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Belinda wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:42 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 7:41 pm
Again, if that's all it is, then frat parties are "religions."
So "has rituals that bind," just won't work. And "mentions God" won't work. And even "calls themselves religious" doesn't work, because some people you might regard as religious don't, and some who are rather irreligious do.
Oh don't get me started on the rituals in Catholic Mass. I can't remember the last time I went, years ago.

Up down, up down, mother brown, sit...sit...sit...kneel, pray, stand up, sit, keel (oh yes and sing in within that mix - standing!)

Then it's time to eat Jesus. Everyone starts shuffling towards me in the pew and I step back as they look at me questioningly and I must tell them I've already eaten (likely a bacon n egg mcmuffin & hash brown (on way to church) + Jesus a few times in the past - figures its nice to leave some for others and their offspring through time)

Now, IC you strike me as a large consumer of Christ - how often do you have a nibble?
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attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:47 pm
Belinda wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:42 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 7:41 pm
Again, if that's all it is, then frat parties are "religions."
So "has rituals that bind," just won't work. And "mentions God" won't work. And even "calls themselves religious" doesn't work, because some people you might regard as religious don't, and some who are rather irreligious do.
Oh don't get me started on the rituals in Catholic Mass. I can't remember the last time I went, years ago.

Up down, up down, mother brown, sit...sit...sit...kneel, pray, stand up, sit, keel (oh yes and sing in within that mix - standing!)

Then it's time to eat Jesus. Everyone starts shuffling towards me in the pew and I step back as they look at me questioningly and I must tell them I've already eaten (likely a bacon n egg mcmuffin & hash brown (on way to church) + Jesus a few times in the past - figures its nice to leave some for others and their offspring through time)

Now, IC you strike me as a large consumer of Christ - how often do you have a nibble?
Those rituals would not work for me either, the symbolism is foreign to me. However what I mean by rituals is for instance what schools used to do, and maybe still do at morning assemblies; particularly that thing I have seen films of American doing hands on hearts sort of thing.Then I have also seen films of some Jews doing actions like wearing a little box on the forehead, and holding rituals like Passover feasts. Muslims too I understand do a lot of rituals such as washing before praying and using prayer mats. I don't refer only to what Xians do.

Hitler was strong on ritualism and his invented rituals brought him a lot of his power over other Germans.

Then there is a lot of ritual connected with the English class system as headed by the Royal Family. The class system is going out of fashion except among the rich for whom it gives a distinct advantage in power and affluence, not to mention those, mainly older people , who have been indoctrinated while young.

The religious ritual that involves consuming the body and blood of Christ has uncomfortable associations with human sacrifice, as does the Atonement of the Crucifixion. I love the man Jesus and his courage,love, and sacrifice for others, and I confess I don't quite understand what the rituals of Easter and Holy Communion are supposed to be about, if not human sacrifice.I keep hoping to learn more.

Christmas rituals, with their emphasis on enjoyment and even pleasant misrule, are generally pleasant with their ritual eating and drinking in company with other family members. and friends. However this too has the bad sad effect of excluding the many individuals who don't have family, friends, or who are homeless and excluded from so much else.

Personal rituals are sometimes based in pseudo magic and superstition. Some church rituals are done with that attitude, in order to force God, the gods, or fate to be nice.

The Scottish ritual of Hogmanay (New Year's Eve) is one of the best .
"It's coming yet for all that when man to man the world o'er shall brothers be for all that"
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Belinda wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 12:46 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:47 pm
Belinda wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:42 am
So "has rituals that bind," just won't work. And "mentions God" won't work. And even "calls themselves religious" doesn't work, because some people you might regard as religious don't, and some who are rather irreligious do.
Oh don't get me started on the rituals in Catholic Mass. I can't remember the last time I went, years ago.

Up down, up down, mother brown, sit...sit...sit...kneel, pray, stand up, sit, keel (oh yes and sing in within that mix - standing!)

