Sex and the Religious-Left

[seeds]

When I was a child, little did I realize that the Superman comics I used to read back then -- the ones that featured "Bizarro World" -- were actually giving me a prescient glimpse into the future.

Indeed, in what has actually become a real Bizarro World, if it serves the purpose of facilitating the goal of reshaping our society into some vague and ill-defined greater vision of what it should be, then, by all means, AJ,..

You write in rhetorical terms that are not very useful.

Well, useful or not, I think I made it quite clear in the portion of my response you ignored, how wrong it is to reward awful humans for their awful behavior.

Furthermore, you write in terms that clearly display the presence of an extremely intelligent owner of a beautiful mind who, unfortunately, is "unwittingly" afflicted...

(with the term "unwittingly" being the insidious hallmark of the affliction)

...by the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

However, I do myself sometimes feel as you do. When things go sour, they really do go sour, and then all sorts of consequences loom.

The actual conversation to be had is about what happened, how it happened, and a great deal else related to that. Yet is is next to impossible to have that conversation with people who seem only, or largely, to be fighting partisan battles. It is so tiresome.

Actually, at least in terms of this particular thread, the conversation that I am most interested in, revolves around the question of why you think despicable and unethical people should be rewarded for their behavior.

And, again, regardless of the alleged intent underlying your support for one such person...

(and, yes, the giant watermark T is clearly visible beneath your script)

...that's exactly what you are doing.

Indeed, you are rewarding an utterly loathsome person by voluntarily contributing to the means by which said person can acquire the power he so desperately craves.

And he craves this power (and glory and adoration), not just for the sake of satiating his enormous ̶k̶e̶i̶s̶t̶e̶r̶ ego,...

...but (if re-elected) as a means of manipulating the levers (and compliant fools) that will allow him to escape accountability for his innumerable dirty deeds.

And lastly, even though I'm pretty sure I understand why this is all taking place, I nevertheless still find it fascinating (though depressing) to watch someone as seemingly intelligent as you, to be so completely under the thrall of an obvious (yet powerful) delusion.

Come on now, ol' buddy, I'm just trying to get you to "level up" (as they say in gamer-speak) in an effort to help you escape the oppressive confines (and opaque outer film) of that ideological bubble you are trapped within.
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[Dubious]

But with your brainless, ill-informed quips you do nothing for your argument,

So am I to take it that you don't give much weight to my opinion?

Once again your idiotic ironies. No, Harbal. Your opinion carries little weight. It is just noise.

An opinion, any opinion, has no particular value unless it is rationally, accurately and carefully explained. Your opinions are based in totally superficial views.

...and clearly Stew Peters, successor to Alex Jones, explained it very well. Seriously, is what he says equal to what you accept?

[Alexis Jacobi]

Actually, at least in terms of this particular thread, the conversation that I am most interested in, revolves around the question of why you think despicable and unethical people should be rewarded for their behavior.

It’s a badly constructed and a bit devious of a question. I see all sorts of despicable activities and people who seem so, and many things that seem unethical. Yet the reason I support Trump (and will vote for him) is not because I reward his ethical defects, but is because he initiated a movement and inspired people I respect who develop and express critical positions. I am interested in Trump as a chaos-agent.

Indeed, you are rewarding an utterly loathsome person by voluntarily contributing to the means by which said person can acquire the power he so desperately craves.

All political people, and many others, crave and seek positions of power. Trump manifests himself honestly — I think more honestly than most. And •utterly loathsome• is a typical usage of the Trump Deranged.

I will support Trump because I also support a wider movement of people who have been aroused to activity in many areas I admire and value.

The Democrat establishment — the alternative — inspires in me far more contempt.

...but (if re-elected) as a means of manipulating the levers (and compliant fools) that will allow him to escape accountability for his innumerable dirty deeds.

If you mean the •lawfare• I think all of it is bogus.

[Alexis Jacobi]

...and clearly Stew Peters, successor to Alex Jones, explained it very well.

The point was to illustrate the fact that there is a developing rage that has to do with tremendous opposition to what influential people, and institutions, are doing to children.

Another point is the fact that the Culture Wars seem to be an •octave• of issues, conflicts and concerns that extend out of the Weimar era. Hyper-liberalism goes to extremes … and elicits reaction.

It is unfortunate that reaction can be irrational. Also, that people seek to interpret their world. And use what they have at hand.

Do you pay a great deal of attention to what is going on culture-wide?

[Dubious]

Trump manifests himself honestly — I think more honestly than most.

...and therein lies the problem. What you see is what you'll get, only much more of it if he becomes president. You have no idea how many are going to regret their vote as one of the worst mistakes ever made in their lives. Are you so fucking ready to write-off Europe, the main source of America's white population, by inviting an equivalent shit-faced liar like Putin to invade it? What is your definition of treason at the highest level?

You're clearly a function of everything you read without any of the mental immunities required to resist any potential infection. That's long been known.

Trump as "chaos agent"! To think that such a near illiterate, anti-charismatic piece of lying shit could be a chaos agent in the Jungian sense of being a major transformer of any civilization tells one a lot of the grossly pathetic state of America's mentality which includes all of its bogus intellectual mutations...you being only one of its more literate members in its manifestation.

[Dubious]

...and clearly Stew Peters, successor to Alex Jones, explained it very well.

The point was to illustrate the fact that there is a developing rage that has to do with tremendous opposition to what influential people, and institutions, are doing to children.

Another point is the fact that the Culture Wars seem to be an •octave• of issues, conflicts and concerns that extend out of the Weimar era. Hyper-liberalism goes to extremes … and elicits reaction.

It is unfortunate that reaction can be irrational. Also, that people seek to interpret their world. And use what they have at hand.

