The Case Against Suicide

[Age]

Gazza!! Are you going to answer this extremely important question I am asking..




So you don't gradually reduce them, it's just nope, not taking them now?

I went off them and stayed off of them for about a year at one point and did fine until I finally ended up in the hospital again. I remember sitting in the emergency room sobbing over something. Later that night I was tossing and turning in the bed, thinking demons and all sorts of things were after me.

Well I've got the certificate, but I can't comprehend that. The trick is, know WHEN to self-medicate - and again, a gradual dose.

Like, I've been up all night - I knew I wouldn't be able to sleep - never can when off the booze > 48hrs & working on PC. So, I might take a qtr or half an olanzapine to slow my awesome brain down a tad.

OBVIOUSLY one who is NOT IN 'self-control', like "attofishpi" here obviously is not, is NOT the best one to be advising others AT ALL.

[Age]

I guess this is a good a place as any.

I’ve struggled to find a good argument against suicide that doesn’t involve either nonsense or special pleading to life or hindsight bias.

The way I see it if there is no greater reason to meaning to life then there isn’t really a reason to keep going. Not reason to really struggle and fight for a place in the world. No reason to really pursue anything. One can just end their life and be done with the pursuit and struggle.

To me arguments for staying alive or for meaning only work if you HAVE to live. Filling life with good things, doing what you love, all that junk only has logical weight if one is unable to die until a set time. Baring that I see no reason for living. Desire for pleasures only applies if you are alive, if you die there is no need for any of that. Same with love, friendship, food, money, etc.

End the perception and a new life will occur for how we percieve is how we live. True suicide is not physical death but the death of a mindset.

Obviously the killing or ending of the life of a body, so to is the death or end of ALL 'mindsets' within that body. So, the ending of 'the life of the body' could be said and argued to be MORE of a so-called 'True suicide'.

The death of a mindset is NOT so-called 'True suicide', it is just ANOTHER FORM of 'suicide' compared to the death of a body.

Also, and 'now' would be a good time to mention, AGAIN, how the talk of the 'death of the unbelievers' is 'justified' in books like the 'quran'. As I have been continually trying to get people to TALK and DISCUSS. The words in the 'quran' are NOT about the harming NOR the killing of 'human bodies' AT ALL, but of the 'killing' of the Wrong 'thoughts', the Wrong 'person', WITHIN the human body.

BUT I STILL WAIT.

The DEATH of the 'mindset' is ALL, and ONLY, what is being REFERRED TO in the book and religion of 'islam'.

Your desire for self destruction is a calling from the heart for an end to what you see and how you see is what you see. End the mindset, end the perception. That is a true death.

The words, 'Letting go', are ALSO REFERRING TO THE DEATH of the 'old one' or TO THE DEATH the 'old person', which is just the Wrong thinking, WITHIN.

If all is futile then go all the way and observe your mindset as futile as well as there is no point in seeing futility.