Then it's time to eat Jesus. Everyone starts shuffling towards me in the pew and I step back as they look at me questioningly and I must tell them I've already eaten (likely a bacon n egg mcmuffin & hash brown (on way to church) + Jesus a few times in the past - figures its nice to leave some for others and their offspring through time)

Now, IC you strike me as a large consumer of Christ - how often do you have a nibble?
Those rituals would not work for me either, the symbolism is foreign to me. However what I mean by rituals is for instance what schools used to do, and maybe still do at morning assemblies; particularly that thing I have seen films of American doing hands on hearts sort of thing.Then I have also seen films of some Jews doing actions like wearing a little box on the forehead, and holding rituals like Passover feasts. Muslims too I understand do a lot of rituals such as washing before praying and using prayer mats. I don't refer only to what Xians do.

Hitler was strong on ritualism and his invented rituals brought him a lot of his power over other Germans.

Then there is a lot of ritual connected with the English class system as headed by the Royal Family. The class system is going out of fashion except among the rich for whom it gives a distinct advantage in power and affluence, not to mention those, mainly older people , who have been indoctrinated while young.

The religious ritual that involves consuming the body and blood of Christ has uncomfortable associations with human sacrifice, as does the Atonement of the Crucifixion. I love the man Jesus and his courage,love, and sacrifice for others, and I confess I don't quite understand what the rituals of Easter and Holy Communion are supposed to be about, if not human sacrifice.I keep hoping to learn more.

Christmas rituals, with their emphasis on enjoyment and even pleasant misrule, are generally pleasant with their ritual eating and drinking in company with other family members. and friends. However this too has the bad sad effect of excluding the many individuals who don't have family, friends, or who are homeless and excluded from so much else.

Personal rituals are sometimes based in pseudo magic and superstition. Some church rituals are done with that attitude, in order to force God, the gods, or fate to be nice.

The Scottish ritual of Hogmanay (New Year's Eve) is one of the best .
"It's coming yet for all that when man to man the world o'er shall brothers be for all that"
Don't misunder_stand me.

I've had faith in Christ all my life.

If GOD hadn't forced me into hell where I felt its wrath to the point that I would prefer to be crucified (so some many times) I would not care much for the DIVINE comprehension to this 'being' indeed, this REAL_IT Y?

It's only because of the amount of suffering that GOD made me endure ultimately - where I needed FAITH in Christ (rather recently and when simply doing some house renovations - the final TEST) that I believe GOD to be DIVINE and NOT a mere AI & simulation.

..strange Belinda, all those books you read, & IC, matter very little to comprehension of IT.
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attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 12:53 pm
Belinda wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 12:46 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:47 pm

Oh don't get me started on the rituals in Catholic Mass. I can't remember the last time I went, years ago.

Up down, up down, mother brown, sit...sit...sit...kneel, pray, stand up, sit, keel (oh yes and sing in within that mix - standing!)

Then it's time to eat Jesus. Everyone starts shuffling towards me in the pew and I step back as they look at me questioningly and I must tell them I've already eaten (likely a bacon n egg mcmuffin & hash brown (on way to church) + Jesus a few times in the past - figures its nice to leave some for others and their offspring through time)

Now, IC you strike me as a large consumer of Christ - how often do you have a nibble?
Those rituals would not work for me either, the symbolism is foreign to me. However what I mean by rituals is for instance what schools used to do, and maybe still do at morning assemblies; particularly that thing I have seen films of American doing hands on hearts sort of thing.Then I have also seen films of some Jews doing actions like wearing a little box on the forehead, and holding rituals like Passover feasts. Muslims too I understand do a lot of rituals such as washing before praying and using prayer mats. I don't refer only to what Xians do.

Hitler was strong on ritualism and his invented rituals brought him a lot of his power over other Germans.

