A Return to the Topic of Consciousness

Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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Re: A Return to the Topic of Consciousness

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Flannel Jesus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:08 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:32 am
Flannel Jesus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:59 am

Your response to that post of mine was this

viewtopic.php?p=717954#p717954

Where instead of providing the argument, you said you already had
Oh, so you are, 'now', not actually interested in the 'actual arguments', themselves, and instead you are just interested in regards to where they were before, right?

If yes, then if I recall correctly, they would also be in this thread, as well, in either page 1 or page 2, or both, of this thread.
I have no idea what you're talking about, and that makes sense because neither do you.
Well considering you did not answer and reply to my clarifying question about what 'it' is that you are talking about here, nor replied and answered other clarifying questions, then it would not surprise me that you have no idea what 'we' have been talking about here.

Look, you wanted 'some arguments' from me. I said I had already provided 'them'. you then wanted to know 'where' 'they' are. I then informed you that the ones that I had already provided here, before I provided further ones, were, also, in this thread, and if I recalled correctly would be on page 1 or page 2 of this thread, and obviously, before, you requested 'some arguments'.

Why were you presuming and believing that I had no idea what I was talking about, here?

If you, still, cannot find 'those ones', then maybe you will respond to the 'actual ones' that you requested me to provide.
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Re: A Return to the Topic of Consciousness

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Age wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:22 pm
Flannel Jesus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:08 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:32 am

Oh, so you are, 'now', not actually interested in the 'actual arguments', themselves, and instead you are just interested in regards to where they were before, right?

If yes, then if I recall correctly, they would also be in this thread, as well, in either page 1 or page 2, or both, of this thread.
I have no idea what you're talking about, and that makes sense because neither do you.
Well considering you did not answer and reply to my clarifying question about what 'it' is that you are talking about here, nor replied and answered other clarifying questions, then it would not surprise me that you have no idea what 'we' have been talking about here.

Look, you wanted 'some arguments' from me. I said I had already provided 'them'. you then wanted to know 'where' 'they' are. I then informed you that the ones that I had already provided here, before I provided further ones, were, also, in this thread, and if I recalled correctly would be on page 1 or page 2 of this thread, and obviously, before, you requested 'some arguments'.

Why were you presuming and believing that I had no idea what I was talking about, here?

If you, still, cannot find 'those ones', then maybe you will respond to the 'actual ones' that you requested me to provide.
What the fuck are you talking about? You try to do too much man, you should try you keep it more simple. You don't know enough English to ramble on about "those ones" and "actual ones" and have it make sense, it just sounds like you're putting random words together.

Keep it simple stupid. Talk about one thing.
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Re: A Return to the Topic of Consciousness

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Flannel Jesus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:12 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:30 am
Flannel Jesus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:57 am Everyone here speaks English better than you.
Okay, And, this is in relation to 'what', exactly?
To you trying to gaslight people about what you meant when you did the whole "this is a public forum" bit, obviously.
What do you mean by 'gaslighting'?

I was just reminding "atla" that it was writing in a public philosophy forum, where anyone can 'look at' and 'see' what it was saying, and was doing, here.

To me, 'you', people, can never look 'bad'. So, absolutely any 'idea' about the 'person' "atla" here 'looking bad', was 'some idea' not of mine at all.

Obviously, through 'the writings' of 'us', 'writers/posters', here, others can 'look at' and 'see' what 'it' is 'we' are saying, and what 'it' is 'we' are doing, here.
Flannel Jesus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:12 pm The fact that you couldn't tell that, even given that that was the only possible context of words, proves how little you understand English.
But, 'why' would you even start to assume and/or start to believe that 'that' was, supposedly the one and only possible context of words?
Flannel Jesus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:12 pm This forum is for English language discussions,
Okay.
Flannel Jesus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:12 pm you might be in the wrong place.
Why do you say this?
Flannel Jesus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:12 pm Try to find a forum for whatever language you speak.
Are you not yet aware what language it is that I am speaking, and/or writing, here?
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Re: A Return to the Topic of Consciousness

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Flannel Jesus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:25 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:22 pm
Flannel Jesus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:08 pm
I have no idea what you're talking about, and that makes sense because neither do you.
Well considering you did not answer and reply to my clarifying question about what 'it' is that you are talking about here, nor replied and answered other clarifying questions, then it would not surprise me that you have no idea what 'we' have been talking about here.