Do you pay a great deal of attention to what is going on culture-wide?

...except most of what this jerk-head had to say of the Weimar Republic is decidedly wrong or at the very least grossly overstated, or that Hitler was the prime agent in the Parsifal-like purification of all that wickedness!

[Alexis Jacobi]

Check your brain chemistry, Dubious. It seems some enzymes or heaven knows what have sloshed together in unfavorable combination. Maybe shake your head in a rapid motion? Don’t let it congeal!

I am no physiologist of emotional states, and you are such an odd case anyway, but though I have no insight into what might help I wonder if standing on your head might?! I mean in those moments when the Ultra-Grouch chemical complex gets the better of you.

What music are you listening to? I see you pacing the floor boards like Old Ahab …. change the CD bro!

Oh dear …. I have a feeling this’ll get worse before it gets better!

[Alexis Jacobi]

...except most of what this jerk-head had to say of the Weimar Republic is decidedly wrong or at the very least grossly overstated, or that Hitler was the prime agent in the Parsifal-like purification of all that wickedness!

I wrote:

The point was to illustrate the fact that there is a developing rage that has to do with tremendous opposition to what influential people, and institutions, are doing to children.

Another point is the fact that the Culture Wars seem to be an •octave• of issues, conflicts and concerns that extend out of the Weimar era. Hyper-liberalism goes to extremes … and elicits reaction.

It is unfortunate that reaction can be irrational. Also, that people seek to interpret their world. And use what they have at hand.

Sit down Dubious. Drink some soothing tea. Open a window. Breathe!

[Harbal]

I have no insight into what might help I wonder if standing on your head might?!

I would advise against that, you might hurt him.

[Alexis Jacobi]

Trump as "chaos agent"! To think that such a near illiterate, anti-charismatic piece of lying shit could be a chaos agent in the Jungian sense of being a major transformer of any civilization tells one a lot of the grossly pathetic state of America's mentality which includes all of its bogus intellectual mutations...you being only one of its more literate members in its manifestation.

I’d sort of like to comment on this. However I am worried about your mental state. Jung was big on astrology. The moon — Ah this could have bearing! The moon is in Cancer an emotional super-sensitive water sign. Let’s wait a bit. You need an earth sign to ground yourself.

Honestly, I envision you in a castle with gloom, fog even bats'n shit!

What is your definition of treason at the highest level?

Those who sign up for The 10 Week Email Course, get a few of the valuable extra bonuses, and then don't complete the payment!

You're clearly a function of everything you read without any of the mental immunities required to resist any potential infection. That's long been known.

Hmmmmm. Let me Goose Step on this for awhile!

[Dubious]

Check your brain chemistry, Dubious. It seems some enzymes or heaven knows what have sloshed together in unfavorable combination. Maybe shake your head in a rapid motion? Don’t let it congeal!

I am no physiologist of emotional states, and you are such an odd case anyway, but though I have no insight into what might help I wonder if standing on your head might?! I mean in those moments when the Ultra-Grouch chemical complex gets the better of you.

What music are you listening to? I see you pacing the floor boards like Old Ahab …. change the CD bro!

Oh dear …. I have a feeling this’ll get worse before it gets better!

If it weren't for snot you wouldn't have a brain. Only an imbecile and all such intellectual copycats like your eminent self would vote for someone who seeks to emulate his heroes back east. To think that a half illiterate miserable toad like Trump, anti-charismatic in the extreme, could be enabled by a plethora of equally loathsome fuckheads like you can really bring a country down.

[Alexis Jacobi]

Your dire challenge will be met, oh I assure you of that! These outrages directed against the very fluids of my mind will be addressed and satisfaction attained! My Muse labors and has not delivered yet! Give me some time, in the name of chivalry!

[Dubious]

Trump as "chaos agent"! To think that such a near illiterate, anti-charismatic piece of lying shit could be a chaos agent in the Jungian sense of being a major transformer of any civilization tells one a lot of the grossly pathetic state of America's mentality which includes all of its bogus intellectual mutations...you being only one of its more literate members in its manifestation.

I’d sort of like to comment on this. However I am worried about your mental state. Jung was big on astrology. The moon — Ah this could have bearing! The moon is in Cancer an emotional super-sensitive water sign. Let’s wait a bit. You need an earth sign to ground yourself.

Honestly, I envision you in a castle with gloom, fog even bats'n shit!

What is your definition of treason at the highest level?

Those who sign up for The 10 Week Email Course, get a few of the valuable extra bonuses, and then don't complete the payment!

You're clearly a function of everything you read without any of the mental immunities required to resist any potential infection. That's long been known.

Hmmmmm. Let me Goose Step on this for awhile!

Jung was half genius and half charlatan. One must be careful in reading him which is impossible for the brainless types who only read but never think. An analogy would be a highly underpowered computer with barely a processing center but a lot of memory.

Try not to kick yourself in the head when goose stepping. Practice makes perfect but in your case can also cause a lot of damage as already seems apparent.

[Atla]

As long as Trump is at the helm, there won't be substantial change at the level of the Deep State either. There will be a little change, but not enough. Overall things will get worse and more chaotic, both in the US and internationally.

I'm not even sure that if Trump had a firm grasp of the Deep State, he wouldn't try to become its mafia boss instead of opposing it. Mayber he'd find it an amazing invention.

I guess you guys need to reinvent MAGA without Trump. It should be for all who want genuine change, both on the left and the right.

[Dubious]

I have no insight into what might help I wonder if standing on your head might?!

I would advise against that, you might hurt him.

I'll leave upside down thinking to others; I, personally, don't feel qualified though, as here exemplified, others be eminently gifted in that capacity.