Virgin Weddings???

[Age]

Jesus was probably banging Mary Magdeline and many other birds around at the time that heard about his GODly sexual power.

Did you have something from the Bible to support Christ stating VIRGINS only are to be permitted marriage? (*please provide)

btw. I am Catholic, (i think i can still consider myself as one, even tho I disagree with the irony of no permittance of contraception and no to abortions)

The practice of the Catholic Church (virgin marriages), for thousands of years, should stand as testament itself to its importance, role, and function in a strong moral society.

If your daughter wasn't chaste before marriage, then the Church wouldn't marry her. I believe that tradition needs to make a comeback, ASAP.

If a practice changes, then would that not stand as testament, itself, to its importance?

[Age]

When I mention virginity, your brain automatically goes to Sodomy...why is that? Are you gay?

A young woman's sexual value is like 1000x more valuable than a young man's.

This is one of those times when and where you are presenting just a conclusion, ONLY.

Do you have ANY actual premises that support 'this conclusion'?

It only takes one man to sustain reproduction among 1000 women.

While 1000 men with one woman, may very well die off quickly.

Therefore the sexual value of women/females is much higher than men/males...and this is true throughout the Mammalian specie as a total.

Consult with the price of Bulls versus Cows, or any livestock. Females are worth more than males, by dollar amounts.

AGAIN, do you have ANY ACTUAL premises that support 'your conclusion'?

If yes, then what are they, exactly?

[attofishpi]

Jesus was probably banging Mary Magdeline and many other birds around at the time that heard about his GODly sexual power.

Did you have something from the Bible to support Christ stating VIRGINS only are to be permitted marriage? (*please provide)

btw. I am Catholic, (i think i can still consider myself as one, even tho I disagree with the irony of no permittance of contraception and no to abortions)

The practice of the Catholic Church (virgin marriages), for thousands of years, should stand as testament itself to its importance, role, and function in a strong moral society.

If your daughter wasn't chaste before marriage, then the Church wouldn't marry her. I believe that tradition needs to make a comeback, ASAP.

The Catholic church has not been around for 'thousands of years'.. ..and personally, I couldn't give a rats arse about a bunch of men (creators of Catholicism) dictating to me their ridiculous & bigoted interpretation of what my Christ said and did.

Also, you don't need to sign off all the time with A.SAP, it's clear from your views on women that u r most definitely a SAP.

[Wizard22]

Is your opening post a so-called 'real argument', or, what you believe is true and/or something else?

Catholicism used to practice virgin weddings for a very long time...in order to screen non-Catholic males out of their society.

It's a good practice of Exclusivity. Any and every good and decent Father would do the same thing, for his daughter, supposing he actually cares, loves, and protects her.

Unfortunately, we live in a time in the West, where Western "fathers" are more like Bastards. They're absent. There's a plethora of divorced parents, liberal beta-cuckold "fathers", or fathers who simply "don't give a shit" that their daughters run off and fuck with gangbangers and other degenerates, or worse, drug-addicted meth heads and heroin addicts.

That's why the West is, as it is, and getting worse. Nobody cares, and Liberalism, loose morals, or no morals (Amorality) is completely self-destructive, as is now obvious to the growing majority.


...there's my arguments.

Go ahead and refute them.

[Wizard22]

The Catholic church has not been around for 'thousands of years'.. ..and personally, I couldn't give a rats arse about a bunch of men (creators of Catholicism) dictating to me their ridiculous & bigoted interpretation of what my Christ said and did.

WHAT?!

Pick up a history book??

Also, you don't need to sign off all the time with A.SAP, it's clear from your views on women that u r most definitely a SAP.

[Age]

Is your opening post a so-called 'real argument', or, what you believe is true and/or something else?

Catholicism used to practice virgin weddings for a very long time...in order to screen non-Catholic males out of their society.

And how did so-called "catholicism" SCREEN the "virgins" from the "non virgins", EXACTLY, before the so-called 'virgin weddings' took place?

It's a good practice of Exclusivity. Any and every good and decent Father would do the same thing, for his daughter, supposing he actually cares, loves, and protects her.

And, HOW is ANY and EVERY so-called "good and decent father" going to CHECK if the daughter is a virgin or not?