Then there is a lot of ritual connected with the English class system as headed by the Royal Family. The class system is going out of fashion except among the rich for whom it gives a distinct advantage in power and affluence, not to mention those, mainly older people , who have been indoctrinated while young.

The religious ritual that involves consuming the body and blood of Christ has uncomfortable associations with human sacrifice, as does the Atonement of the Crucifixion. I love the man Jesus and his courage,love, and sacrifice for others, and I confess I don't quite understand what the rituals of Easter and Holy Communion are supposed to be about, if not human sacrifice.I keep hoping to learn more.

Christmas rituals, with their emphasis on enjoyment and even pleasant misrule, are generally pleasant with their ritual eating and drinking in company with other family members. and friends. However this too has the bad sad effect of excluding the many individuals who don't have family, friends, or who are homeless and excluded from so much else.

Personal rituals are sometimes based in pseudo magic and superstition. Some church rituals are done with that attitude, in order to force God, the gods, or fate to be nice.

The Scottish ritual of Hogmanay (New Year's Eve) is one of the best .
"It's coming yet for all that when man to man the world o'er shall brothers be for all that"
Don't misunder_stand me.

I've had faith in Christ all my life.

If GOD hadn't forced me into hell where I felt its wrath to the point that I would prefer to be crucified (so some many times) I would not care much for the DIVINE comprehension to this 'being' indeed, this REAL_IT Y?

It's only because of the amount of suffering that GOD made me endure ultimately - where I needed FAITH in Christ (rather recently and when simply doing some house renovations - the final TEST) that I believe GOD to be DIVINE and NOT a mere AI & simulation.

..strange Belinda, all those books you read, & IC, matter very little to comprehension of IT.
Christ is an iconic figure: Jesus of Nazareth is a historical person.
I don't know what you mean by IT and REAL_IT Y.
Such faith as yours is not my experience, and without knowing you personally I can't account for it. Such religion as I have is intellectual not faith.
In connection with reading books, there are levels of 'reading' . The most advanced level is when the reader asks the author questions at every turn and with due scepticism tries to seek his own answer to the author's propositions.
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Belinda wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:14 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 12:53 pm
Belinda wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 12:46 pm

Those rituals would not work for me either, the symbolism is foreign to me. However what I mean by rituals is for instance what schools used to do, and maybe still do at morning assemblies; particularly that thing I have seen films of American doing hands on hearts sort of thing.Then I have also seen films of some Jews doing actions like wearing a little box on the forehead, and holding rituals like Passover feasts. Muslims too I understand do a lot of rituals such as washing before praying and using prayer mats. I don't refer only to what Xians do.

Hitler was strong on ritualism and his invented rituals brought him a lot of his power over other Germans.

Then there is a lot of ritual connected with the English class system as headed by the Royal Family. The class system is going out of fashion except among the rich for whom it gives a distinct advantage in power and affluence, not to mention those, mainly older people , who have been indoctrinated while young.

The religious ritual that involves consuming the body and blood of Christ has uncomfortable associations with human sacrifice, as does the Atonement of the Crucifixion. I love the man Jesus and his courage,love, and sacrifice for others, and I confess I don't quite understand what the rituals of Easter and Holy Communion are supposed to be about, if not human sacrifice.I keep hoping to learn more.

Christmas rituals, with their emphasis on enjoyment and even pleasant misrule, are generally pleasant with their ritual eating and drinking in company with other family members. and friends. However this too has the bad sad effect of excluding the many individuals who don't have family, friends, or who are homeless and excluded from so much else.

Personal rituals are sometimes based in pseudo magic and superstition. Some church rituals are done with that attitude, in order to force God, the gods, or fate to be nice.

The Scottish ritual of Hogmanay (New Year's Eve) is one of the best .
Don't misunder_stand me.

I've had faith in Christ all my life.

If GOD hadn't forced me into hell where I felt its wrath to the point that I would prefer to be crucified (so some many times) I would not care much for the DIVINE comprehension to this 'being' indeed, this REAL_IT Y?

