Belinda wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:14 pm
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2024 12:53 pm
Belinda wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2024 12:46 pm
Those rituals would not work for me either, the symbolism is foreign to me. However what I mean by rituals is for instance what schools used to do, and maybe still do at morning assemblies; particularly that thing I have seen films of American doing hands on hearts sort of thing.Then I have also seen films of some Jews doing actions like wearing a little box on the forehead, and holding rituals like Passover feasts. Muslims too I understand do a lot of rituals such as washing before praying and using prayer mats. I don't refer only to what Xians do.
Hitler was strong on ritualism and his invented rituals brought him a lot of his power over other Germans.
Then there is a lot of ritual connected with the English class system as headed by the Royal Family. The class system is going out of fashion except among the rich for whom it gives a distinct advantage in power and affluence, not to mention those, mainly older people , who have been indoctrinated while young.
The religious ritual that involves consuming the body and blood of Christ has uncomfortable associations with human sacrifice, as does the Atonement of the Crucifixion. I love the man Jesus and his courage,love, and sacrifice for others, and I confess I don't quite understand what the rituals of Easter and Holy Communion are supposed to be about, if not human sacrifice.I keep hoping to learn more.
Christmas rituals, with their emphasis on enjoyment and even pleasant misrule, are generally pleasant with their ritual eating and drinking in company with other family members. and friends. However this too has the bad sad effect of excluding the many individuals who don't have family, friends, or who are homeless and excluded from so much else.
Personal rituals are sometimes based in pseudo magic and superstition. Some church rituals are done with that attitude, in order to force God, the gods, or fate to be nice.
The Scottish ritual of Hogmanay (New Year's Eve) is one of the best .
Don't misunder_stand me.
I've had faith in Christ all my life.
If GOD hadn't forced me into hell where I felt its wrath to the point that I would prefer to be crucified (so some many times) I would not care much for the DIVINE comprehension to this 'being' indeed, this REAL_IT Y?
It's only because of the amount of suffering that GOD made me endure ultimately - where I needed FAITH in Christ (rather recently and when simply doing some house renovations - the final TEST) that I believe GOD to be DIVINE and NOT a mere AI & simulation.
..strange Belinda, all those books you read, & IC, matter very little to comprehension of IT.
Christ is an iconic figure: Jesus of Nazareth is a historical person.
I don't know what you mean by IT and REAL_IT Y.
Since 1997 where this entity GOD started manipulating my perception of reality, I comprehended that ALL of my perceivable reality was at the behest of this entity. Therefore, I don't term GOD as "he" I term it, as IT. A thing a being - the GOD that is affecting me, is not in the form of a man.
Thus, I consider GOD as pantheistic to all reality. Then, getting to the REAL IT Y?
GOD is akin to REAL Information Technology Y?
IT?
From what I have experienced of GOD, where ALL reality is akin to a computer game, a matrix, a virtual world...Did we evolve into an intelligent system that we humans created? REAL IT Y? <-- an IT intelligent system?
So much of what I have experienced leans itself towards that...a mere system of binary computer digital reality.
But no. I am a Christian.
* however, where you state "Such religion as I have is intellectual not faith."
I have "Intellect coupled with Faith."
The books I tend to read are not philosophy nor fiction, when I read a book it is as best to effort, factual and scientific.
I attempt to read other stuff, theological, fictional but get bored too easily.
What I have noticed about myself, since knowing GOD to exist is that I have very little patience for people talking about "weird experiences" and spiritual waffle.. I find it rather, indeed, extremely shallow in comparison. GOD IS LIKE A COMPUTER ---> PRECISELY ACURATE - not spiritually waffly!!
I know you think I have some disdain for intellectuals, no I don't. I know I have lacked the education in some areas I would have liked and to a degree I feel a little jealous that others have had such opportunity. Personally, I have guided my intellect in directions that I feel are important, and in parallel to my comprehension of GOD.
The thing I really don't like is where people of much KNOWLEDGE - that is, well read individuals that think their quoting Boris the Badger said "zz" etc..as if it amounts to anything.
Knowledge is merely a store of information - sure, analysed and stored - but how good was the analysis?
I've got ALL the store of ALL the books you and anyone on this forum have read at my fingertips - NOW!
Certainly, I have INTELLECT that you speak of often. I am certain I can analyse information as and when required - probably better than MOST on this forum... (to be honest, I think many of you people that consider yourselves "intellectuals" find this a little disconcerting)
atto bla bla ing - need to play some Behemoth!! --->>
People that think that those that haven't had the level of education haven't something worthwhile of an ear, when actually, they have a life experience and perhaps are INTELLECTUAL, are actually intelligent, and given the same knowledge that some others of more fortunate circumstance, would apply that INTELLECT to have a far better analysis of such a knowledge base to provide a better result. I'm waffling, indeed a 6 pack n chardonnay, 1150pm and it's time for VR.