Look, you wanted 'some arguments' from me. I said I had already provided 'them'. you then wanted to know 'where' 'they' are. I then informed you that the ones that I had already provided here, before I provided further ones, were, also, in this thread, and if I recalled correctly would be on page 1 or page 2 of this thread, and obviously, before, you requested 'some arguments'.

Why were you presuming and believing that I had no idea what I was talking about, here?

If you, still, cannot find 'those ones', then maybe you will respond to the 'actual ones' that you requested me to provide.
What the fuck are you talking about? You try to do too much man, you should try you keep it more simple. You don't know enough English to ramble on about "those ones" and "actual ones" and have it make sense, it just sounds like you're putting random words together.

Keep it simple stupid. Talk about one thing.
So, 'what part' are you 'missing', 'misunderstanding', or just 'not understanding' at all here, this time, 'now'?

It was only a few posts of yours back you want me to show you where they were. So, I informed you of where they were. But, you seem to have lost or forgotten what they ever were, which it was that you wanted.
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Re: A Return to the Topic of Consciousness

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Age wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:34 pm
Are you not yet aware what language it is that I am speaking, and/or writing, here?
It appears at a surface level like English, but it's something else entirely
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Re: A Return to the Topic of Consciousness

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Flannel Jesus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:39 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:34 pm
Are you not yet aware what language it is that I am speaking, and/or writing, here?
It appears at a surface level like English, but it's something else entirely
Okay.

But, you are managing, somewhat, to keep communicating with this 'something else entirely', language, correct?
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Re: A Return to the Topic of Consciousness

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Age wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:44 pm
Flannel Jesus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:39 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:34 pm
Are you not yet aware what language it is that I am speaking, and/or writing, here?
It appears at a surface level like English, but it's something else entirely
Okay.

But, you are managing, somewhat, to keep communicating with this 'something else entirely', language, correct?
No, I am not. You spend so much time talking about talking and so little time saying actually interesting things or expressing ideas or arguing for your ideas. I wouldn't call this communication, I would call this... a waste of everyone's attention.
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Re: A Return to the Topic of Consciousness

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Flannel Jesus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:56 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:44 pm
Flannel Jesus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:39 pm

It appears at a surface level like English, but it's something else entirely
Okay.

But, you are managing, somewhat, to keep communicating with this 'something else entirely', language, correct?
No, I am not.
Yet, here you are, once again, responding to what you refer to and call, 'something else entirely language'.

So, you claim that you are not managing, somewhat, to keep communicating to 'my language' by, laughingly, responding/communicating to 'my language', to tell me that you are not managing to keep communicating, to 'my language'.

The hypocrisy and contradictory nature is absolutely blinding.
Flannel Jesus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:56 pm You spend so much time talking about talking and so little time saying actually interesting things or expressing ideas or arguing for your ideas.
And, you keep missing the very arguments I make, which it was you who wanted me to make.
Flannel Jesus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:56 pm I wouldn't call this communication, I would call this... a waste of everyone's attention.
Do you, really, believe that every one is giving 'this' attention?
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Re: A Return to the Topic of Consciousness

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Flannel Jesus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:39 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:34 pm
Are you not yet aware what language it is that I am speaking, and/or writing, here?
It appears at a surface level like English, but it's something else entirely
However, lol, look out if you get a little creative with language. He chided me for potentially confusing people once with the way I theoretically broke grammatical rules. (I know, I know)
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Re: A Return to the Topic of Consciousness