It's only because of the amount of suffering that GOD made me endure ultimately - where I needed FAITH in Christ (rather recently and when simply doing some house renovations - the final TEST) that I believe GOD to be DIVINE and NOT a mere AI & simulation.

..strange Belinda, all those books you read, & IC, matter very little to comprehension of IT.
Christ is an iconic figure: Jesus of Nazareth is a historical person.
I don't know what you mean by IT and REAL_IT Y.
Since 1997 where this entity GOD started manipulating my perception of reality, I comprehended that ALL of my perceivable reality was at the behest of this entity. Therefore, I don't term GOD as "he" I term it, as IT. A thing a being - the GOD that is affecting me, is not in the form of a man.

Thus, I consider GOD as pantheistic to all reality. Then, getting to the REAL IT Y?

GOD is akin to REAL Information Technology Y?

IT?

From what I have experienced of GOD, where ALL reality is akin to a computer game, a matrix, a virtual world...Did we evolve into an intelligent system that we humans created? REAL IT Y? <-- an IT intelligent system?

So much of what I have experienced leans itself towards that...a mere system of binary computer digital reality.

But no. I am a Christian.

* however, where you state "Such religion as I have is intellectual not faith."

I have "Intellect coupled with Faith."

The books I tend to read are not philosophy nor fiction, when I read a book it is as best to effort, factual and scientific.
I attempt to read other stuff, theological, fictional but get bored too easily.

What I have noticed about myself, since knowing GOD to exist is that I have very little patience for people talking about "weird experiences" and spiritual waffle.. I find it rather, indeed, extremely shallow in comparison. GOD IS LIKE A COMPUTER ---> PRECISELY ACURATE - not spiritually waffly!!


I know you think I have some disdain for intellectuals, no I don't. I know I have lacked the education in some areas I would have liked and to a degree I feel a little jealous that others have had such opportunity. Personally, I have guided my intellect in directions that I feel are important, and in parallel to my comprehension of GOD.

The thing I really don't like is where people of much KNOWLEDGE - that is, well read individuals that think their quoting Boris the Badger said "zz" etc..as if it amounts to anything.

Knowledge is merely a store of information - sure, analysed and stored - but how good was the analysis?

I've got ALL the store of ALL the books you and anyone on this forum have read at my fingertips - NOW!

Certainly, I have INTELLECT that you speak of often. I am certain I can analyse information as and when required - probably better than MOST on this forum... (to be honest, I think many of you people that consider yourselves "intellectuals" find this a little disconcerting) 8)

atto bla bla ing - need to play some Behemoth!! --->>
People that think that those that haven't had the level of education haven't something worthwhile of an ear, when actually, they have a life experience and perhaps are INTELLECTUAL, are actually intelligent, and given the same knowledge that some others of more fortunate circumstance, would apply that INTELLECT to have a far better analysis of such a knowledge base to provide a better result. I'm waffling, indeed a 6 pack n chardonnay, 1150pm and it's time for VR. :D
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Thanks for all that, Fish. You are a seeker.I hope so.

You wrote: "----have guided my intellect in directions that I feel are important" As for formal education, I'd have been unlikely to have my ideas extended had I not had some formal education and the guidance of three or four people I was fortunate enough to meet. I don't actually know anything for a fact. I mostly try out ideas to see if they are a help.
Concerning God, there must be as many ways to worship God as there are people.
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Belinda wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 10:04 pm Concerning God, there must be as many ways to worship God as there are people.
Actually, there are as many ways to worship God as there are Gods.
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attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:47 pm Now, IC you strike me as a large consumer of Christ - how often do you have a nibble?
Do you not know that many Christians are not transubstantiationists? :shock:
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Belinda wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 10:04 pm Thanks for all that, Fish. You are a seeker.I hope so.

