The End of My Usefulness

[Fairy]

I mean that nobody else lives for 2,000 years, obviously. If there's no God, there's no single "author of the Bible" at all. Either way, your conjecture was obviously not possible.

So it’s possible only because it’s possible.

No, your question about whether there's a singular "author" for the Bible fails to include the sheer span of time and the variety of circumstances over which the Bible was composed. In other words, it's not a reasonable conjecture.

That's all I've said.

Well thank you for taking the time to say that, but in all honesty, I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

[Immanuel Can]

So it’s possible only because it’s possible.

No, your question about whether there's a singular "author" for the Bible fails to include the sheer span of time and the variety of circumstances over which the Bible was composed. In other words, it's not a reasonable conjecture.

That's all I've said.

Well thank you for taking the time to say that, but in all honesty, I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

I see. Well, be well.

[Gary Childress]

Are people "supposed to be useful" for some other purpose, Gary? Who sets that purpose?

I don't know if we are or not. For all I know, maybe we're little more than cattle grazing in the world with no purpose at all--just living off the planet for a short while until we die or something else eats us. Or maybe we're here to do something wonderful that God wants us to do.

If it's the latter case, then I don't know how I fit into the plan. As far as I'm aware, I ultimately just turn finite resources into waste products. Oil isn't going to last forever, unless of course our environment kills us first from fossil fuel created climate disaster. In either case the world would be better off with one less person (namely me) in it.

[Immanuel Can]

Are people "supposed to be useful" for some other purpose, Gary? Who sets that purpose?

I don't know if we are or not.

Well, then, there's no sense to your complaint. If you're not supposed to be "useful" for anything, how disappointed can you be if you aren't "useful"?

Or maybe we're here to do something wonderful that God wants us to do. If it's the latter case, then I don't know how I fit into the plan.

Maybe you should ask Him. Just saying.

[Flannel Jesus]

Or maybe we're here to do something wonderful that God wants us to do. If it's the latter case, then I don't know how I fit into the plan.

Maybe you should ask Him. Just saying.

Yes Gary, please ask and report back with the response. I'm curious to know too.

[Gary Childress]

Are people "supposed to be useful" for some other purpose, Gary? Who sets that purpose?

I don't know if we are or not.

Well, then, there's no sense to your complaint.

I'm not an atheist. I'm agnostic. And to be more specific, I have degrees of agnosticism that border on Atheism. So for example, I'm more or less an atheist when it comes to Zeus. But I'm more agnostic when it comes to the Biblical god. The Bible is a wonderful book for humans but I think there will come a time when all life becomes precious and not just to us, to EACH OTHER. And when I die, I'd like to be returned to the biosphere where my body can decompose naturally, albeit in a bio degradable wooden box in the ground. I'm against pickling humans and putting us in caskets. It's disgusting. And it's immoral to the organisms that need biological food and therefore feed on our corpses.

[Gary Childress]

Or maybe we're here to do something wonderful that God wants us to do. If it's the latter case, then I don't know how I fit into the plan.

Maybe you should ask Him. Just saying.

Yes Gary, please ask and report back with the response. I'm curious to know too.

Well, I just woke up from a very lucid dream and I think it was a message or else a portent from God that I should have that dream. I can't remember particulars now but I think the point of the dream is that all living beings will someday be unified in existence. It may not happen any time soon. But I think it will happen. I think all living beings are conscious. Heck, maybe matter itself is conscious or else possesses what it is to be conscious, even if it has no sense organs to give it any kind of experience or information.

That was the theme of the dream I just woke up from. Maybe I'm crazy or maybe I'm not. I don't know. I'm agnostic about that as well.

But I don't want to live in a world of cruelty and destruction. Granted, I do live in such a world. But I hope someday it will be a thing of the past, probably not in my lifetime.

Maybe there's a God, maybe there isn't. Maybe I'll find out when I die. Or maybe I won't. But I may find out if the visions of my dream are true and if all matter is conscious.

[Flannel Jesus]

Or maybe we're here to do something wonderful that God wants us to do. If it's the latter case, then I don't know how I fit into the plan.

Maybe you should ask Him. Just saying.

Yes Gary, please ask and report back with the response. I'm curious to know too.

Well, I just woke up from a very lucid dream and I think it was a message or else a portent from God that I should have that dream. I can't remember particulars now but I think the point of the dream is that all living beings will someday be unified in existence. It may not happen any time soon. But I think it will happen. I think all living beings are conscious. Heck, maybe matter itself is conscious or else possesses what it is to be conscious, even if it has no sense organs to give it any kind of experience or information.

