Fairy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:01 pmI take it the bible was actually written by an author, right?
40 people, thereabouts, wrote the books of the Bible over a long haul of about 1,500 years.
No shit really, you mean those books within a book hold the power to inform someone they are a Christian?
I believe if that Bible said there are little pink and yellow striped mice living in burrows on the unseen dark side of the moon, that come out after 10 o’clock at night and communicate with you the secrets of the other side of the moon. Then I guess it would have to be true. All I would have to do is believe in their existence. Because the Bible says their existence is actually real, and so who in their right mind would resist the temptation to not believe that.
Aside from that nonsense, what is written is past tense, it’s dead stuff, and never the reality of what is actually real.
Fairy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:51 pm
Where did the author of the Bible get the idea there is a 'you' who is a Christian?
I don't even understand the question, I must confess. I guess you can either explain it, or...well, whatever.
Don't you understand what an 'Author' is? The author who wrote the words of the book titled the bible?
I'm asking where did the author of the bible book, get it's ideas from, particularly the idea where it says.... you are a Christian?
I take it the bible was actually written by an author, right?
Ah, I see. You don't know what the Bible is?
It's not just "a book." What it actually is, is an expansive library of 66 books. These were composed and compiled over a period of roughly two-thousand years, by 40 authors, on three continents, in three different ancient languages, which we can see from the about 25,000 ancient manuscripts we have that support the current text.
The only single Author over the entire collection, even potentially, is God Himself.
But you can find all that out with even a basic search on the topic.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:12 pm
The only single Author over the entire collection, even potentially, is God Himself.
What do you mean by that, do you mean....God is the author of his own Autobiography?
Is the Bible God's own personal account of his life as he consciously lived and directly experienced that life?
Did God want to leave guidance and instructions to his children, so that they could become aware of their father's ways. Was the purpose of this autobiography some kind of invitation for God's own creations, to become more aware that there is a higher intelligence at work within their life, and that it is always available and guiding them every step of the way in everything they do. Was there a deliberate intention by God to guide his children throughout the entire journey of their lives, so that they would always have some kind of role model to apply to their own lives, so that they wouldn't falter?
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:12 pm
The only single Author over the entire collection, even potentially, is God Himself.
What do you mean by that
I mean that nobody else lives for 2,000 years, obviously. If there's no God, there's no single "author of the Bible" at all. Either way, your conjecture was obviously not possible.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 5:09 pm
I mean that nobody else lives for 2,000 years, obviously. If there's no God, there's no single "author of the Bible" at all. Either way, your conjecture was obviously not possible.
So it’s possible only because it’s possible. And the bible being the living proof.
But why stop at 2,000 years? Why not just say nobody else lives forever, or for infinite time.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 5:09 pm
I mean that nobody else lives for 2,000 years, obviously. If there's no God, there's no single "author of the Bible" at all. Either way, your conjecture was obviously not possible.
So it’s possible only because it’s possible.
No, your question about whether there's a singular "author" for the Bible fails to include the sheer span of time and the variety of circumstances over which the Bible was composed. In other words, it's not a reasonable conjecture.
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 1:57 pm
I've outlived my usefulness.
Horseshit.
You wanna be useful?
Get a black garbage bag, the heavy duty kinda, and go clean litter off your street.
When in public, hold the door for the old, the young, hell, for anyone.
Say thank you to the check out person, even if she's a drone.
Smile.
Do a kindness -- nuthin' extravagant or costly -- without expectation of compensation.
Bring doughnuts to work, for the crew, just because you can.
You can be useful, everyday, if you wanna be.
I'm a sociopath. I've spent most of my life (starting with elementary school) about as isolated as a person can be. Everything I touch turns to shit. I don't want to touch anything anymore.
For what it's worth, sociopaths aren't generally upset about being sociopaths. You're not one.
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 1:57 pm
I've outlived my usefulness. These days, all I'm able to do is turn resources into waste products. Or start arguments.
You are so thoughtful and intelligent to realize this! You know we cannot change life since we cannot change people so people including me are a waste of time and resources!
really, you mean those books within a book hold the power to inform someone they are a Christian?