You wrote: "----have guided my intellect in directions that I feel are important" As for formal education, I'd have been unlikely to have my ideas extended had I not had some formal education and the guidance of three or four people I was fortunate enough to meet. I don't actually know anything for a fact. I mostly try out ideas to see if they are a help.
Concerning God, there must be as many ways to worship God as there are people.
GOD doesn't appear to need or want "worship" from my 27 years of interaction with IT. In fact, the times it put me through some rather harrowing tests and I called it a *$#% it seems to acknowledge some respect my way.

Yes - formal education is important. I did some college but Dad kicked me out prior to Uni so I just got a job instead. I wish Uni was free, but nah, it's big business.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 10:14 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:47 pm Now, IC you strike me as a large consumer of Christ - how often do you have a nibble?
Do you not know that many Christians are not transubstantiationists? :shock:
Well look at that for a word!

I don't consider myself "transubstantiationist", even when having a nibble. I got rather angry one of the last times I attended Mass when a priest insisted to GOD that the eucharist be literally the body and blood of Christ, what an idiot.

There are so many different forms of 'Christianity' these days, some not in what I consider churches, more like auditoriums - my ex attended one of those wack-job forms of "Christianity". They never did the bread/wine thing...but did some stupid weird shit up the front I won't go into.

So, the question remains as to whether in your form of Christianity do you eat the bread/wine? (as a symbol 'in memory of me')
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attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 12:53 pm
Belinda wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 12:46 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:47 pm

Oh don't get me started on the rituals in Catholic Mass. I can't remember the last time I went, years ago.

Up down, up down, mother brown, sit...sit...sit...kneel, pray, stand up, sit, keel (oh yes and sing in within that mix - standing!)

Then it's time to eat Jesus. Everyone starts shuffling towards me in the pew and I step back as they look at me questioningly and I must tell them I've already eaten (likely a bacon n egg mcmuffin & hash brown (on way to church) + Jesus a few times in the past - figures its nice to leave some for others and their offspring through time)

Now, IC you strike me as a large consumer of Christ - how often do you have a nibble?
Those rituals would not work for me either, the symbolism is foreign to me. However what I mean by rituals is for instance what schools used to do, and maybe still do at morning assemblies; particularly that thing I have seen films of American doing hands on hearts sort of thing.Then I have also seen films of some Jews doing actions like wearing a little box on the forehead, and holding rituals like Passover feasts. Muslims too I understand do a lot of rituals such as washing before praying and using prayer mats. I don't refer only to what Xians do.

Hitler was strong on ritualism and his invented rituals brought him a lot of his power over other Germans.

Then there is a lot of ritual connected with the English class system as headed by the Royal Family. The class system is going out of fashion except among the rich for whom it gives a distinct advantage in power and affluence, not to mention those, mainly older people , who have been indoctrinated while young.

The religious ritual that involves consuming the body and blood of Christ has uncomfortable associations with human sacrifice, as does the Atonement of the Crucifixion. I love the man Jesus and his courage,love, and sacrifice for others, and I confess I don't quite understand what the rituals of Easter and Holy Communion are supposed to be about, if not human sacrifice.I keep hoping to learn more.

Christmas rituals, with their emphasis on enjoyment and even pleasant misrule, are generally pleasant with their ritual eating and drinking in company with other family members. and friends. However this too has the bad sad effect of excluding the many individuals who don't have family, friends, or who are homeless and excluded from so much else.

Personal rituals are sometimes based in pseudo magic and superstition. Some church rituals are done with that attitude, in order to force God, the gods, or fate to be nice.

The Scottish ritual of Hogmanay (New Year's Eve) is one of the best .
"It's coming yet for all that when man to man the world o'er shall brothers be for all that"
Don't misunder_stand me.

I've had faith in Christ all my life.
Will you explain what, 'having faith in "christ" all of you life', actually means and/or entails, exactly?

