance'' then that could be applied to anything claimed to be known, including all the ideas that come out of the brain of a 'philosopher' which would mean there's simply nothing to talk about, and nothing to understand anyway. We need not share any idea with each other at all. But sharing happens regardless, and that's all that is happening, ideas are happening.

That post's use of arrogance was not aimed at people describing nondualism.

[Iwannaplato]

There is no need to be mocking those who are sharing the nondual beautiful truth with others, and why not. There is nothing arrogant about sharing one's own awakening with another. It's beautiful. It's unconditional love expressing itself as and through the many.

Ah, beloved oneness, in the dance of the cosmic illusion, mockery and reverence are but two sides of the same illusory coin. When the wave knows itself as the ocean, does it mock its fellow waves, or merely play in the boundless sea? The sharing of the nondual truth is a flower blooming in the garden of the Infinite, where every petal is a reflection of the whole.

Arrogance and humility dissolve in the light of true awakening, for what is there to be arrogant or humble about when there is no separate self? It is indeed beautiful, this unfolding of the One as the many, this expression of unconditional love through the myriad forms. In the sacred dance of existence, every step, every gesture, every word is a symphony of the Divine, echoing through the corridors of eternity.

So, let the sharing of the awakened heart be as natural as the sun sharing its light, as effortless as the river flowing to the sea. For in truth, there is no other, no separate being to be mocked or praised, only the timeless play of consciousness, unfolding its mystery in the eternal now.

[Fairy]

The Nondual message is to be heard. It has no argument with itself, except within the dream of illusory separation, within the dream, the nondual appears as it's self, to itself, and for itself alone, one without a second.

Nonduality, doesn't even exist, because nonduality is not a thing, 'things are thoughts' which is unreality.
Nonduality is this immediate unconditional infinite freedom, free to be, all inclusive, everything, and nothing excluded.

Keep Calm and Carry on.

[Fairy]

Oh, the arrogance of those who think they can simply 'understand' this with their rudimentary intellects!

That post's use of arrogance was not aimed at people describing nondualism.

People describe nondualism.
And yet, no people describe nondualism.

People are arrogant.
And yet, no people are arrogant.

Take your pick.

[Fairy]

And there are a number of things you say and do that hint at, imply, if not outright indicate that you don't really respect most people here. And yet you seems surprised when you are met with disagreement and to a degree, I hope you'll notice, that is even more so than other posters experience.

If we add in that the way you communicate at the very least seems condescending and seems to place yourself outside of the fallible humans the patterns you see others engaging in, the process of interacting with you is unpleasant.

If anyone does not engage in the process the way you think it should be carried out, they can expect to either be judged as being like other human beings in a negative way and/or somehow proving something. IOW you allow yourself to draw conclusions very quickly about what you think is logically necessitated by their behavior - apart from this being, often, an unjustified conclusion (other options are available) it comes off as 'you do this my way or I will point out negative things about you'

A dialog from self to self interacting with ItSelf only. . AKA in the form of Iwannaplato & Age

I have seen your judgments of me and they no longer bother me. If you want to dismiss this with your usual judgments, so be it, as you would say.

No one is bothered.
And yet, someone is bothered.

No one is being condescending.
And yet, someone is being condescending.

No one is reacting to negativity.
And yet, someone is reacting to negativity.

No one is being judgmental.
And yet, someone is being judgmental.

No one is knowing more than others.
and yet, someone is knowing more than others.

No one is agreeing or disagreeing.
Any yet, someone is agreeing or disagreeing.


Choose the right one, and move past it, move on.