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Iwannaplato wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:24 pm
Flannel Jesus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:39 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:34 pm
Are you not yet aware what language it is that I am speaking, and/or writing, here?
It appears at a surface level like English, but it's something else entirely
However, lol, look out if you get a little creative with language. He chided me for potentially confusing people once with the way I theoretically broke grammatical rules. (I know, I know)
The Falsities continue.
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Re: A Return to the Topic of Consciousness

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Age wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:27 pm
Iwannaplato wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:24 pm
Flannel Jesus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:39 pm

It appears at a surface level like English, but it's something else entirely
However, lol, look out if you get a little creative with language. He chided me for potentially confusing people once with the way I theoretically broke grammatical rules. (I know, I know)
The Falsities continue.
Yes, you keep posting
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Re: A Return to the Topic of Consciousness

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Flannel Jesus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:47 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:27 pm
Iwannaplato wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:24 pm However, lol, look out if you get a little creative with language. He chided me for potentially confusing people once with the way I theoretically broke grammatical rules. (I know, I know)
The Falsities continue.
Yes, you keep posting
So, what we have here is more accusations, assertions, or claims, which I am criticized for, supposedly, not justifying. Yet, from the "accusers" they apparently do not have justify what they say or claim here.

LOL When I am asked to provide 'some arguments', I do this. But, they appear to get missed by some, or just completely ignored, which the accusations that I do not provide arguments or justifications for my claims or assertions' continue.
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Re: A Return to the Topic of Consciousness

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Age wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:24 pm
Flannel Jesus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:47 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:27 pm

The Falsities continue.
Yes, you keep posting
So, what we have here is more accusations, assertions, or claims, which I am criticized for, supposedly, not justifying. Yet, from the "accusers" they apparently do not have justify what they say or claim here.

LOL When I am asked to provide 'some arguments', I do this. But, they appear to get missed by some, or just completely ignored, which the accusations that I do not provide arguments or justifications for my claims or assertions' continue.
Then I guess it's time for you to learn how to use hyperlinks if you want people to see specific posts... Get with technology grampa.
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Re: A Return to the Topic of Consciousness

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Flannel Jesus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:30 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:24 pm
Flannel Jesus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:47 pm

Yes, you keep posting
So, what we have here is more accusations, assertions, or claims, which I am criticized for, supposedly, not justifying. Yet, from the "accusers" they apparently do not have justify what they say or claim here.

LOL When I am asked to provide 'some arguments', I do this. But, they appear to get missed by some, or just completely ignored, which the accusations that I do not provide arguments or justifications for my claims or assertions' continue.
Then I guess it's time for you to learn how to use hyperlinks if you want people to see specific posts... Get with technology grampa.
LOL They are in this very thread, as I have told you on numerous occasions, already. But, you appear to be completely blind to 'seeing' them.

Also, I do not care if anyone 'sees' my posts, or not, I have just been pointing out that even when I directly provide what you have asked me here for, you, still, somehow manage to 'miss' them, and then, what is Truly hilarious, you, still, go and accuse me of not providing the very thing you asked me for.
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Re: A Return to the Topic of Consciousness

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Age wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:35 pm
Flannel Jesus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:30 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:24 pm

So, what we have here is more accusations, assertions, or claims, which I am criticized for, supposedly, not justifying. Yet, from the "accusers" they apparently do not have justify what they say or claim here.

LOL When I am asked to provide 'some arguments', I do this. But, they appear to get missed by some, or just completely ignored, which the accusations that I do not provide arguments or justifications for my claims or assertions' continue.
Then I guess it's time for you to learn how to use hyperlinks if you want people to see specific posts... Get with technology grampa.
LOL They are in this very thread, as I have told you on numerous occasions, already. But, you appear to be completely blind to 'seeing' them.

Also, I do not care if anyone 'sees' my posts, or not, I have just been pointing out that even when I directly provide what you have asked me here for, you, still, somehow manage to 'miss' them, and then, what is Truly hilarious, you, still, go and accuse me of not providing the very thing you asked me for.
Nope, not what happened, there aren't hyperlinks from you already in this thread.
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