Islam is Judaism for non-Jews ("Gentiles")

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attofishpi wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:18 pm Why do you believe the divine being GOD would want humans to slaughter each other and demand to be worshipped?

Does that not sound more like the ego of a warlord to you?
Moses fought wars. Muhammad fought wars. They were the sovereign leaders of their nation. You will just have to accept that nations fight wars, whether you like it or not.

Christ, on the other hand, did not fight wars because he was not a sovereign leader. He was under strict control of the Roman empire. In the end, it was the Roman governor who decided whether he would live or die.

You are comparing apples to oranges.

There is always someone who will be the sovereign rulrer of the nation and will have to send out the army when needed.

The fact that Christ could not do that, leads to all kinds of delusional claims about what decisions a sovereign ruler should make. It is just Christian Lalaland all over again.

If Christ had been the sovereign leader of his nation, he would also have had to authorize military action, or else be deposed and replaced by a leader more willing to do the job.
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godelian wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:44 am You are comparing apples to oranges.
I am comparing Divinity to man's\warlord's bullshit.

godelian wrote:There is always someone who will be the sovereign rulrer of the nation and will have to send out the army when needed.
Where does an omnipotent Divine being require an army?

godelian wrote:The fact that Christ could not do that, leads to all kinds of delusional claims about what decisions a sovereign ruler should make. It is just Christian Lalaland all over again.
For someone that has proven to be analytically minded you are proving yourself rather daft right now.

Christ didn't need a nation. The divine being came, showed the power of God and left insistiing upon FAITH.

Think about it. GOD could prove to the entire world of "His" power, that GOD indeed exists. Y doesn't\didn't "He"?
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godelian wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:29 pm
Age wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 5:42 am Look "godeiian" 'spirituality' is not beyond 'rationality' at all
I don't try to rationally justify why I believe in God.
And, this is because you do not yet know who nor what the God word is referring to, exactly?

Nor do you know with any certainty how God, Itself, works, exactly.

Obviously, when, and if, you come to find out for sure who and what God is, exactly, also, then you too will also know why you believe in God.
godelian wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:29 pm I just do.
Okay. But, lots of you adult human beings also believe in things, for reasons that you do not yet know why.
godelian wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:29 pm I have also never felt the need to rationally justify that.
I can switch to spirituality at a moment's notice.
Again, because you do not yet know how to.
godelian wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:29 pm I just can't do it while I am typing on the keyboard.
Okay.
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attofishpi wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:18 pm
godelian wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:29 pm I don't try to rationally justify why I believe in God. I just do.
I have also never felt the need to rationally justify that.
I can switch to spirituality at a moment's notice.
I just can't do it while I am typing on the keyboard.
Why do you believe the divine being GOD would want humans to slaughter each other and demand to be worshipped?

Does that not sound more like the ego of a warlord to you?
Why do you ask such things, especially so when there is not a theology ever written, which prescribes doing those things?
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attofishpi wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:57 am
godelian wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:44 am You are comparing apples to oranges.
I am comparing Divinity to man's\warlord's bullshit.

godelian wrote:There is always someone who will be the sovereign rulrer of the nation and will have to send out the army when needed.
Where does an omnipotent Divine being require an army?

godelian wrote:The fact that Christ could not do that, leads to all kinds of delusional claims about what decisions a sovereign ruler should make. It is just Christian Lalaland all over again.
For someone that has proven to be analytically minded you are proving yourself rather daft right now.

Christ didn't need a nation.
Correct me.if I am Wrong here "godelian', but "godelian'" never even suggested, let alone said nor wrote, absolutely anywhere here that 'christ needed a nation'.

you do not seem to be following and understanding what "godelian' is actually meaning and pointing out here.

But, again, this is mostly just because of your False and Wrong pre-existing beliefs, presumptions, and misinterpretations, which you have and are holding onto here.
attofishpi wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:57 am The divine being came, showed the power of God and left insistiing upon FAITH.

Think about it. GOD could prove to the entire world of "His" power, that GOD indeed exists. Y doesn't\didn't "He"?
LOL God IS. In the days when this is being written, however, you adult human beings are just not, yet, seeing, and hearing, 'the actual proof'.
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Go away fool.
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