Does the father just ask, or does the father OPEN the vagina, have A LOOK, and CHECK for their own selves?

Unfortunately, we live in a time in the West, where Western "fathers" are more like Bastards.

What even is a "bastard" to you, in the society that you are from, EXACTLY?

They're absent.

What do you want the fathers to do? Sleep with their daughters so NO one fucks them, before marriage?

How much do you want father to 'be there', for the daughters?

There's a plethora of divorced parents, liberal beta-cuckold "fathers", or fathers who simply "don't give a shit" that their daughters run off and fuck with gangbangers and other degenerates, or worse, drug-addicted meth heads and heroin addicts.

And, there are all sorts of mothers ALSO.

In fact ALL of you human beings are DIFFERENT.

you OBVIOUSLY do things that others DETEST and HATE, ABSOLUTELY. So, WHY should ANY one else be different in this regard.

That's why the West is, as it is, and getting worse.

SO, what caused the so-called "west" to be 'as it is', and 'getting worse'?

Also, 'getting worse' relative to 'what', exactly?

By the way, where, EXACTLY, does the so-called "west" start and finish?

Nobody cares,

Are you REALLY NOT YET AWARE of the CONTRADICTION and HYPOCRISY, here?

If no, then let 'us' know and I WILL INFORM you.

and Liberalism, loose morals, or no morals (Amorality) is completely self-destructive, as is now obvious to the growing majority.

The so-claimed 'growing majority' of 'what', exactly? The "east".

...there's my arguments.

Are you some kind of COMPLETE IDIOT?

MY QUESTION WAS, and STILL IS:

Is your opening post a so-called 'real argument', or, what you believe is true and/or something else?

Go ahead and refute them.

AGAIN, they were NOT 'arguments'. They were, AGAIN, your conclusions, ONLY. Of which some are WAITING for you to provide ACTUAL premises to, and for.

[Wizard22]

And how did so-called "catholicism" SCREEN the "virgins" from the "non virgins", EXACTLY, before the so-called 'virgin weddings' took place?

Nun and Church Sisters would visually inspect the Bride-to-be's genitals, before the Bride would be dressed in her White wedding gown.

A White wedding gown symbolized that she retained her Chastity. Protestant religions use white wedding gowns today, as a mockery.

It's like "Gay Marriage", which is another popular, postmodern Sacrilege.

And, HOW is ANY and EVERY so-called "good and decent father" going to CHECK if the daughter is a virgin or not?

Does the father just ask, or does the father OPEN the vagina, have A LOOK, and CHECK for their own selves?

A Good father would have earned the trust and respect of her teenage daughter; she would tell him.

But the Church would check anyway. They had to.

What even is a "bastard" to you, in the society that you are from, EXACTLY?

A completely or mostly absent, biological father.

Orphans are examples of Bastards. Their biological fathers abandoned them when they were born. Exceptions to this, are when parents die or are killed--but these are excused, because aunts/uncles, and direct biological-kin should take the responsibility for caring and loving them. This would be a case where 'Bastardization' is avoided. If children have Good fathers, who are present, then extended-family are presumed replacements. This is example of Kinship.

What do you want the fathers to do? Sleep with their daughters so NO one fucks them, before marriage?

How much do you want father to 'be there', for the daughters?

The father, should at the very least, screen the worst of the worst types of males, away from their daughters.

Without male-screening, we get the modern day (Postmodern), degenerate, amoral, immoral Civilization.

It can barely be called "Civilization" anymore. The moral practices I'm describing, are what built our original Western Civilization.

And, there are all sorts of mothers ALSO.

In fact ALL of you human beings are DIFFERENT.

you OBVIOUSLY do things that others DETEST and HATE, ABSOLUTELY. So, WHY should ANY one else be different in this regard.

Correct, women and mothers can be just as bad, sometimes worse, as bastard-fathers and men.

SO, what caused the so-called "west" to be 'as it is', and 'getting worse'?

Also, 'getting worse' relative to 'what', exactly?

By the way, where, EXACTLY, does the so-called "west" start and finish?

Western Morality/Spirituality has severely weakened, hence this thread.

Nobody cares,

Are you REALLY NOT YET AWARE of the CONTRADICTION and HYPOCRISY, here?

If no, then let 'us' know and I WILL INFORM you.

