Where is the LEFT taking us...1984

[promethean75]

No politician, leader, president, dictator, king, or emperor living today wants to give wage and salary earners any control or say over anything but their own labor.

A country may look like a social democracy but its really just a state welfare capitalism/corporatism wherein a few extremely wealthy people own sectors of economy and cooperate with the government's demands in exchange for being given the right to own the property, factory, company, business, etc. The government essentially exhorts money from the corporations it allows to operate and then gives it back to the chinese and russian people by building them cool shopping malls and giving them free or very reasonable healthcare and stuff. But this is not socialism.

[Dubious]

I wish you would stop trying to stir up trouble in a country you don't even live in, fishy. Have you nothing better to do?

Such a passionate man. It's astonishing to think that you are all alone. What woman wouldn't want such a passionate beast of a man?

You'll love the new British Foreign Secretary!!

Britain is a JOKE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAd3XhGrvuk

Indeed! They have produced some of the best comedies, some of which even lampoon themselves! Blacks have the bad habit of thinking they were the only enslaved people. History begs to differ!

[attofishpi]

Such a passionate man. It's astonishing to think that you are all alone. What woman wouldn't want such a passionate beast of a man?

You'll love the new British Foreign Secretary!!

Britain is a JOKE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAd3XhGrvuk

Indeed! They have produced some of the best comedies, some of which even lampoon themselves! Blacks have the bad habit of thinking they were the only enslaved people. History begs to differ!

Yes well said. Zia Yousef a Muslim that made a huge donation to Reform UK and was given a platform to speak at a Birmingham Reform event made that point and also that Britain enforced a ban on slave trade - many British Navy personnel apparently died facing off with the other European nations that chose to continue with the barbaric trade. I intend to do some research on that..eventually, some time. ...

[accelafine]

Define 'the left'. Didn't think so. You should be ashamed of yourself, parroting illiterate, uneducated, shallow, moronic Americans and their simplistic political labels.

[attofishpi]

Define 'the left'. Didn't think so. You should be ashamed of yourself, parroting illiterate, uneducated, shallow, moronic Americans and their simplistic political labels.

I don't consider it in much of a binary way, but I got better things to do...what the AI says sums it up. My concern is the bullshit "progressive liberal" trope that the LEFT attempts to pitch when in fact there are moves afoot to restrict freedom of speech with hate laws, in particular Queer Starmer clearly wants to implement "islamaphobia" laws, thus blasphemy laws are on the way in UK.

- Just in case anyone missed this video, the bloke Starmer is talking to is the Islamic scumbag Sadiq Khan - Mayor of London - Starmer clearly sucking up still to get the Muslim vote by suggesting in a disguised way that blasphemy laws are on the way to protect the special religion of Islam..

Again..Christopher Hitchens warning us ..V..Starmer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc4K1pFH-8s


Economic Views

Left-Wing:
Generally advocate for more government intervention in the economy.
Support welfare programs and social safety nets.
Favor higher taxes on the wealthy to redistribute income.
Emphasize economic equality and social justice.

Right-Wing:
Prefer limited government intervention in the economy.
Advocate for free-market policies and deregulation.
Support lower taxes to stimulate economic growth.
Emphasize individual responsibility and economic freedom.

Social Issues

Left-Wing:
Tend to support progressive social policies.
Advocate for the protection of minority rights and civil liberties.
Support gender equality, LGBTQ+ rights, and affirmative action.
Emphasize environmental protection and climate change action.

Right-Wing:
Often hold more conservative social views.
May prioritize traditional family values and cultural norms.
Sometimes oppose affirmative action and other policies they see as reverse discrimination.
Skeptical of extensive environmental regulations, often prioritizing economic growth over environmental concerns.

Role of Government

Left-Wing:
Favor a larger, more active government that provides public services and regulates industries.
Support universal healthcare, public education, and other social services.
Believe in the government's role in addressing social inequalities.

Right-Wing:
Advocate for a smaller, less intrusive government.
Prefer privatization of services and individual choice in healthcare and education.
Emphasize personal freedom and limited government involvement in daily life.

Law and Order

Left-Wing:
Often focus on the root causes of crime, such as poverty and lack of education.
Advocate for criminal justice reform and rehabilitation programs.
Support measures to address systemic biases in law enforcement.

Right-Wing:
Emphasize a strong law and order approach.
Advocate for tougher penalties for crimes and a robust police presence.
Prioritize public safety and support for law enforcement agencies.

Global Perspective

Left-Wing:
Tend to support international cooperation and multilateral organizations.
Advocate for human rights and humanitarian aid globally.
Support progressive immigration policies.

Right-Wing:
May prioritize national sovereignty and security.
Often skeptical of international institutions and agreements.
Support stricter immigration controls and policies.

These distinctions are generalizations and can vary significantly within different countries and political contexts. Political ideologies are complex and often overlap, with individuals and parties holding a mix of left- and right-wing views on various issues.

[accelafine]

Define 'the left'. Didn't think so. You should be ashamed of yourself, parroting illiterate, uneducated, shallow, moronic Americans and their simplistic political labels.

I don't consider it in much of a binary way, but I got better things to do...what the AI says sums it up. My concern is the bullshit "progressive liberal" trope that the LEFT attempts to pitch when in fact there are moves afoot to restrict freedom of speech with hate laws, in particular Queer Starmer clearly wants to implement "islamaphobia" laws, thus blasphemy laws are on the way in UK.

