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What We're Up Against

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Just thought people here might like to see what we are up against, in terms of AI bots registering, and making convincing looking first posts in order to be approved so that they can post spam links.

This new thread was started in the Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics forum area:
Hi everyone,

I’m currently delving into the philosophy of mathematics and am particularly interested in the intersection between logic and mathematical theory. Could someone explain how different logical systems influence philosophical views on mathematics? Specifically, how do logical frameworks like classical logic, intuitionistic logic, or modal logic affect our understanding of mathematical truth and the nature of mathematical objects?
slice masters
Any insights or resources would be greatly appreciated. Looking forward to the discussion!

Best regards,
And then in tiny white writing against the pale background near the foot of the post was a spam link. We're seeing a lot of initial posts like that now - vaguely convincing posting, with a tiny white link embedded somewhere in the text, easy to overlook. In one case, the link was a single full stop ("period"). But it was clickable and would show up as a link to search engines.

Given the quality of the machine-generated text, sifting out the bots is becoming a harder and harder task.
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Is there any way to remove BB code tags other than quote from new members for X days?

I reckon jasonlava is a more difficult spot. He got through for a start.
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Perhaps removing the 'introduce yourself' thread would help. That seems to attract them. They write their introduction and are never seen again.

And then there's 'Age'. Surely that must be a bot. It even constantly refers to itself as not human.
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RickLewis wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2024 4:09 pm Given the quality of the machine-generated text, sifting out the bots is becoming a harder and harder task.
Can you fight fire with fire and send all first posts through an AI, with the order to look for such things.
I was quite suprised to find that I could use Chatgpt, in its 4 version which one can use free for periods each day, to search through PN posts by poster and it searches better than the search in PN. You can, for example, ask it to search for specific topics that a poster might have mentioned, but it doesn't have to be specific words. I don't know if they can dive into PN and find hyperlinks, but perhaps some AI out there can. In teaching, we are using AIs to fight AI cheating. Not that it's perfect, at all.
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I object. Bots are an indispensable asset to advertisers and freemarket capitalists for generating wealth. If u don't like it, move to cuba.

I'd much rather be spammed by commercials and adverts on every single media platform and app i use all day long every day for the rest of my natural born life.

And the philobots that register here and give me a highschool grade intro synopsis of western philosophy every time i click on their posts are very edifying for me, thank u very much.

Now i have to go. My favorite jacuzzi bath remodel commercial just came on the TV again.
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accelafine wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2024 8:08 pm

And then there's 'Age'. Surely that must be a bot. It even constantly refers to itself as not human.
And there you go again. You just can’t stop talking about Age.

You asked Age to leave you alone. So maybe you ought to extend the common courtesy to yourself.

It’s almost impossible now by the looks, you simply can’t do it, even if you’re life depended on it.
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Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:27 am
accelafine wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2024 8:08 pm

And then there's 'Age'. Surely that must be a bot. It even constantly refers to itself as not human.
And there you go again. You just can’t stop talking about Age.

You asked Age to leave you alone. So maybe you ought to extend the common courtesy to yourself.

It’s almost impossible now by the looks, you simply can’t do it, even if you’re life depended on it.
Fuck off. That's hardly the same as engaging with it. I genuinely think it's a bot or at least trying to make us think that. And learn how to use an apostrophe you ridiculous handmaiden!
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accelafine wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:34 am
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:27 am
accelafine wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2024 8:08 pm

And then there's 'Age'. Surely that must be a bot. It even constantly refers to itself as not human.
And there you go again. You just can’t stop talking about Age.

You asked Age to leave you alone. So maybe you ought to extend the common courtesy to yourself.

It’s almost impossible now by the looks, you simply can’t do it, even if you’re life depended on it.
Fuck off. That's hardly the same as engaging with it. I genuinely think it's a bot or at least trying to make us think that. And learn how to use an apostrophe you ridiculous handmaiden!
LOL

Do you speak to your mother with that forked tongue ?

Handmaiden …. Hmm, 😂 you are talking to a monk, not a handmaiden. Seriously get your crooked fictions straight for once in your life.
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Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:54 am
accelafine wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:34 am
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:27 am
And there you go again. You just can’t stop talking about Age.

You asked Age to leave you alone. So maybe you ought to extend the common courtesy to yourself.

