Sex and the Religious-Left

[promethean75]

"Hunter Biden would like to have a word with you"

I don't smoke the spice melange with other people becuz i bug out. Too intense. I can't handle people. I have a hard enough time with all the shadow demons coming out of the walls.

The quickening should be experienced alone, and a Slider like me might be dangerous to be around, anyway. I might accidentally jam his brain circuitry and give him a seizure or sumthin.

Powder, on the other hand, is okay. It's mellow enough to let u socialize.

[Gary Childress]

Wizard: Liberalism is based off of 'Liberation' from goals, objectives, ideals, except hedonism and pleasure-seeking.

Iwannaplato: Nah, that's false.

He is onto something but his broad statements will function better if narrowed somewhat.

Change “liberalism” to the hyper-liberalism or perverted liberalism of our present (this alone requires a conversation) and his assertion has sense in it.

How about being realistic instead? Is that an option?

[Alexis Jacobi]

Wizard: Liberalism is based off of 'Liberation' from goals, objectives, ideals, except hedonism and pleasure-seeking.

Iwannaplato: Nah, that's false.

He is onto something but his broad statements will function better if narrowed somewhat.

Change “liberalism” to the hyper-liberalism or perverted liberalism of our present (this alone requires a conversation) and his assertion has sense in it.

How about being realistic instead? Is that an option?

Talk about “the realistic”.

[Iwannaplato]

Why wouldn't conservatives, then, not want perverted people to have their genes fade away. Also those who fall for what you'd call propaganda.

Christian charity.

I'm sure there are conservatives who have Christian charity. But not Wizard regarding these people. Nah. And if you look at the way he frames his argument, it just doesn't fit, this charity for them.

He does feel sympathy for the Royals however. He can put himself in their shoes.

[Wizard22]

I believe that people are inherently tribalistic. Do I care whether Chinese, or East Indians, or Swedes, or Congolese, or Mayans get married and raise large, healthy families? No, and neither do you. Most people want these positive social boons for their own tribe and kin, not necessarily for others, or for the rest of Humanity.

Christianity is revolutionary because it is Universalist. A Christian has a Moral Duty to non-kindred, alien tribes, around the world. This is the ideology of Humanism. It is a moral imposition against everybody on the planet, hence Globalistic.

I do believe, that in order to be considered 'Human', you must base your morals and ethic, very strictly, into Christian Humanism.


Otherwise you're a hypocrite, as are most Liberal-Leftists, picking and choosing "the rules" when and where it suits them individually. Leftists in Western Civilization take most of their morals and ethics from Christianity, but do so selectively, and so pervert the religion, hence Perversion. This applies directly to Sexuality too.

[Gary Childress]

He is onto something but his broad statements will function better if narrowed somewhat.

Change “liberalism” to the hyper-liberalism or perverted liberalism of our present (this alone requires a conversation) and his assertion has sense in it.

How about being realistic instead? Is that an option?

Talk about “the realistic”.

Like Wizard, you seem to deal with people who consider themselves politically liberal in the form of caricature. And yet you somehow think it's real and true to paint human beings in such a shallow manner. Why is that?

[Wizard22]

Like Wizard, you seem to deal with people who consider themselves politically liberal in the form of caricature. And yet you somehow think it's real and true to paint human beings in such a shallow manner. Why is that?

Gary, you mentioned that you don't want to have kids, same with prom, I'm sure lots of Westerners are the same way...

However, are you completely selfish? Don't you want your siblings or cousins to have large families? Don't you feel connected to a tribe, a clan, an Ethnos?

Or, again like most Westerners, are you truly Alone? Isn't this another symptom of Liberal-Leftism, Individualism to the point of isolation and solitary confinement?

What's the point of being alone your entire life? I can't think of anything more selfish than that.

[Walker]

Like Wizard, you seem to deal with people who consider themselves politically liberal in the form of caricature. And yet you somehow think it's real and true to paint human beings in such a shallow manner. Why is that?

Who cares? What about the cultural focus on sex?