Go ahead then, inform me.

and Liberalism, loose morals, or no morals (Amorality) is completely self-destructive, as is now obvious to the growing majority.

The so-claimed 'growing majority' of 'what', exactly? The "east".

I meant that, a growing majority of Westerners, are realizing the damage of loose morality (Neo-Liberalism), and its absolutely destructive, anti-social effects.

Are you some kind of COMPLETE IDIOT?

MY QUESTION WAS, and STILL IS:

Is your opening post a so-called 'real argument', or, what you believe is true and/or something else?

You don't have any ground for calling others idiotic, AgeGPT.

You're the most inhuman, unhuman contributor on the forum. You respond as a computer-AI program would.

AGAIN, they were NOT 'arguments'. They were, AGAIN, your conclusions, ONLY. Of which some are WAITING for you to provide ACTUAL premises to, and for.

I already gave you the premises to my conclusions.

You don't seem to understand the difference.

[attofishpi]

The Catholic church has not been around for 'thousands of years'.. ..and personally, I couldn't give a rats arse about a bunch of men (creators of Catholicism) dictating to me their ridiculous & bigoted interpretation of what my Christ said and did.

WHAT?!

Pick up a history book??

Also, you don't need to sign off all the time with A.SAP, it's clear from your views on women that u r most definitely a SAP.

If you were to consider the Catholic church as being established in the 1st Century, then unless it was prior to 25 years after Jesus popped off, then it ain't plural as in 'thousandS' of years ago..

Although I admit, I hadn't realised it went so far back to the main man himself. My mate GPT has this:-

The Catholic Church traces its origins to the ministry of Jesus Christ and the apostles in the 1st century AD. The Church is believed to have been founded by Jesus Christ, who appointed the Apostle Peter as the leader of his followers, establishing the papacy. The term "Catholic" itself means "universal," reflecting the mission of the Church to spread the teachings of Christ worldwide.

So if we accept that this "universal" = Catholic Church was established during Christ's life, then I stand corrected - thousands it is. No wonder GOD had me born into Christ's official Church and I now know rather a lot about GOD's power within our reality.

Still, I'm starting to get a tad impatient for an invite to go to California and meet my sage..and even the Christ himself. Maybe, just maybe, I have indeed been...too naughty a boy...nah!

[Wizard22]

If you were to consider the Catholic church as being established in the 1st Century, then unless it was prior to 25 years after Jesus popped off, then it ain't plural as in 'thousandS' of years ago..

Although I admit, I hadn't realised it went so far back to the main man himself. My mate GPT has this:-

The Catholic Church traces its origins to the ministry of Jesus Christ and the apostles in the 1st century AD. The Church is believed to have been founded by Jesus Christ, who appointed the Apostle Peter as the leader of his followers, establishing the papacy. The term "Catholic" itself means "universal," reflecting the mission of the Church to spread the teachings of Christ worldwide.

So if we accept that this "universal" = Catholic Church was established during Christ's life, then I stand corrected - thousands it is. No wonder GOD had me born into Christ's official Church and I now know rather a lot about GOD's power within our reality.

Still, I'm starting to get a tad impatient for an invite to go to California and meet my sage..and even the Christ himself. Maybe, just maybe, I have indeed been...too naughty a boy...nah!

We all have a lot to learn about Christ, me included!

[accelafine]

Does the groom have to be a virgin too?

Btw, the 17th century ended some time ago.

[Wizard22]

Does the groom have to be a virgin too?

Btw, the 17th century ended some time ago.

Only women can be virgin because only women have hymens. Males do not have a hymen to be penetrated.

Isn't this obvious in Middle School sex ed? You should have learned that at 13 years old.

[accelafine]

What a bloody moron.

[Wizard22]

What a bloody moron.

You believe there are 200+ genders and men can get pregnant too, huh? Typical Wokester...

[accelafine]

It's just a person who hasn't had sex you twat. And why are you even thinking about your daughter's hymen? What a creepy pervert. Yuk.

[Wizard22]

It's just a person who hasn't had sex you twat. And why are you even thinking about your daughter's hymen? What a creepy pervert. Yuk.

So a father who lets his daughter run her twat through 20 ghetto trash, thugs, is not a "creepy pervert" according to your logic...

Gotcha...anything else, dumbass?