Says you. Are you suggesting that chaos means there is nothing in existence?bahman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 3:58 pmIf there is no causality then there cannot be any change therefore you cannot have order from disorder.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 3:09 amA place of no logic, no causality that eventually via random chance formed into matter and energy and order.
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No. You just mentioned that the state of chaos is a state that which there is no logic or causality... I then argue that without causality there would be no change so you cannot have order from disorder.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:29 pmSays you. Are you suggesting that chaos means there is nothing in existence?bahman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 3:58 pmIf there is no causality then there cannot be any change therefore you cannot have order from disorder.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 3:09 am
A place of no logic, no causality that eventually via random chance formed into matter and energy and order.
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You are attempting to apply logic to chaos. Change can exist within chaos in fact it is all that chaos manifests. Y can't things manifest into matter and energy through pure chance & change?bahman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:35 pmNo. You just mentioned that the state of chaos is a state that which there is no logic or causality... I then argue that without causality there would be no change so you cannot have order from disorder.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:29 pmSays you. Are you suggesting that chaos means there is nothing in existence?
Re: What if all troubles are works of Satan?
That was you who claimed that there is no causality in chaos so there cannot be any change. Moreover, change is not possible without the mind.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:51 pmYou are attempting to apply logic to chaos. Change can exist within chaos in fact it is all that chaos manifests. Y can't things manifest into matter and energy through pure chance & change?bahman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:35 pmNo. You just mentioned that the state of chaos is a state that which there is no logic or causality... I then argue that without causality there would be no change so you cannot have order from disorder.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:29 pm
Says you. Are you suggesting that chaos means there is nothing in existence?
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FFS. Change does not require causality within chaos.bahman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:54 pmThat was you who claimed that there is no causality in chaos so there cannot be any change. Moreover, change is not possible without the mind.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:51 pmYou are attempting to apply logic to chaos. Change can exist within chaos in fact it is all that chaos manifests. Y can't things manifest into matter and energy through pure chance & change?
Re: What if all troubles are works of Satan?
No. You don't know what you are talking about. Could you define change and causality?attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:56 pmFFS. Change does not require causality within chaos.bahman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:54 pmThat was you who claimed that there is no causality in chaos so there cannot be any change. Moreover, change is not possible without the mind.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:51 pm
You are attempting to apply logic to chaos. Change can exist within chaos in fact it is all that chaos manifests. Y can't things manifest into matter and energy through pure chance & change?
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Of course I don't know what I am fucking talking about - I am talking about CHAOS.bahman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:12 pmNo. You don't know what you are talking about. Could you define change and causality?
How does one define anything within chaos - a place where logic and definition has no place?
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How do you define change and causality?attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:15 pmOf course I don't know what I am fucking talking about - I am talking about CHAOS.
How does one define anything within chaos - a place where logic and definition has no place?
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Change is the speed of light and energy - hanging in the balance:-bahman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:18 pmHow do you define change and causality?attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:15 pmOf course I don't know what I am fucking talking about - I am talking about CHAOS.
How does one define anything within chaos - a place where logic and definition has no place?
C:
C_hang_E
E:
..causality results from some imbalance.
Re: What if all troubles are works of Satan?
Change is not the speed of light and energy hanging in the balance! Could you please be coherent and define the change and causality?attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:23 pmChange is the speed of light and energy - hanging in the balance:-bahman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:18 pmHow do you define change and causality?attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:15 pm
Of course I don't know what I am fucking talking about - I am talking about CHAOS.
How does one define anything within chaos - a place where logic and definition has no place?
C:
C_hang_E
E:
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..causality results from some imbalance.
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What part of there is NO causality within chaos are you not understanding?bahman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:27 pmChange is not the speed of light and energy hanging in the balance! Could you please be coherent and define the change and causality?attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:23 pmChange is the speed of light and energy - hanging in the balance:-
C:
C_hang_E
E:
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..causality results from some imbalance.
Re: What if all troubles are works of Satan?
I ask for definitions. You break the word change into pieces and claim that that is a definition for change. What if "C" stands for coffee!?attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:35 pmWhat part of there is NO causality within chaos are you not understanding?bahman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:27 pmChange is not the speed of light and energy hanging in the balance! Could you please be coherent and define the change and causality?attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:23 pm
Change is the speed of light and energy - hanging in the balance:-
C:
C_hang_E
E:
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..causality results from some imbalance.
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NO. C means the speed of light FSS - did U actually think I meant "causality"?bahman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:55 pmI ask for definitions. You break the word change into pieces and claim that that is a definition for change. What if "C" stands for coffee!?attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:35 pmWhat part of there is NO causality within chaos are you not understanding?
I stated:
Change is the speed of light and energy - hanging in the balance:-
C_hang_E
U were meant to infer:
LIGHT_hang_ENERGY
The balance that hangs between the two
Re: What if all troubles are works of Satan?
Yes, never mind!attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:01 pmNO. C means the speed of light FSS - did U actually think I meant "causality"?bahman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:55 pmI ask for definitions. You break the word change into pieces and claim that that is a definition for change. What if "C" stands for coffee!?attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:35 pm
What part of there is NO causality within chaos are you not understanding?
I stated:
Change is the speed of light and energy - hanging in the balance:-
C_hang_E
U were meant to infer:
LIGHT_hang_ENERGY
The balance that hangs between the two..Nevermind.