Sex is a powerful energy and it gets so wastefully dissipated via dualistic amusement and as you know, wanking. The way to understand sex is to understand the true meaning of Brahmacharya, which extends beyond the limitations of common-knowledge Western attitudes about the horizontal mombo. Brahmacharya is not limited to celebacy. Once you understand the meaning and purpose and practice of Brahmacharya as the harnessing and proper channeling of energy, then horizons expand past the need to be as they say you should be, Gary Childress. Then, energy to do as you must becomes like the movie gangster said about money. Your biggest worry will be where to spend all the energy, and once your house is tidy enough you may find yourself out the door and helping folks in the community or choir or soup line, or some such thing, given your solitary responsibilities.

Brahmacharaya is the boat and once you've crossed the river ... (I think that sentence just may not befuddle the Wizard)

[Gary Childress]

Like Wizard, you seem to deal with people who consider themselves politically liberal in the form of caricature. And yet you somehow think it's real and true to paint human beings in such a shallow manner. Why is that?

Gary, you mentioned that you don't want to have kids, same with prom, I'm sure lots of Westerners are the same way...

However, are you completely selfish? Don't you want your siblings or cousins to have large families? Don't you feel connected to a tribe, a clan, an Ethnos?

Or, again like most Westerners, are you truly Alone? Isn't this another symptom of Liberal-Leftism, Individualism to the point of isolation and solitary confinement?

What's the point of being alone your entire life? I can't think of anything more selfish than that.

How ironic. The tribalist accusing others of "selfishness."

[Walker]

How ironic. The tribalist accusing others of "selfishness."

- Are you really in the position to turn your nose up at other viewpoints?
- If so, you're not all the things you say you are.
- You're just ... haughty.
- That's a characteristic stereotypically associated with Brits, at least in olden times.

[Gary Childress]

How ironic. The tribalist accusing others of "selfishness."

- Are you really in the position to turn your nose up at other viewpoints?
- If so, you're not all the things you say you are.
- You're just ... haughty.
- That's a characteristic stereotypically associated with Brits, at least in olden times.

What do you care about "haughtiness"? If you're truly worried about "haughty," then go complain to your buddy AJ. He has enough for 20 of us.

[Sculptor]

How ironic. The tribalist accusing others of "selfishness."

- Are you really in the position to turn your nose up at other viewpoints?
- If so, you're not all the things you say you are.
- You're just ... haughty.
- That's a characteristic stereotypically associated with Brits, at least in olden times.

Whoops! DOn't let your haughty prejudice show.
It's not like you are not the queen of turning your own nose up at other people!

[Alexis Jacobi]

Sex is a powerful energy and it gets so wastefully dissipated via dualistic amusement and as you know, wanking. The way to understand sex is to understand the true meaning of Brahmacharya, which extends beyond the limitations of common-knowledge Western attitudes about the horizontal mombo. Brahmacharya is not limited to celebacy. Once you understand the meaning and purpose and practice of Brahmacharya as the harnessing and proper channeling of energy, then horizons expand past the need to be as they say you should be, Gary Childress. Then, energy to do as you must becomes like the movie gangster said about money. Your biggest worry will be where to spend all the energy, and once your house is tidy enough you may find yourself out the door and helping folks in the community or choir or soup line, or some such thing, given your solitary responsibilities.

Before I encountered Greco-Christian (Platonic) theory on sexual ethics, I was familiar with Vedic theory which is very complete and expansive. I many ways the Hindus do a better job of explaining the theory psycho-spiritually.

[Alexis Jacobi]

I'm sure there are conservatives who have Christian charity. But not Wizard regarding these people. Nah. And if you look at the way he frames his argument, it just doesn't fit, this charity for them.

My view is we have to separate ideas from those who hold the ideas so that the ideas can be considered independently.

However, and in contrast, I have myself critiqued Immanuel Can through accusations of personal defect, so I am not closed to a personalized analysis of people who hold the ideas. My reasoning is sound: we are •instruments• of perception and we are therefore susceptible to contamination. And we are also susceptible to purification.

In fact, it is fair and helpful to start from the view that we are essentially defective and require clarifying intelligence.

What that is and how we achieve it is, I think, the essence of what is often so contentiously debated — or bickered over — here.

[Gary Childress]

In fact, it is fair and helpful to start from the view that we are essentially defective and require clarifying intelligence.

Why do you see people as "defective" and in need of "clarifying intelligence"? I generally see people as capable of making their own decisions so long as they aren't being given misinformation. Most people seem pretty capable of figuring things out on their own through talking to others. I mean, I don't necessarily agree with everyone's veiws but such is life I suppose.