It’s almost impossible now by the looks, you simply can’t do it, even if you’re life depended on it.
Fuck off. That's hardly the same as engaging with it. I genuinely think it's a bot or at least trying to make us think that. And learn how to use an apostrophe you ridiculous handmaiden!
LOL

Do you speak to your mother with that forked tongue ?

Handmaiden …. Hmm, 😂 you are talking to a monk, not a handmaiden. Seriously get your crooked fictions straight for once in your life.
I don't really care what you are, except that your 'dizzy bird' rountine doesn't work with me. You should mind your own beeswax. I wasn't addressing you when you decided to come on like a mother tiger protecting its young ffs.
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accelafine wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 8:19 am
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:54 am
accelafine wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:34 am

Fuck off. That's hardly the same as engaging with it. I genuinely think it's a bot or at least trying to make us think that. And learn how to use an apostrophe you ridiculous handmaiden!
LOL

Do you speak to your mother with that forked tongue ?

Handmaiden …. Hmm, 😂 you are talking to a monk, not a handmaiden. Seriously get your crooked fictions straight for once in your life.
I don't really care what you are, except that your 'dizzy bird' rountine doesn't work with me. You should mind your own beeswax. I wasn't addressing you when you decided to come on like a mother tiger protecting its young ffs.
How very judgemental of you.

You might not have been addressing the monk with the key, but it's obvious you cannot leave Age alone, even after you've asked Age to leave you alone. Seems you just can't stop thinking about the poor thing, as if you can't be alone with yourself anymore. This is a forum, where any one can respond to who ever they like, when they like, about whatever they like, because, well, they like to do the likey likey stuff. 8)

I love isolation, but every now and again, I step out into the realm of fairytales and witches. :lol:
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Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 8:28 am
accelafine wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 8:19 am
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:54 am
LOL

Do you speak to your mother with that forked tongue ?

Handmaiden …. Hmm, 😂 you are talking to a monk, not a handmaiden. Seriously get your crooked fictions straight for once in your life.
I don't really care what you are, except that your 'dizzy bird' rountine doesn't work with me. You should mind your own beeswax. I wasn't addressing you when you decided to come on like a mother tiger protecting its young ffs.
How very judgemental of you.

You might not have been addressing the monk with the key, but it's obvious you cannot leave Age alone, even after you've asked Age to leave you alone. Seems you just can't stop thinking about the poor thing, as if you can't be alone with yourself anymore. This is a forum, where any one can respond to who ever they like, when they like, about whatever they like, because, well, they like to do the likey likey stuff. 8)

I love isolation, but every now and again, I step out into the realm of fairytales and witches. :lol:
I didn't address him and he will get no notification so mind your own fucking business. The point is that I've asked him repeatedly to not address me in such a way that I get a notification. He/it can talk about me all he likes. He's on ignore so it's hidden from me anyway.
What on earth does it have to do with you? Spoiling for a fight are you?
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Bad news... The chatbots are winning the war guys.

Here's Godelian falling for it with stry1965
viewtopic.php?p=737548#p737548

And of course VA, with the one that does the two sentence summaries
viewtopic.php?t=42678&sid=7955f661b043c ... 5e54fcaf75

Speaking of which, I see Jesse99, and Olivia101, but I didn't see who was 100. Was there a Kevin100 that I missed?
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:42 am Bad news... The chatbots are winning the war guys.

Here's Godelian falling for it with stry1965
viewtopic.php?p=737548#p737548

And of course VA, with the one that does the two sentence summaries
viewtopic.php?t=42678&sid=7955f661b043c ... 5e54fcaf75

Speaking of which, I see Jesse99, and Olivia101, but I didn't see who was 100. Was there a Kevin100 that I missed?
So how are the chatbots winning?

Are they out logiking people and their misconceptions of 'philosophy'?

btw. Wasn't Alan100 and now he's Alan1000 or maybe that's just a glitch in my POV of the reality.
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attofishpi wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 1:34 pm So how are the chatbots winning?
I refer you to Rick's OP at the top of the page and invite you to do your weird nonsense at somebody else.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:17 pm
attofishpi wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 1:34 pm So how are the chatbots winning?
I refer you to Rick's OP at the top of the page and invite you to do your weird nonsense at somebody else.
Are u sure?

Most people love a bit of atto lovin'

Next you'll be telling me bisexuality is a fascist sin 8)
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