The Case Against Suicide

[Gary Childress]

Why go on if there is no reason to? Sounds illogical:

It's not illogical, it just has no ultimate reason.

It is illogical, one needs a reason to live. Death happens eventually

True. Death requires the least effort of anything. It's like gravity. And when a person loses all reason to want to put effort into life, we need to receive death threats from someone else just to scare us into putting more effort into life. However, receiving death threats from others is extremely depressing and undermines a person's will to live.

[attofishpi]

Obviously not otherwise I wouldn’t ask the question. When you’re dead such questions mean nothing.

Are you suffering from depression? ..everything seems pointless to me when that cloud is there - rarely I get it, usually if i've had a booze bender for 3 days or more.

My uncle hung himself from depression (i had no idea of his condition)

It's worse than when GOD is fucking wiv me, in a 3mth HELL mode - there I try and fight for my life, but depression - no thanks.

Why do people assume depression when people question the worth of life? Sounds like people are scared of the answers.

Seems like it’s easier to just label people sick.

Nah, just generally cannot fathom into the depths of someone that's not depressed, but feels there is nothing interesting about life. I like learning about the nature of every thing REAL IT Y --- personally, I find it all fascinating.

(I guess that's key to Y i like living more than blowing my head off)

[Gary Childress]

Yes, I am grappling with whether I bother this Christmas myself!




Nah..it just makes you Gary Childress, a dude that could probably find something more fun to do than waste his time on wot are likely a bunch of karmic affected degenerates..

There are only three types of people in the world. Karmic affected degenerates, karmic unaffected degenerates, and non-degenerates. And if we think we're not degenerates, then that makes us degenerates.

See how that works?

..yes, yes i do...it makes you miserable and incapable of making your own decisions...especially ones where you could improve your circumstances.

Improvement requires effort. It wears me out just to think about it.

[attofishpi]

..get off the fuckin' pills then FFS. No motivation, bin there, done that.

[Atla]

Why go on if there is no reason to? Sounds illogical:

It's not illogical, it just has no ultimate reason.

It is illogical, one needs a reason to live. Death happens eventually

No, one doesn't need an ultimate reason to live. The only thing we need is for life not be worse than death (nonexistence).

[Gary Childress]

..get off the fuckin' pills then FFS. No motivation, bin there, done that.

Me Mum doesn't want me off the pills. I drive her crazy when I'm off my pills. She sends me to the psychiatric hospital when I'm off my rocker and I can't stand psychiatric hospitals, nor can I afford the expense.

[accelafine]

Obviously not otherwise I wouldn’t ask the question. When you’re dead such questions mean nothing.

Are you suffering from depression? ..everything seems pointless to me when that cloud is there - rarely I get it, usually if i've had a booze bender for 3 days or more.

My uncle hung himself from depression (i had no idea of his condition)

It's worse than when GOD is fucking wiv me, in a 3mth HELL mode - there I try and fight for my life, but depression - no thanks.

Why do people assume depression when people question the worth of life? Sounds like people are scared of the answers.

Seems like it’s easier to just label people sick.

Good point. There are many reasons why suicide is practical. People make a lot of assumptions because they lack the insight and empathy to imagine that anyone could feel differently from the way they do. 'Therapy' isn't going to cure loneliness, or approaching dementia, or various health problems etc. etc. Why is everyone obliged to be 'in love with life'? What's the point in giving your home and savings to a sub-standard 'care' facility so you can sit there all day in mental torment. Never mind hell. Hell is real for most people.

[attofishpi]

Oh GOD, here is one of the other extremely miserable atheists.

[accelafine]

..get off the fuckin' pills then FFS. No motivation, bin there, done that.

That's a very stupid piece of advice to give, not to mention dangerous.

[attofishpi]

..get off the fuckin' pills then FFS. No motivation, bin there, done that.

Me Mum doesn't want me off the pills. I drive her crazy when I'm off my pills. She sends me to the psychiatric hospital when I'm off my rocker and I can't stand psychiatric hospitals, nor can I afford the expense.

FFS. Stand on your own two feet, you're a grown man. Get away from the woman, ease off of the pills (dosage), the brain has that plastic thang, it self corrects eventually.

Hey, how many different pills are you on?

[accelafine]

Oh GOD, here is one of the other extremely miserable atheists.

Interesting. Gary isn't an atheist. He's obsessed with 'god'. And you spend all your time drunk so I'm pretty sure you are in no position to judge. Do you not think that some people can imagine how others might feel? You are horribly self absorbed.

[Gary Childress]

..get off the fuckin' pills then FFS. No motivation, bin there, done that.

Me Mum doesn't want me off the pills. I drive her crazy when I'm off my pills. She sends me to the psychiatric hospital when I'm off my rocker and I can't stand psychiatric hospitals, nor can I afford the expense.

FFS. Stand on your own two feet, you're a grown man. Get away from the woman, ease off of the pills (dosage), the brain has that plastic thang, it self corrects eventually.

Hey, how many different pills are you on?

On 3 psychiatric meds right now. Anti-psychotic, anti-depressant and mood stabilizer. None of them do anything but dull my mind. But when I'm off them, I'm off my rocker and drive everyone around me up the wall.

[accelafine]

Me Mum doesn't want me off the pills. I drive her crazy when I'm off my pills. She sends me to the psychiatric hospital when I'm off my rocker and I can't stand psychiatric hospitals, nor can I afford the expense.

FFS. Stand on your own two feet, you're a grown man. Get away from the woman, ease off of the pills (dosage), the brain has that plastic thang, it self corrects eventually.

Hey, how many different pills are you on?

On 3 psychiatric meds right now. Anti-psychotic, anti-depressant and mood stabilizer. None of them do anything but dull my mind. But when I'm off them, I'm off my rocker and drive everyone around me up the wall.

'Drive them up the wall' or are they terrified of you? 'Drive them up the wall' makes it sound harmless but just quite annoying.

[Darkneos]

It's not illogical, it just has no ultimate reason.

It is illogical, one needs a reason to live. Death happens eventually

No, one doesn't need an ultimate reason to live. The only thing we need is for life not be worse than death (nonexistence).

Maybe I just can’t really fathom wants and needs.

To me if I don’t have to do something then I don’t do it. Saying you want something feels weak to me because I think wants are weaker than needs.

[attofishpi]

Me Mum doesn't want me off the pills. I drive her crazy when I'm off my pills. She sends me to the psychiatric hospital when I'm off my rocker and I can't stand psychiatric hospitals, nor can I afford the expense.

FFS. Stand on your own two feet, you're a grown man. Get away from the woman, ease off of the pills (dosage), the brain has that plastic thang, it self corrects eventually.

Hey, how many different pills are you on?

On 3 psychiatric meds right now. Anti-psychotic, anti-depressant and mood stabilizer. None of them do anything but dull my mind. But when I'm off them, I'm off my rocker and drive everyone around me up the wall.

Gazza, you are a very intelligent chap. Please email or PM me the names of the meds so I can do a little research. I've said it many times, you need to GRADUALLY reduce the dosage, allow the plastic effect of the brain to gradually self-adjust.
(& don't tell Mum or the experimenter medics that couldn't give a rats arse about YOU, all they care about is their money/bonuses)

AND..diet. Don't drink too much coffee, and reduce sugar/carbs. Eat lots of veg, greens - kale is really good - brocolli etc...not fast food shite OMG, I feel like shit if i eat a Mc burger.