If no, then why not?
attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 12:53 pm If GOD hadn't forced me into hell where I felt its wrath to the point that I would prefer to be crucified (so some many times) I would not care much for the DIVINE comprehension to this 'being' indeed, this REAL_IT Y?
But you do not know what 'this Reality' really is, yet.
attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 12:53 pm It's only because of the amount of suffering that GOD made me endure ultimately - where I needed FAITH in Christ (rather recently and when simply doing some house renovations - the final TEST) that I believe GOD to be DIVINE and NOT a mere AI & simulation.
Thank you for finally actually getting RID OF that most ABSURD and RIDICULOUS assumption that you were, 'previously', HOLDING ONTO.

It took a while but 'we' finally helped 'you' to REMOVE it.

Now, why do you BELIEVE that God, Itself, would want to make that one human being known as "attofishpi", here, 'suffer'?

What was the purpose for making 'you' 'suffer' "attofishpi"?
attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 12:53 pm ..strange Belinda, all those books you read, & IC, matter very little to comprehension of IT.
Do 'you' comprehend IT, fully, yet "attofishpi"?

If yes, then are you absolutely sure?
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Belinda wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:14 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 12:53 pm
Belinda wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 12:46 pm

Those rituals would not work for me either, the symbolism is foreign to me. However what I mean by rituals is for instance what schools used to do, and maybe still do at morning assemblies; particularly that thing I have seen films of American doing hands on hearts sort of thing.Then I have also seen films of some Jews doing actions like wearing a little box on the forehead, and holding rituals like Passover feasts. Muslims too I understand do a lot of rituals such as washing before praying and using prayer mats. I don't refer only to what Xians do.

Hitler was strong on ritualism and his invented rituals brought him a lot of his power over other Germans.

Then there is a lot of ritual connected with the English class system as headed by the Royal Family. The class system is going out of fashion except among the rich for whom it gives a distinct advantage in power and affluence, not to mention those, mainly older people , who have been indoctrinated while young.

The religious ritual that involves consuming the body and blood of Christ has uncomfortable associations with human sacrifice, as does the Atonement of the Crucifixion. I love the man Jesus and his courage,love, and sacrifice for others, and I confess I don't quite understand what the rituals of Easter and Holy Communion are supposed to be about, if not human sacrifice.I keep hoping to learn more.

Christmas rituals, with their emphasis on enjoyment and even pleasant misrule, are generally pleasant with their ritual eating and drinking in company with other family members. and friends. However this too has the bad sad effect of excluding the many individuals who don't have family, friends, or who are homeless and excluded from so much else.

Personal rituals are sometimes based in pseudo magic and superstition. Some church rituals are done with that attitude, in order to force God, the gods, or fate to be nice.

The Scottish ritual of Hogmanay (New Year's Eve) is one of the best .
Don't misunder_stand me.

I've had faith in Christ all my life.

If GOD hadn't forced me into hell where I felt its wrath to the point that I would prefer to be crucified (so some many times) I would not care much for the DIVINE comprehension to this 'being' indeed, this REAL_IT Y?

It's only because of the amount of suffering that GOD made me endure ultimately - where I needed FAITH in Christ (rather recently and when simply doing some house renovations - the final TEST) that I believe GOD to be DIVINE and NOT a mere AI & simulation.

..strange Belinda, all those books you read, & IC, matter very little to comprehension of IT.
Christ is an iconic figure: Jesus of Nazareth is a historical person.
I don't know what you mean by IT and REAL_IT Y.
Such faith as yours is not my experience, and without knowing you personally I can't account for it. Such religion as I have is intellectual not faith.
In connection with reading books, there are levels of 'reading' . The most advanced level is when the reader asks the author questions at every turn and with due scepticism tries to seek his own answer to the author's propositions.
The last sentence here is very well expressed. Shame though most of the posters here very rarely, if ever, ask the authors/the other posters questions, let alone at every turn.
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attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 11:31 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 10:14 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:47 pm Now, IC you strike me as a large consumer of Christ - how often do you have a nibble?
Do you not know that many Christians are not transubstantiationists? :shock:
Well look at that for a word!