That was the theme of the dream I just woke up from. Maybe I'm crazy or maybe I'm not. I don't know. I'm agnostic about that as well.

But I don't want to live in a world of cruelty and destruction. Granted, I do live in such a world. But I hope someday it will be a thing of the past, probably not in my lifetime.

Maybe there's a God, maybe there isn't. Maybe I'll find out when I die. Or maybe I won't. But I may find out if the visions of my dream are true and if all matter is conscious.

So if that dream is from god, does it answer how you fit into the plan?

[Immanuel Can]

I don't know if we are or not.

Well, then, there's no sense to your complaint.

I'm not an atheist. I'm agnostic.

Okay...then you're saying you don't know what/if you should be useful. So again, there's no sense to the complaint that you're feeling "useless." Mayve you shouldn't be "useful" at all.

After all, "use" has to be TO something...some project, goal, undertaking, purpose...Unless you know what that purpose is, you're in no position to judge whether you're being "useful to it" or not.

Maybe you need to decide what the purpose of life is. Then you can say whether, so far, you've been being "useful" to it, or not.

[Gary Childress]

Yes Gary, please ask and report back with the response. I'm curious to know too.

Well, I just woke up from a very lucid dream and I think it was a message or else a portent from God that I should have that dream. I can't remember particulars now but I think the point of the dream is that all living beings will someday be unified in existence. It may not happen any time soon. But I think it will happen. I think all living beings are conscious. Heck, maybe matter itself is conscious or else possesses what it is to be conscious, even if it has no sense organs to give it any kind of experience or information.

That was the theme of the dream I just woke up from. Maybe I'm crazy or maybe I'm not. I don't know. I'm agnostic about that as well.

But I don't want to live in a world of cruelty and destruction. Granted, I do live in such a world. But I hope someday it will be a thing of the past, probably not in my lifetime.

Maybe there's a God, maybe there isn't. Maybe I'll find out when I die. Or maybe I won't. But I may find out if the visions of my dream are true and if all matter is conscious.

So if that dream is from god, does it answer how you fit into the plan?

I don't know.
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[Gary Childress]

Well, then, there's no sense to your complaint.

I'm not an atheist. I'm agnostic.

Okay...then you're saying you don't know what/if you should be useful. So again, there's no sense to the complaint that you're feeling "useless." Mayve you shouldn't be "useful" at all.

After all, "use" has to be TO something...some project, goal, undertaking, purpose...Unless you know what that purpose is, you're in no position to judge whether you're being "useful to it" or not.

Maybe you need to decide what the purpose of life is. Then you can say whether, so far, you've been being "useful" to it, or not.

I don't know. As I say, I'm agnostic with regard to "spiritual" stuff.

[Immanuel Can]

I'm not an atheist. I'm agnostic.

Okay...then you're saying you don't know what/if you should be useful. So again, there's no sense to the complaint that you're feeling "useless." Mayve you shouldn't be "useful" at all.

After all, "use" has to be TO something...some project, goal, undertaking, purpose...Unless you know what that purpose is, you're in no position to judge whether you're being "useful to it" or not.

Maybe you need to decide what the purpose of life is. Then you can say whether, so far, you've been being "useful" to it, or not.

I don't know. As I say, I'm agnostic with regard to "spiritual" stuff.

Then you don't know that you're "useless." Maybe you're accidentally "useful" to something. Maybe you're not, but you're not supposed to be "useful" to anything. You don't even know whether or not there's a "use" you should be having.

So why complain?

It makes no sense, Gary.

[Gary Childress]

So why complain?

Because I've got stuff to complain about. Is there a reason not to complain that I don't know about?

[Immanuel Can]

So why complain?

Because I've got stuff to complain about. Is there a reason not to complain that I don't know about?

Apparently, "not being useful" isn't one of them. You don't even know what "useful" would look like, or to what it would directed, by your own account.

[Gary Childress]

So why complain?

Because I've got stuff to complain about. Is there a reason not to complain that I don't know about?

Apparently, "not being useful" isn't one of them. You don't even know what "useful" would look like, or to what it would directed, by your own account.

Because there's nothing useful for me to do doesn't mean I can't complain that there's nothing useful for me to do. God you are irritating.