- Just in case anyone missed this video, the bloke Starmer is talking to is the Islamic scumbag Sadiq Khan - Mayor of London - Starmer clearly sucking up still to get the Muslim vote by suggesting in a disguised way that blasphemy laws are on the way to protect the special religion of Islam..

Again..Christopher Hitchens warning us ..V..Starmer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc4K1pFH-8s


Economic Views

Left-Wing:
Generally advocate for more government intervention in the economy.
Support welfare programs and social safety nets.
Favor higher taxes on the wealthy to redistribute income.
Emphasize economic equality and social justice.

Right-Wing:
Prefer limited government intervention in the economy.
Advocate for free-market policies and deregulation.
Support lower taxes to stimulate economic growth.
Emphasize individual responsibility and economic freedom.

Social Issues

Left-Wing:
Tend to support progressive social policies.
Advocate for the protection of minority rights and civil liberties.
Support gender equality, LGBTQ+ rights, and affirmative action.
Emphasize environmental protection and climate change action.

Right-Wing:
Often hold more conservative social views.
May prioritize traditional family values and cultural norms.
Sometimes oppose affirmative action and other policies they see as reverse discrimination.
Skeptical of extensive environmental regulations, often prioritizing economic growth over environmental concerns.

Role of Government

Left-Wing:
Favor a larger, more active government that provides public services and regulates industries.
Support universal healthcare, public education, and other social services.
Believe in the government's role in addressing social inequalities.

Right-Wing:
Advocate for a smaller, less intrusive government.
Prefer privatization of services and individual choice in healthcare and education.
Emphasize personal freedom and limited government involvement in daily life.

Law and Order

Left-Wing:
Often focus on the root causes of crime, such as poverty and lack of education.
Advocate for criminal justice reform and rehabilitation programs.
Support measures to address systemic biases in law enforcement.

Right-Wing:
Emphasize a strong law and order approach.
Advocate for tougher penalties for crimes and a robust police presence.
Prioritize public safety and support for law enforcement agencies.

Global Perspective

Left-Wing:
Tend to support international cooperation and multilateral organizations.
Advocate for human rights and humanitarian aid globally.
Support progressive immigration policies.

Right-Wing:
May prioritize national sovereignty and security.
Often skeptical of international institutions and agreements.
Support stricter immigration controls and policies.

These distinctions are generalizations and can vary significantly within different countries and political contexts. Political ideologies are complex and often overlap, with individuals and parties holding a mix of left- and right-wing views on various issues.

Nothing there about blue hair and cow nose rings. Why would you need to wikky it anyway? Can't you think for yourself?
Does England completely change whether or not there's a Tory or Labour govt. in power? Of course it doesn't. There are much deeper players in the game of politics.

[attofishpi]

Nothing there about blue hair and cow nose rings. Why would you need to wikky it anyway? Can't you think for yourself?
Does England completely change whether or not there's a Tory or Labour govt. in power? Of course it doesn't. There are much deeper players in the game of politics.

Well, in the good ol' days it apparently did. The Tories are now the LEFTies <--- woops!!

[accelafine]

Nothing there about blue hair and cow nose rings. Why would you need to wikky it anyway? Can't you think for yourself?
Does England completely change whether or not there's a Tory or Labour govt. in power? Of course it doesn't. There are much deeper players in the game of politics.

Well, in the good ol' days it apparently did. The Tories are now the LEFTies <--- woops!!

Of course it did, back when people lived in abject poverty, when there was child labour, public hangings for stealing food when you were starving, if you lost your job or your husband then you died in the workhouse along with your children, when you had to grovel to your 'betters' simply because of an accident of birth...
Society evolves, in case you hadn't noticed, and most of the best ideas to improve people's lives came from the so-called 'left'/enlightenment--call it what you like.
But yeah, it's all fucked up now of course. People have to push and push. They can't help themselves. Without any causes left to fight for (they aren't very bright or brave) they've had to make some up eg. 'transrights'. What are these mystical 'rights' that men in frocks are being denied? What 'human rights' that they have as men do they lose when they don 'womanface'?
I was at the supermarket the other day and the checkout person was a nasty woke man with blue hair, cow nosering (those things are disgusting and make me nauseous), long black-painted nails with some kind of message on them, and a large 'transflag' displayed on his uniform. The only thing missing was his 'preferred pronouns'. Call me old fashioned but I don't go grocery shopping to be bombarded with bullshit political messages by checkout idiots. What happened to having a bit of respect for actual paying customers, or just plain courtesy and professionalism?
I don't give a fuck about his politics and certainly don't need to know. I bet if I had worn a hoodie with 'woman: adult human female' on it I would have been frog-marched out of the store.

[Flannel Jesus]

1984


Illegal and unsafe tweets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtGnhTwW06E&t=192s

This video, with that timestamp, starts in such a confusing and hard to follow place. It's like you don't even want people to know what point you're trying to make.

Some guy got called by a cop to screen his thoughts - no doubt the comparison to 1984 is relevant, I'm with you there - but why is it so unclear from your link what he tweeted and what the fuck this is all about? I feel like every time you link something, it's so opaque what you're trying to say.

Don't just rely on the video in these cases, spell it out. Write out, in your post, a little narrative of what happened.

[attofishpi]

Don't just rely on the video in these cases, spell it out. Write out, in your post, a little narrative of what happened.

Jesus!! You've now told me off twice for doing this in threads!!

WILCO in future - cbf now - I can't remember what the video was about and ain't got time to watch it again.