I don't consider myself "transubstantiationist", even when having a nibble. I got rather angry one of the last times I attended Mass when a priest insisted to GOD that the eucharist be literally the body and blood of Christ, what an idiot.
you used to INSIST that God was, of all things, just an 'artificial intelligence' created by some other things. Were you an 'idiot' as well?
attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 11:31 pm There are so many different forms of 'Christianity' these days, some not in what I consider churches, more like auditoriums - my ex attended one of those wack-job forms of "Christianity".
But your own personal form of "christianity" is not a 'wack-job form' of "christianity" AT ALL, right?
attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 11:31 pm They never did the bread/wine thing...but did some stupid weird shit up the front I won't go into.
Why will you not go into 'it', here?
attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 11:31 pm So, the question remains as to whether in your form of Christianity do you eat the bread/wine? (as a symbol 'in memory of me')
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attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 11:31 pm There are so many different forms of 'Christianity' these days, some not in what I consider churches, more like auditoriums - my ex attended one of those wack-job forms of "Christianity".
How do you judge which forms are "wack-job," as you call it, and which are real? Genuine question: I'm curious what standard you would employ.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:16 am
attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 11:31 pm There are so many different forms of 'Christianity' these days, some not in what I consider churches, more like auditoriums - my ex attended one of those wack-job forms of "Christianity".
How do you judge which forms are "wack-job," as you call it,
When it's a pastor (ROT_SAP) and not a priest and he's up the front of the auditorium asking people to come down to receive some power thang from him - while he's on some weird power-trip and all these daft sheep go along with it and step up to him as he does some mubo-jumbo on their foreheads with his hand pushed against their heads and they fall backwards, caught by some other muppet in on the scene. (all accompanied to piano music)
This same pastor that went to my girlfriends house, when she was at work - going through her personal stuff and then when she gets home her entire vinyl record collection is deemed 'satanic'!! Wot a moron, rot sap indeed.

Immanuel Can wrote: and which are real? Genuine question: I'm curious what standard you would employ.
Well, IC I was born into an R.C. schooling system courtesy of GOD implanting my soul into my parent's upbringing. (Dad being the boss & catholic)

Really enjoyed what I was taught re Christ in my primary school. Only attended church pretty much when I was going through the con_firm_at_ion stage. Of course, not with my father. I can't say I ever saw him attend a church. No, I used to have to walk to Church every Sunday for a little while around the age of 7 with our Irish next door neighbour, a lovely woman. I chose Peter for my confirmation name.

Thus, clearly Catholicism as an important form of the Christian religion according to GOD\Christ - since they had me run the gauntlet many times, the tests where I pushed the buttons I was warned not to press...came out of the tests with great knowledge about GOD and what it is capable of, heaven, hell etc..

So, you might have seen me mention it before, my soul was inserted pretty much in the vagina of England!! Southampton - born between the TEST & the ITCHEN which feed the SOL'ENTry point :wink: (just above the Isle of Wight - the white blob at the middle bottom part of the coast)

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..the Life of Brian - insertion point! ..explained in an abstract way of a poem..

ANCASTA

This star it shines upon
where it glistens still
where it feeds the soul a quest
to fulfil.
Enter the Test where the sol ent'ers
little child to question Wight.
Itchen to know this little mind
dispensed upon the earth rather blind.
Running through the chaos of time
knocked down and placed well out of line.
From here the child sees much more than they
and reluctant to return to their ridiculous fray.
So here it remains
here to stay
Why?
Why?
Y?
Well, let's take a punt
Cos it's shallow here
And the hEart of us
cares not.

DEAE ANCASTAE GEMINVS MANI VSLM
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